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Post by coachdawhip on Aug 4, 2009 8:59:58 GMT -6
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Post by phantom on Aug 4, 2009 9:19:52 GMT -6
When I read the article and saw that some coaches had X number of signees but only one or two were 1A I have to wonder if they're padding their stats by listing D.3 players among their scholarship numbers.
We'll do as much as we can to help a kid get a scholarship except:
A. Change our offensive or defensive scheme to "highlight" players or "prepare them for the
next level".
B. Allow that to determine what position a kid will play for us.
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Post by coachdawhip on Aug 4, 2009 9:54:30 GMT -6
phatnom,
they aren't we are a speed county. At the state track meet we had 10 kids from the county run 11.0 or less.
Coach Godfrey, has tons of people that come to his school every year and he for a while was a feeder system for schools like FAMU and Grambling. This year all 4 DB's are D-I, DE and RB are going to UGA. The DE is a freak 6'7, 230, 4.49, he manhandled my team by himself last year.
They also get the small schools, the ones that some coaches know nothing about, the D-II small ones, NAIA, and because they have historically produced talent they keep coming.
Plus, I think some schools who have produced good talent, small coaches go and seek those schools out.
I feel pretty good in saying that all 4 of my DB's will probably play college football, now, will we win state, as of now no. They have all the GOD given talent, but team work, etc... we must teach.
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Post by phantom on Aug 4, 2009 10:03:05 GMT -6
phatnom, they aren't we are a speed county. At the state track meet we had 10 kids from the county run 11.0 or less. Coach Godfrey, has tons of people that come to his school every year and he for a while was a feeder system for schools like FAMU and Grambling. This year all 4 DB's are D-I, DE and RB are going to UGA. The DE is a freak 6'7, 230, 4.49, he manhandled my team by himself last year. They also get the small schools, the ones that some coaches know nothing about, the D-II small ones, NAIA, and because they have historically produced talent they keep coming. Plus, I think some schools who have produced good talent, small coaches go and seek those schools out. I feel pretty good in saying that all 4 of my DB's will probably play college football, now, will we win state, as of now no. They have all the GOD given talent, but team work, etc... we must teach. OK. I don't know anything about him or the other coaches mentioned. We used to have a guy around here who was notorious for that. You'd read a headline about seven of his guys signing and four would be D.3. Nothing against D.3-it's an accomplishment playing college ball at any level- it just isn't accurate. |
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Post by wingtol on Aug 4, 2009 10:21:57 GMT -6
I think that as a coach it is your responsibility to get your players noticed by sending out the questionnaires, highlights, and so forth. In my opinion I think we kind of owe it to the kids to help them get noticed and get out anything the colleges request on a kid. We ask these players to do a lot for us so I think it's only fair that you promote them if they want to go play at the next level. I can't stand these coaches who take the "It's not my job" stance on the issue. Now granted we can't get a kid a scholarship but we should try and work to get them on the radar if they want to play in college. Once the kid is in contact with the college coaches then I think the HS coaches job is done.
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Post by CVBears on Aug 4, 2009 12:01:47 GMT -6
Personally, I feel that we have to do all that we can to get our boys in college. I really don't care what level of college it is or even if they play ball there or not. It can be a double edged sword... we want to promote as many boys as possible to wherever their talent can take them, but at the same time, we can't promote our 5'-1" FS to the SEC or we'll never get any recruiter to our campus for any player ever in the future.
-Meet with the frosh and soph to make sure they have the right classes
-Help point them in the right direction when they are struggling. Support them.
-Help Jrs figure out where they might want to go to college
-Help find them/point them in the right direction to find non-football scholarships for the ones that don't want to/can't play at the next level
-Send tape, contact coaches, etc. for players that want to play at the next level and at their appropriate talent level
-Help Srs and their families make the appropriate decisions on where to attend college
At the end of the day, I just think we need to do all that we can to help our boys succeed in life. Education can help them succeed and the overwhelming majority of them will never make it to the big time (whatever that means)
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Post by Coach JR on Aug 4, 2009 12:12:02 GMT -6
If you're the kind of coach that thinks your first job is to mentor and help the kids succeed in life...teach them life skills, and help them graduate...I think part of that shlould be to help them all you can to get a scholarship to play football if you really think he has the ability. Its' just another way of helping a kid in life. I think it's also a coaches job to temper overly zealous expectations in a kid, and keep him grounded and with realistic expectations. I also agree with what phantom said...don't change what you do to suit this one player, or let him dictate what position he'll play if he can help you more at another position. If he's a D-1 type player...playing a position other than the one he's suited for at the next level...he'll be found.
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Post by binny on Aug 4, 2009 14:19:27 GMT -6
I am in the A group, but this has been tested. Like everyone else, we sometimes get kids who have the talent (D2 usually) but not the mental ability to succeed in college. I'm not going to BS a coach and tell him anything to try to seal the deal, but if the kid can handle it I will do everything that I can for him.
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Post by airraider on Aug 4, 2009 15:22:24 GMT -6
Im going to get as many as I can into college.. they may not be playing football.. but they will be in college..
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Post by phantom on Aug 4, 2009 15:27:48 GMT -6
I am in the A group, but this has been tested. Like everyone else, we sometimes get kids who have the talent (D2 usually) but not the mental ability to succeed in college. I'm not going to BS a coach and tell him anything to try to seal the deal, but if the kid can handle it I will do everything that I can for him. I do want to say that although we work hard to get the guys into school we do believe that we have to be honest with recruiters. That's only being fair to players who may need help in the future. |
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Post by coachbdud on Aug 4, 2009 20:15:11 GMT -6
it is the coaches job to do everything he can to help his kids move on to college. And to be honest i think the more kids you get out the more talented kids will come out
A local coach build an empire at his old school. This was before CA had state games but they easily could have played in them, they were loaded with D-1 kids. He wasnt a good coach but a hell of a recruiter, and he still is. His name is big enough now where all the talented kids wanna go to him because they know he will get them out. He gets like 5 kids a year out on schollys.
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Post by teachcoachwm on Aug 4, 2009 21:55:48 GMT -6
I heard a coach put it this way at a clinic to a roomful of HS coaches.....If you're gonna count the wins that these players helped you get on your personal record, then you better be willing to go the extra mile to get them in school
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