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Post by utchuckd on Jul 23, 2009 20:22:11 GMT -6
Looking thru the league rule book tonite it says the field is split into five 20 yard zones where the lines are painted, and each time you pass a line its a first down. This is how we did it in intramural flag football. You could have first and 1 or first and 19! Anybody else have a league that does it like that? I've never heard of an organized tackle football game where a first down isn't 10 yards.
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Post by los on Jul 23, 2009 20:31:17 GMT -6
Nope.....bout the only thing different we ever saw(besides a regulation field and 10 yds for a first down) was when we played on 80yd by 40 yd fields = they had 8 yds for a first down......course this was in a football tournament playing some really good teams and that 8 yds was tough to get at times, lol.....can't imagine having to get 20 yds for a first down......thats wild!
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Post by coachriley on Jul 23, 2009 21:14:16 GMT -6
Wow, I cant imagine having to go that far on first down. I wonder if any teams are run heavy or if everyone throws it around to try and get those yards.
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Post by bobgoodman on Jul 23, 2009 22:13:04 GMT -6
Looking thru the league rule book tonite it says the field is split into five 20 yard zones where the lines are painted, and each time you pass a line its a first down. This is how we did it in intramural flag football. You could have first and 1 or first and 19! Anybody else have a league that does it like that? I've never heard of an organized tackle football game where a first down isn't 10 yards. Maybe yours is like that because they have trouble getting people to hold the sticks. Plus they don't need to paint as many lines, which some find trouble getting people with time to do it. |
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Post by bobgoodman on Jul 23, 2009 22:20:30 GMT -6
can't imagine having to get 20 yds for a first down......thats wild! The average distance teams would need to get would be 10 yards. However, a 3-yds.-&-cloud-of-dust team would have trouble, because usually when they got a 1st down, it wouldn't be by much, and that would leave them a long way from the next stripe. Consider the 1st & short situations that would frequently come up. You might not even want a short gain, because that would leave you with 1st & long. So you'd probably gamble a lot in those situations. |
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Post by utchuckd on Jul 23, 2009 22:59:04 GMT -6
Maybe yours is like that because they have trouble getting people to hold the sticks. Plus they don't need to paint as many lines, which some find trouble getting people with time to do it. The home team is supposed to be responsible for a chain gang and they get penalized if there's not one in place so I can't see that being the rationale behind it. I'm stumped, equipment handout is tomorrow nite so we're gonna ask about it and see what's up. |
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Post by coachbdud on Jul 23, 2009 23:19:11 GMT -6
never heard of that, played a HS football game on the worst field in northern CA. This horrible field in oakland. First off the field has 2 goal lines painted on it on one endzone, i still dont know which one was the actual goal line and which was the mistake, luckily it never came down to a close call. Our Jvs played the second half of their game only going one way on the field because they guy who was supposed to paint it showed up at halftime of their game, so they finished the game on one half so he could get the other half started. The field was about 45 yards wide at most(hurt us some being a fly team)
and one corner of the field was in a visible incline. the last 10 yards were in one corner were much steeper than should ever be on a football field
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Post by bigshel on Jul 23, 2009 23:45:08 GMT -6
never heard of that, played a HS football game on the worst field in northern CA. This horrible field in oakland. First off the field has 2 goal lines painted on it on one endzone, i still dont know which one was the actual goal line and which was the mistake, luckily it never came down to a close call. Our Jvs played the second half of their game only going one way on the field because they guy who was supposed to paint it showed up at halftime of their game, so they finished the game on one half so he could get the other half started. The field was about 45 yards wide at most(hurt us some being a fly team) and one corner of the field was in a visible incline. the last 10 yards were in one corner were much steeper than should ever be on a football field LOL!! You must be talking about Curt Flood Field. I don't know about it being the worst field in NCAL, but definitely the worst in Alameda County!! |
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Post by coachbdud on Jul 23, 2009 23:59:33 GMT -6
LMAO!!
yep you got it haha
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Post by spartancoach on Jul 24, 2009 7:33:27 GMT -6
Funny. Coached pop warner a few years back. We have a field in southern NJ that has a noticeable slope from one end zone to the other. Rather than chose an end to defend, the captains would simply tell the refs that we wanted to go "downhill."
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Post by bobgoodman on Jul 24, 2009 9:06:48 GMT -6
The home team is supposed to be responsible for a chain gang and they get penalized if there's not one in place so I can't see that being the rationale behind it. That's like saying the rules of polo require horses, so there should be no trouble supplying them. Or like asking why there should be 6-man football when the rules allow 11s. |
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Post by utchuckd on Jul 24, 2009 9:31:34 GMT -6
It's not like that at all. If it's about not having a chain gang then just mark the 20 yard zones and don't require one. Don't have 2 sets of rules.
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Post by bobgoodman on Jul 24, 2009 17:31:49 GMT -6
It's not like that at all. If it's about not having a chain gang then just mark the 20 yard zones and don't require one. Don't have 2 sets of rules. Sorr I misunderstood. You're saying their rules now require the presence of a chain crew who will be of no use during the game? That's way, way flocked! |
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Post by coachdoug on Jul 24, 2009 18:26:40 GMT -6
It's not they are of no use, Bob. Our flag program uses the same basic rule (i.e. 20 yard zones with a first down anytime you move from one zone to the next), and we utilize chain crews for those games also. The box is used to mark the current LOS and performs exactly the same function as in a regular game. One end of the chains is used to mark the line to gain - since we play on regular fields with every 5 yard line marked this visual cue is helpful. The only useless member of the chain crew is the guy on the back end of the chains, but I'm pretty sure they try to get three guys so that the one guy doesn't have to lug around the entire set of chains by himself (I'm pretty sure the other guy just lays his end down on the ground after the line to gain has been marked, but I'm not sure - I haven't gone to a flag game in a while).
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Post by utchuckd on Jul 24, 2009 18:57:03 GMT -6
Got clarification tonite, it's regular 1st and 10 for a first down. Pardon the interruption.  |
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