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Post by rcole on Jul 8, 2009 18:08:14 GMT -6
I was just waxing nostalgic about the old standard bearers from the mid nineties and late nineties that were the early football coaching internet sites. I think the first one I ran across was "Toby's"  with a ton of links to other pages. There was: BC Warrior - great site at the time. Multiple7manfront Sandman's 4-3 defense (one of my favorites, great site until he stole the Miami playbook right off of a coaches desk) The Zone Coach Rice's nickle and dime defense site (all of the info that he shared did not stop me from buying his books, it actually caused me to buy them) Coach Shakelfords Special Teams Some of them are still around. What were some of the other old favorites of the early days? For the coaches that were internet savvy yet old enough to remember a time when sites like this were not around, when did you realize the potential of what the internet could mean to coaches and our professional development? |
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Post by coachcathey on Jul 8, 2009 20:12:04 GMT -6
Yeah Toby's and BCWarrior, The Zone and letstalkdefense and optioncentral were the ones I remember.
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Post by outlawjoseywales on Jul 8, 2009 20:18:49 GMT -6
I realized it when the "playbook craze" hit. I downloaded for weeks, had dial-up too.
That was before I found this website too.
That's a crazy story about Sandman, is that true?
I also bought Coach Rice's book and printed out pages off his website. It didn't stop me from buying the book at all.
That is a book every coach in America should have.
The Internet and this website would have totally changed our world when I started coaching in the 70's.
We were amazed at the handful of books we could get from Parker Publishing.
They had a fire-sale in the early 1980's and I bought boxes of books for $1 each, just amazing.
Wish I would have come here the first day I got an email about it, but sadly, I didn't.
OJW
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Post by phantom on Jul 8, 2009 20:24:55 GMT -6
Letsalkdefense is still around.
I think the first coaching site I found was D Maly's. Homer Smith's also came around fairly early, I think. The potential was obvious immediately but finding sites was hard. I can remember doing a search for football coaching sites back in the bad old pre-Google days and the search might turn up one site.
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Post by hawke on Jul 8, 2009 20:51:39 GMT -6
Go to www.vanislehighschoolfootball.com/COACHING%20RESOURCES%20INTRA%20LINK.htm#OFFENSE and you will find many resources and links. Some are gone but many are still there. I was with Toby's way back in the middle 90s and name many of the guys that were on that site from whom I learned an awful lot of football. I'm always curious as to what happened to most of them. Toby's was the forerunner for football coaching sites. As I recall he was from LA and the coaches on his site were from all over such as AirRaid from Reynoldsburg, Oh. I could go on and on. Huey's site has picked up where Toby's left off and incorporated more than just chat. As most know, I'm very old school and still like to talk the "old" stuff but I'm learning from all the younguns'. 46 yrs coaching this game has not made me an expert. I'm still learning but more importantly, I'm having fun. Hawke |
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Post by moball on Jul 8, 2009 20:59:07 GMT -6
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Post by max51 on Jul 8, 2009 21:21:00 GMT -6
"There was:
BC Warrior - great site at the time.
Multiple7manfront
Sandman's 4-3 defense (one of my favorites, great site until he stole the Miami playbook right off of a coaches desk)
The Zone
Coach Rice's nickle and dime defense site (all of the info that he shared did not stop me from buying his books, it actually caused me to buy them)
Coach Shakelfords Special Teams"
We could have been on the same site at the same time... the BC pages were AWESOME...
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Post by rcole on Jul 8, 2009 21:41:11 GMT -6
I can't believe I forgot about letstalkdefense.com.
That was the first site where I actually downloaded e-files. Man that first month that I started downloading from there and then here, I felt like I was stealing gold from the FED.
I have several huge three ring binders from the 90's and early 2000's of web site print outs. Honestly I owe a lot of my career to learning things very very quickly and largely from web based resources. Every time I have had a chance to move to a different position, or the two times I have become a new coordinator (on each side of the ball) I learned about a 5 years worth of stuff in three months. Could not have done it so fast in the old days. Man the first time I became a D coordinator I WAS NOT READY! But before the first day of practice I was ready. Could not have done it without some of those old sites and some great books I purchased, largely off of tips from those sites.
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Post by coachguy83 on Jul 8, 2009 21:57:43 GMT -6
I spent a lot of time on BC Warrior circa 2001. I was in college the first time around and was several years away from coaching but I loved reading the stuff. I fell in love with the spread option because of that site. To bad I have yet to have a chance to really run it.
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Post by kboyd on Jul 9, 2009 4:00:23 GMT -6
Toby's website was great and got me excited about the potential - and showed me how much I needed to learn.
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Post by coachjd on Jul 9, 2009 4:42:18 GMT -6
chatting on Toby's back in the late 90's was a great resource and tool.
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Post by touchdownmaker on Jul 9, 2009 5:33:55 GMT -6
eteamz
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Post by coachcathey on Jul 9, 2009 6:41:50 GMT -6
Letstalkdefense.com is still around, I just don't visit it to much.
I need to go to my parents and get my boxes of 3 ring binders of playbooks. When I moved I put them in storage there, I don't even know what is there. Maybe should put them in PDF if they are not already.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Jul 9, 2009 7:25:30 GMT -6
Letstalkdefense was great! I think that's the site that linked me to coachhuey.com ~ that or the BC Warrior site.
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Post by wingt74 on Jul 9, 2009 8:05:29 GMT -6
yeah, eteamz vet here too. Man, that message board was terrible compared to Huey, but, was better than nothing. |
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Post by 44dlcoach on Jul 11, 2009 1:47:32 GMT -6
I was on the Campbell forum before I came over here. I hesitate to say this in my outside voice but I learned of this site reading an article about the A-11 mentioning all the controversy it was causing in the coaching community. So see, something good did come of that thing, it got me here where I learned a ton!
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Post by sneakyben on Jul 11, 2009 2:26:14 GMT -6
I think I remember reading posts from DCOhio on the Toby Board ;D
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The delphi D-winger board has been around for a very long time to, it taught me my approach to football (series-based, limited plays and formations to maximise reps and how to approach a situation with limited talent)
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Post by tcm57 on Jul 11, 2009 7:56:16 GMT -6
Dial-up, "those were the days". HA ... how about "Football Faxuals".
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2009 8:37:09 GMT -6
I remember footballcoachingsites. Delphi forums, Derek Wade's footballforyouth, letstalkdefense. Homer Smith used to have a pretty good forum on his site, where he would answer questions himself.
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Post by tog on Jul 11, 2009 23:39:53 GMT -6
huey and quite a few of the moderators were on most of these at times---at least reading them
seeing what worked
seeing what didn't work
when huey and I started this site we had many conversations about the structure and how it would be set up and run
some may not always like it, but the wealth of info and conversation here speak for themselves
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Post by mariner42 on Jul 12, 2009 0:53:34 GMT -6
I remember lurking at eteamz when I was like, 15 and just wanted to know everything I could about football. I recall DCOhio posting there, and to his credit, he seems to be running the exact same scheme all these years later. That's a man that does what he does.
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Post by raiderpirates on Jul 18, 2009 22:19:26 GMT -6
Homer Smith and Huey I think were found for me from reading smartfootball.com, Chris always links to good stuff from there. Some other names mentioned on sites I recall others talking about.
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Post by bucksweepdotcom on Jul 19, 2009 5:13:19 GMT -6
I started "The Unofficial Delaware Wing-T Web Page" (Now Bucksweep.com) in 1997 with Toby's help. I bought a book "Using AOL to create Webpages" and I was off. Bucksweep took off in the Spring of 1997 where I spent my entire Easter Break waking up at 5am and going all day typing in by hand all the HTML code no FrontPAge then and it was a pain. There were a few coach centered websites in the late 90's but Toby in my opinion was the father of internet football coaching resources. He helped me start my website. At the time I started my site there might have been 3 or 4 coaching sites on the web in various forms. I always prided bucksweep.com to be one of the Founding Fathers of Coaching Resources on the Web.
Bucksweep.com since 1997 The Orginial Wing-T Web Page!
(sorry for the shameless plug!)
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Post by coachdawhip on Jul 19, 2009 8:03:03 GMT -6
bucksweep.com is still great.
I think the multiple7manfront website changed my life.
One thing I loved about Toby's site that we should bring here is Toby's Favorite play where everyone draws up there 1 one play, that was almost or Huey's favorite blitz.
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Post by bruceeien on Jul 19, 2009 9:42:58 GMT -6
I got my start on Toby's site and made the BC Warrior about 6 months later. I was a young unmarried coach and had plenty of time to draw. Mike Roark of letstalkdefense.com is a close friend and he always tried to get me to make the site letstalkoffense.com.
I moved the BC Warrior to coachingstaff.com and one day the site disapeared and I lost everything on there. Teach me to back up but if you remember back in the day it seemed your HD crashed all the time. I have pieced some of it back together but never have the time to remake the orginal site.
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Post by outlawjoseywales on Jul 19, 2009 14:16:14 GMT -6
Coach Eien, thanks for so much over the years. Your "Chuck and Duck" site is still a great resource for the various famous passing games. bruceeien.com/ |
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Post by rcole on Jul 19, 2009 15:32:16 GMT -6
What about Toby and Roark or "Sandman" or others? Are any of them on the board on a regular basis?
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Post by rlhair on Jul 19, 2009 15:46:02 GMT -6
There were also a couple of good Run and Shoot website. In my old age I have forgotten their names.
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Post by go42 on Jul 19, 2009 20:40:53 GMT -6
Does anyone remember a site called Turfwars? I remember it being up and running only for a short time, but it had a lot of great stuff.
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with a ton of links to other pages.
