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Post by husky44 on May 26, 2009 16:29:18 GMT -6
How many of you purposely place a specific routine in your practice schedule and game preparation for "rah rah"? I never bought into the fake enthusiasm as a player but I know that some do. I know that the most important thing for kids to play with enthusiasm is the coaches but don't kids see right through the "rah rah" routine? We play some teams that have quite a show before games but our HC does not like this and there is none of that in our program. What are your thoughts? If your program does use a lot of "rah rah" please share some examples.
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Post by touchdownmaker on May 26, 2009 17:43:17 GMT -6
I have never used any rehearsed emotion stuff. what a waste of time in my opinion. Id rather get a few more reps of our plays in.
sometimes people ask "why dont your kids celebrate when they score?" and say "im thinking about the two point conversion and so are they, they EXPECT to score. Its just not a big deal. Demonstrating emotion and performing with it are two different things.
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Post by coachbush1525 on May 27, 2009 8:43:20 GMT -6
Last year, I was at a school that the kids would do the "jumping chest bump" right after stretching, then get together so the coach could talk before we began practice. This year, the team I'm with is the most laid back team I've ever seen. The HC swears that they will be ready to play when the whistle blows, but they exhibit almost no emotion in practice.
We'll see. I'm emotional, somewhat anyway, so.
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Post by fbdoc on May 27, 2009 8:48:18 GMT -6
I think this is one of the individual matters - for the coach as well as the players. If you are a rah rah guy then that stuff will work for you. If your kids enjoy that kind of thing then its probably going to be a positive addition. There's nothing good or bad about rah rah unless its phony and falls on deaf ears. Being enthusiastic is always positive but it won't replace hard work and dedication!
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Post by coachdbucs on May 27, 2009 8:57:24 GMT -6
I agree fbdoc, rah rah is for some and not for others. We don't have a rah rah guy on our whole staff but our kids are always ready to play. I fact we beat a lot of rah rah teams. Our kids and staff get excited when we have to or need to. I believe our enthusiasm is demonstrated in the way we prepare in the off season and game week. It is a constant consistent attitude toward excellence, not a spur of the moment emotion.
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Post by schultbear74 on May 27, 2009 9:35:31 GMT -6
False enthusiasm or forced enthusiasm makes me feel queasy. If my kids don't yell and scream I'm OK with that as long as they play the game all out.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on May 27, 2009 9:57:30 GMT -6
I've always been an even-kieled player and coach- and I can smell the fake enthusiasm a mile away.
We do finish our warmups everyday with Pride Jacks, but it's just to signify the start of practice.
I let the upperclassmen do the breakdowns. Either the kids get hype or they don't.
I really don't get involved with it more than that.
All I ask is that they don't sing or dance around during warmups- you can't be bouncing around and be focused on the task at hand IMO.
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Post by atalbert on May 28, 2009 9:51:06 GMT -6
I love when I see the other team faking enthusiasm - I know we're about to kick their a$$. The more quiet my kids are, the better we will play. Its intensity over emotion - the real stuff, not the fake rah rah stuff. IMO, all jumping around and screaming and yelling and chest bumping does is make you tired about 15 minutes later. Maybe not physically, but emotionally.
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Post by goldenbear76 on May 28, 2009 10:42:24 GMT -6
Like the two above me...we're the same way. We do not win the warm-up battles lol. Our kids know that football games are won with fundamentals, so when a team comes out in a game giving us an Under-Armour Commercial with "We must protect this house!" ...most of our kids are laughing.
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Post by John Knight on May 28, 2009 11:08:32 GMT -6
We have a RAH RAH period,
Running,
Agility and
Hitting,
Repeat!
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Post by phantom on May 28, 2009 11:31:02 GMT -6
Like the two above me...we're the same way. We do not win the warm-up battles lol. Our kids know that football games are won with fundamentals, so when a team comes out in a game giving us an Under-Armour Commercial with "We must protect this house!" ...most of our kids are laughing. On the other hand our kids like that kind of stuff. As coaches our main job in that area at our place is figuring out when to cut it short. |
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Post by justryn2 on May 28, 2009 16:15:17 GMT -6
Based on what I've seen, the sword of emotion cuts both ways. I've seen teams that get themselves totally jacked-up before the game and then, a turnover, stalled drive, defensive mistake or two and they're two touchdowns behind and all that emotion is still there, its just negative emotion now. I definitely want my team to play with intensity but getting overly emotional can be a problem.
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Post by eickst on May 29, 2009 22:38:24 GMT -6
The higher the peak...the lower the valley.
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Post by outlawjoseywales on May 30, 2009 8:40:35 GMT -6
Please take what I'm saying here in context, football is a physical and emotional sport, it has to be played that way.
"Rah Rah" must be backed-up with tough ability though.
The old saying, "enthusiasm is no substitute for substance" is a great lesson. However, almost all this has to do with the personality of the coach and what he wants done.
However, what I've really discovered over the years is that my kids don't play emotionally if I am not coaching emotionally.
I've experimented with being quieter, taking things low key, working them up etc.
What I've found is that if I put a huge amount of emotional and vocal energy into a game, my kids will play that way.
If I kinda' stay low key, my kids will play that way too.
Emotional heights are not something that you can build to everyweek. It must be a key part of our strategy. I don't think that kids can keep their fever-pitch high-strung emotional effort for every game. It must be crafted.
I firmly believe "emotions" are weapons and must be used wisely by a coaching staff. (wisely is the key word here)
OJW
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Post by mariner42 on May 30, 2009 15:54:07 GMT -6
I'll echo OJW. If I want my guys to be calm, cool, methodical, then I'll show about as much emotion as the bricks lining the stadium. If I want them up, excited, and emotional, that's what I'll be. I prefer the second, but realize there are games where I have to be the first. The hard, tough games where we win in the 4th quarter need that first approach. The games where the plan is smother from the get-go, they need emotion to keep that fire lit after the adrenalin wears off.
Personally, I love seeing a blitzer clock the QB, get up, and walk away like he didn't even do anything. Emotion is great, but cold, hard anger is spectacular. At least for me.
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Post by wingtol on May 30, 2009 16:01:50 GMT -6
There is definitely the real emotion kid and the fake look at me emotion kid. I have been around them both. Have had the kid who you just roll your eyes at when they do their yelling and what not before a game. The last few years we have a 5'9 175 G/LB who we kind of scares me when he gets going. So you can have it both ways, it's just keeping it all in check and not letting either get out of hand.
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Post by byuwolverine on May 30, 2009 22:36:39 GMT -6
There has to be a mix of calm, methodical, "we do what we do". Then there has to be a time were we get real emotional. Both support each other, and move swiftly between each phase. The best part is when in the last couple of games, the way we find out if we have done a good coaching job is if players know when to be calm and execute and go to the other extreme when we score, big hit ect. then get right back on the tracks.
That is beautiful to watch and all we have to do as coaches is call our stuff and get the right personnel on the field.
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Post by glcove on May 31, 2009 7:22:55 GMT -6
I'm not a rah rah coach, but I do believe in coaching & playing with emotion. That includes practice.
I like OJW's quote "enthusiam is no substitute for substance", But I do believe some players & teams practice/play better with external motivators.
How many coaches have music blaring during weight training sessions to get the kids "going". So I guess the coaches that use Rah rah routines in practice or pre game might be on to something.
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Post by coachorr on May 31, 2009 8:46:58 GMT -6
The older I get, the less "rah rah" I become.
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Post by hoosier on May 31, 2009 8:52:45 GMT -6
i think this may be one of those things where its better to ask your players than other coaches. it is for them, and they are the ones doing it after all. i believe the thing that will carry you through 4 quarters of football is emotion and passion. its important for the players to play with those every down, and some people enjoy the "rah rah" others dont.
you see it in the NFL too. Ray Lewis and his "dawgs in the house" chant, Drew Brees with "this is new orleans!" or when the Colts used to "get crunk" before kick off. if its something the players want to do i say let them. dont try to hold their emotions/passion back, if its in good taste.
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Post by coachorr on May 31, 2009 10:43:25 GMT -6
i think this may be one of those things where its better to ask your players than other coaches. it is for them, and they are the ones doing it after all. i believe the thing that will carry you through 4 quarters of football is emotion and passion. its important for the players to play with those every down, and some people enjoy the "rah rah" others dont. you see it in the NFL too. Ray Lewis and his "dawgs in the house" chant, Drew Brees with "this is new orleans!" or when the Colts used to "get crunk" before kick off. if its something the players want to do i say let them. dont try to hold their emotions/passion back, if its in good taste. Great point, emotion needs to begin and end through the players, but how much spark does a coach need to create? As far as NFL, not really up on what they do. |
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