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Post by Tooch43 on Jun 21, 2009 12:48:48 GMT -6
Anyone have an inexpensive idea for a harness for tire pulls. I just don't want to shell out $40-200? Also, do you think a waist harness is better than a shoulder harness? How long should the rope to the tire be?
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Jun 21, 2009 12:52:09 GMT -6
I use a leather weight-lifting belt, turned backward (so that the wider part is across your waist), and a caribino clip attached to the rope.
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Post by trojan on Jun 21, 2009 13:16:41 GMT -6
This video can give you some ideas. The guys are supposed to be doing "high knees" in the clip. It is a waist harness with an adjustable belt. Little plastic clips. The rope is yellow nylon (color doesn't matter, just letting you know). There is a chain at the end of the rope that goes through the tire. The chain is attached to the tire at two points. The video shows a couple of the tires flopping around, but others staying level on the ground. They stay flat more often than they flop, but I would like to know how to keep them flopping around at all. s62.photobucket.com/albums/h95/rasch_jetta/?action=view¤t=DSCF0097.flv
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Post by coachweigelt on Jun 21, 2009 14:05:46 GMT -6
I have seen coaches attach the rope at a small football pad, if you have some extra laying around give it a try
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Post by champ93 on Jun 21, 2009 14:09:17 GMT -6
We made a harness by creating loops out of rope, used pipe insulation in the loops to prevent the ropes from rubbing the kids raw,and used duct tape to secure the rope loops and the insulation to the ropes. About $15 for the rope and pipe insulation.
We have also used a belt after looping a nylon tow strap to the tire.
We put some plywood in the bottom of the tire to throw a plate or 2 in there. No flopping.
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Post by airman on Jun 21, 2009 16:24:29 GMT -6
use inner tubes of cars. this is what de la salle uses. they claim their big advantage is they do tire pulls.
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Post by CoachBorrelli on Jun 21, 2009 16:39:53 GMT -6
use inner tubes of cars. this is what de la salle uses. they claim their big advantage is they do tire pulls. Inner tubes are great. problem is finding them. Everything is tubeless now. the rope idea is great and coupled with the foam pipe insulation which you can then wrap with athletic tape. The length from the harness to the tire should be long atleast 15feet. longer the better to keep the tires from flipping. i also like the idea of putting plywood in the tires to add plates.
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Post by midlineqb on Jun 21, 2009 17:19:10 GMT -6
We used bicycle inner tubes for the shoulder harness. They worked great.
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Post by airman on Jun 22, 2009 18:33:16 GMT -6
use inner tubes of cars. this is what de la salle uses. they claim their big advantage is they do tire pulls. Inner tubes are great. problem is finding them. Everything is tubeless now. the rope idea is great and coupled with the foam pipe insulation which you can then wrap with athletic tape. The length from the harness to the tire should be long atleast 15feet. longer the better to keep the tires from flipping. i also like the idea of putting plywood in the tires to add plates. you clearly do not live in the midwest where you can get small tractor inner tubes.
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Post by catoc on Jun 22, 2009 19:23:05 GMT -6
We are bog into tire pulls. We use nylon rope and tie each end to a rolled towel. We then use athletic tape on the towel. We have the kids put it across their chest like a sash. Worked best for us.
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Post by catoc on Jun 22, 2009 19:26:06 GMT -6
We are big into tire pulls as well. Not many bogs around here.
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Post by airman on Jun 22, 2009 19:26:35 GMT -6
anyone do reverse tire pulls? when I say reverse I am pull the tire toward them. it is a big thing in crossfit training and a lot of the mma stars do it.
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Post by coachwilley on Jun 22, 2009 19:26:50 GMT -6
Anyone have an inexpensive idea for a harness for tire pulls. I just don't want to shell out $40-200? Also, do you think a waist harness is better than a shoulder harness? How long should the rope to the tire be? I have read from a speed and acceleration training standpoint that a waist harness is better than a shoulder harness.
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Post by therimrattler on Jun 22, 2009 19:35:24 GMT -6
midlineqb,
we have also used the bicycle inner tubes and they do work great. doubling them up on both shoulders keeps any kid from getting injured like you can with a rope type apparatus. they can also be used very safely around the waist as well. of course, there never has been a cost because the local bike shop guys have no use for them.
relating to the tires flipping around, we drilled a hole in the tire and put in an "eye bolt" about 3" above the ground when the tire lays flat on the ground.
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Post by champ93 on Jun 22, 2009 19:51:53 GMT -6
anyone do reverse tire pulls? when I say reverse I am pull the tire toward them. it is a big thing in crossfit training and a lot of the mma stars do it. If I catch your drift, yes. We use a tow strap since it has small loops already sewn in. The tow strap goes through an eyebolt attached to the tire. We drag the tire that is weighted with various plates in the center. Not sure if this is what you meant or not. It's part of our Puking Lot stations--tire pulls w/harness, tire drags w/tow strap, sledge hammer chops on a tire, a stationary weighted tire pull, pulling a rope while feet are planted ina hand over hand motion, and Prowler work. We rotate in stations 6-7 minutes, about 7-8 kids per group. We do it out in our parking lot. It was dubbed the puking lot since the first time we did, a few kids refunded their breakfasts.
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Post by trojan on Jun 22, 2009 20:31:35 GMT -6
We put some plywood in the bottom of the tire Nice.
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Post by coach101 on Jun 25, 2009 9:09:57 GMT -6
Definitely use a waist harness instead of shoulder. The shoulder harness is not optimal for a couple of reasons. It has a tendancy to cause the athlete to arch his back or round it forward. Neither of which is what you want for proper acceleration training. If the athlete is strong enough in his core to maintain the correct straight angle from his head to his foot, then the shoulder harness puts compression forces on the spine. Also not a good idea. The waist harness is the way to go.
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Post by owntheline on Jun 25, 2009 13:54:06 GMT -6
We use strongman pulling harnesses from www.prowriststraps.com They are heavy duty and work great. Most of the force is on the waist part of the harness, but the shoulder straps help keep it in place. We do pulls forwards and backwards, we also do stationary pulls--kids drag the tire towards themselves, hand over hand. Great for grip strength. We also use the harnesses with long bungees anchored to the ground to practice first steps under resistance and explosive get-offs. The harnesses are buy one (for $140) get 2 free, plus I think they have another 10% off right now. Well worth the money, I get tons of good use out of them. Their medium size is pretty big, fits most high school O-linemen. If the tires are flopping, get a bigger tire, or load them down with sand bags. I've got no affiliation with the harness company, but have ordered a lot of stuff from them and have been extremely satisfied. www.OwnTheLine.com
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Post by owntheline on Jun 25, 2009 13:58:24 GMT -6
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Post by brophy on Jun 25, 2009 14:34:55 GMT -6
Yes....the innertube works the best; cheap, comfortable, and nearly indestructable
If you tire pull on a flat surface, throwing a single 45 on there will work (won't fall off). If you are doing more than a 45, I woud think you'd just want to do partner assisted pulls(?)
Has anyone ever tried doing Tire ROWS using same mechanism?
Seated, pull a Large (tractor) tire on grass via 20+ft of nylon rope?
We did it one year for a strongman comp and it was great.
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Post by Tooch43 on Jun 25, 2009 17:38:49 GMT -6
We tried the tire pulls with bicycle tubes and clothesline. It worked great for about three sprints and then the tubes started snapping.
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Post by miami5 on Jun 26, 2009 4:30:42 GMT -6
Hey guys, i have used rope, but find straps work best. Straps with built in handles are great for doing all kind of movements we do forward,backward, and lateral pulls. also do tire rows,high pulls,curls chest press etc. if your out of shape tires will tell you.
Lately we have been doing a kinda power circuit of 1. Tire flips 5-10 2. Lumber jack Squat and press 3. Sand bag shouldering
15-30 seconds between each as many set as you can handle
Finish off with tire drags ( in parking lot ) 150-200 feet Tire is a BOB CAT tire with a 45LBS weight on it
This little routine kicks there behind if your not in any kinda condition, and then again even if you are.
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Post by miami5 on Jun 26, 2009 4:35:37 GMT -6
Oh LUMBER JACK squats.
we have a large 10 foot log (250 or so pounds) about 8 inch dia. getting on one end, get it up to your chest, now with your hands under it ( the other end is in the ground ) holding it at your chest you squat down ( deep) as you extend up you press the log in one movement, then as you bring it down you squat at the same time repeat till well you fail.... the kids absolutely hate/ love this lift and it mimics football movement
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Post by Tooch43 on Jun 29, 2009 21:42:08 GMT -6
Thanks for your help everyone. We ended up take 3 bicycle tubes and duct taping them together. We used clothes line about 10 feet long. Thanks again.
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