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Post by airraider on May 6, 2009 18:22:36 GMT -6
Well... I had heard coming in that none of the old staff would stay.. but I didnt know it to be full blown truth..
Well after yesterday's end of the year evaluations, the two remaining guys I had on staff have been told that they will not be welcomed back next year as teachers.
So they decided to step away this spring.
I have one volunteer coach who shows some days.. and not on others..
So pretty much.. I have 36 players.. and I am the only coach out there..
I hope I will find some guys to hire this summer..
Tomorrow.. I am giving everyone the day off other than the backs and linemen.. we are going to work the run game all practice along with pass pro...
This is really the only way to effectively coach the groups.
Anyone ever been in this situation before?
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Post by jsucoach79 on May 6, 2009 18:34:37 GMT -6
Yes I have done it. It was the best and worst thing to ever happen in my brief career. The worst for obvious reasons and the best because I learned more football( all positions) in that short time span. We actually won the region that year. PM me and i will tell you what worked for me and you can do what you want with it.
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Post by fbdoc on May 6, 2009 18:50:04 GMT -6
There have been a couple of staffs where we had 5 or 6 guys and I still felt by myself. jsu - if you have some experience that would help the members of the board go ahead and share.
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Post by schultbear74 on May 6, 2009 19:00:06 GMT -6
I have felt by myself before when coaching in the weightroom. I decided that it was my fault and then I repeated my expectations for the other coaches. I still have to stay after them. Sometimes I find myself too lazy to coach the coaches and then I have to chastise myself.
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Post by bigdog2003 on May 6, 2009 19:18:34 GMT -6
Coach, it sounds like you are having a time of it. I coached youth ball by my self at times two years ago.
If I was closer, I would offer to help as a volunteer that would be there everyday all the time.
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Post by los on May 6, 2009 20:12:18 GMT -6
Yeah airraider, did it for 12 seasons in youth ball, had a couple occassional dad coach's from time to time, but basically all alone  ....course we usually only had about 20 something players.....might be the reason we only had like 5-6 plays we ran on a regular basis and one base defense....but we could block and tackle, lol....As difficult as this was to manage, I couldn't imagine coaching any higher level like that and having any success. |
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Post by PSS on May 6, 2009 20:25:14 GMT -6
Right now I'm joining a staff that is opening a new school next year. The HC has been going to the 2 high schools that our kids will be coming from. Since January he has been going to 2 separate HS's and running 2 offseasons. The kids that are coming to our HS have already been pulled out and put in a different athletic period, so that was a huge benefit.
This month the staff is just now starting to install the O and D. Offense gets 1 day a week and the defense gets 1 day a week.
Although the HC ran the offseason by himself, there were huge gains in the weight room. It can be done.
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Post by jsucoach79 on May 7, 2009 6:58:05 GMT -6
The key is organization and accepting reality. You must script everything and I mean everything from practice to breaks to when you want to see what playaction pass for your defense. The reality come with the fact that you will have to sacrifice some individual teaching for team teaching. You will never be able to coach every position as well as if ou had position coaches for those positions. Get a system on offense and get good at a few plays. Dont try to tun a little spread with jet sprinkled in and a little veer. it will never work. On defense get 1 coverage( preferably man) and get good at that. We were a 33 stack team and blitzed at least 5 every play using the same wristband scheme as we did on offense. Once again not saying that this is the best way but it worked for me and my situation. Ask any questions that you may
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2009 7:23:03 GMT -6
I coached 50 9th graders a few years back. I had an kid that helped 2 days a week or so. I asked the Varsity HC for some help(they had 10 coaches), he sent a guy over sometimes but not very much. I took it as a challenge that I have to prove myself as a coach. We started 4-0 without giving up more than 10 pts in any game. STUD FB that ended up starting varsity the last 2 games of the year. He takes my FB after game 4 and sits him for 2 weeks before he even steps foot on gamefield. Then 2 weeks later takes my qb to JV.
nevertheless, we we finished 5-4 running the spin offense I put in the last week of the season(3 runs and 1 pass) with a fast as crap kid at qb.
one of the toughest years I have ever coached, but also one of the most enjoyable. I felt like it was me and the kids against the world. I used that line more than once too. I learned alot about management, practice organization, parental support, the whole 9.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2009 7:23:54 GMT -6
oh yeah, air raid, you need some coaches?
any teaching jobs?
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Post by airraider on May 7, 2009 7:28:42 GMT -6
oh yeah, air raid, you need some coaches? any teaching jobs? I will have English, SPED, and PE for sure. The PE will have to be head basketball coach as well. I will also possibly have a Physical Science position open. |
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Post by splitbacks on May 7, 2009 7:31:55 GMT -6
There were times that I wished that I coached myself, then there were times when I have had to deal with Mr. Super Hands On. You know that guy who does everything and wont let anyone else say a word. I can't stand those guys
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Post by mariner42 on May 7, 2009 7:32:42 GMT -6
I've been there metaphorically, but never literally. Sometimes I wonder which would be worse, it's pretty frustrating feeling like your staff is more or less a non-entity, although when it's just you there's absolutely no one else to blame.
Tough situation for sure.
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Post by airraider on May 7, 2009 7:39:37 GMT -6
I've been there metaphorically, but never literally. Sometimes I wonder which would be worse, it's pretty frustrating feeling like your staff is more or less a non-entity, although when it's just you there's absolutely no one else to blame. Tough situation for sure. Last year I really did not have anyone that I could say.. "hey go do this and this with these kids.. I want it done like this".. and really feel comfortable that it would get done exactly the way I wanted it. but at least I had babysitter coaches who could run drills and keep things going. I dont even have that now. I do have some good kids on the line who can run the O-line drills for me and I want to get my QB able to conduct assignment periods for the linemen. I only will have 3 positions for sure open.. The PE job will be filled.. but it has to be an experiences BB coach. SPED is a good possibility... English is hard to fill with a coach.. just the way it is.. its tough.. But if I could get 2 good hard working on staff guys.. I could roll with that and not look back.. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2009 8:39:19 GMT -6
too bad about the PE job, I am looking.
If it were wrestling and PE, I would most certainly be your guy.
I know basketball, but not enough to teach it as a head coach. maybe an asst.
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Post by airraider on May 7, 2009 10:08:22 GMT -6
too bad about the PE job, I am looking. If it were wrestling and PE, I would most certainly be your guy. I know basketball, but not enough to teach it as a head coach. maybe an asst. Yea.. its hard when spots are tied to other sports.. the basketball gig he says doesnt have to have HC experience.. but does want an experienced coach.. They won state back in 03 in basketball.. so its going to be tough shoes to fill.. The guy that just got let go hit some kids and pushed some up against some walls.. so his days were numbered!! |
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Post by jpdaley25 on May 7, 2009 10:51:55 GMT -6
I teach English. If I get canned anytime soon, I will give you a call.
As to the question- yup, I've been there. Right now I have one assistant who is also the head baseball coach and a few community coaches. I can never really tell who's going to be here when - so I have things laid out so anyone can teach any group.
How do you feel about four and six hour practices with different groups of kids coming in at different times? That's what we do. If all you ever do is one or two coaches on 30 kids, you won't have the level of specialization that your opponents with more coaches have.
You have to invest more time and effort and planning to make up that imbalance.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2009 11:02:59 GMT -6
wow, 4 and 6 hour practices??? out of school at 3 and home at 9? maybe I am misunderstanding what your saying.
dont think the wife would understand why I leave at 7 and am home at 9....
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Post by davecisar on May 7, 2009 11:04:27 GMT -6
AR,
In youth ball Ive done it
Had the linemen get there 30 minutes ahead of the rest of the pack
THe rest stayed 30 minutes after the linemen were through
Allowed me 30 minutes indy time with each
Im sure you could have the backs/rec do warm ups while you are getting after it with the
o-line
You might consider finding out which youth coach in your area is the most consistent at the upper age groups and offer him an asst position. Many of the real good ones are self employed businessmen where we live. Sounds like dire circumstances
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Post by utchuckd on May 7, 2009 13:03:12 GMT -6
I'd come down and help you out for free if I could just to run that 6 wide stuff! ;D  |
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Post by fatkicker on May 7, 2009 14:24:18 GMT -6
hey raid....
english teacher coach here.......but moved bout 9 times in 12 years......
tired of movin.......
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Post by coachorr on May 7, 2009 14:51:58 GMT -6
oh yeah, air raid, you need some coaches? any teaching jobs? The PE will have to be head basketball coach as well. Too bad I am not single. |
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Post by jpdaley25 on May 7, 2009 15:14:46 GMT -6
3:25 - 7:10 - First five days of spring, first five days of summer, and every Monday during the season. The six hour practices are in the summer - first two days of 2-a-days- two, 6 hour practices. I schedule in a little time to eat, drink, and poop. No wife - imagine that.
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Post by stylee on May 7, 2009 16:27:13 GMT -6
Recent LSU English and Philosophy graduate...wish I knew whether or not I was accepted into the law school I applied for.
I'd love to help if I could, seeing how I love literature and writing as much, if not more, than football.
I've only been coaching for two years, and only at the semi-pro level, but for a few weeks last year I was the only coach at a lot of our practices. When it came time to call plays, however, the other coaches showed up .
The practices were very tough because I had to learn really quickly the techniques and fundamentals of positions I wasn't at all familiar with.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2009 16:42:53 GMT -6
Well... I had heard coming in that none of the old staff would stay.. but I didnt know it to be full blown truth.. Well after yesterday's end of the year evaluations, the two remaining guys I had on staff have been told that they will not be welcomed back next year as teachers. So they decided to step away this spring. I have one volunteer coach who shows some days.. and not on others.. So pretty much.. I have 36 players.. and I am the only coach out there.. I hope I will find some guys to hire this summer.. Tomorrow.. I am giving everyone the day off other than the backs and linemen.. we are going to work the run game all practice along with pass pro... This is really the only way to effectively coach the groups. Anyone ever been in this situation before? My first year I coached the entire team while my assistant, sat in his car drinking coffee and listening to sports radio....been there |
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Post by kcbazooka on May 8, 2009 6:05:46 GMT -6
I was the only coach of the fighting Freshmen Minooka Indians in 1979ish.. went undefeated! 3-0-3! we obviously learned together -- lots of fundamental time - all positions learned how to tackle and block the same. We scrimmaged a lot! and we probably spent more time conditioning since we couldn't break down into groups. Let's see fundamentals, scrimmage, and lots of conditioning - things could be worse...
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Post by PIGSKIN11 on May 8, 2009 10:04:31 GMT -6
I just took over a program in March. I am not alone, I have assistants, but some did not get cleared by the district so they are not out there.
The 3 that are out there with me are new to the system so they are learning it as well...
So, therefore, I am alone... It is actually OK...
My theory is we will teach a ton of scheme and terminology and all that and THEN get into technique when everyone is on staff and coaching...
We have about 40 kids out there and we just rep huddling, formations, and 3 run plays... Put in quick pass as well... And I am happy haha
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Post by coachguy83 on May 8, 2009 10:16:41 GMT -6
My first football coaching job was last year and for the first three weeks I was the only coach. It did not go very well but a lot of it was because I was coaching our 3rd and 4th grade team and had only one player that had ever played before. I have to say it taught me a lot of valuable lessons, but I don't ever want to be in that situation again.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2009 11:55:55 GMT -6
3:25 - 7:10 - First five days of spring, first five days of summer, and every Monday during the season. The six hour practices are in the summer - first two days of 2-a-days- two, 6 hour practices. I schedule in a little time to eat, drink, and poop. No wife - imagine that. Can you say BURNOUT!!!!!! wow man, that is alot |
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Post by seagull73 on May 10, 2009 13:47:36 GMT -6
My 1st coaching job ever. I was head JV with no assistants for the first 2 weeks of the year. I am an o-line guy and knew very little about skills guys and almost nothing about defense. We did a lot of group work. I would set up the QB, WR & RB with routs on air or run polish and work with the o-line. and then give the o-line sled work or agilities and work the skills guys. Needless to say it didn't work very well.
I think those type of circumstances help make or break you. I have learned not to judge other coaches because you don't know their circumstances. I was forced to learn about all phases of football and it made me better.
My 1st head varsity job it was me and my DC and that was it. You learn to be creative with practice planning! We sucked but improved from 1-9 to 7-3 the next year. I found 2 other coaches that were committed and the 1-9 season taught me I wasn't as good as I thought I was.
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....course we usually only had about 20 something players.....might be the reason we only had like 5-6 plays we ran on a regular basis and one base defense....but we could block and tackle, lol....As difficult as this was to manage, I couldn't imagine coaching any higher level like that and having any success.
