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Post by barr602000 on May 4, 2009 15:50:40 GMT -6
Does anyone have any information on the commitment cards that De La Salle does with there players on Pre-Game Nights? Anything would be great.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2009 21:44:42 GMT -6
theres a bit about them in the book, when the game stands tall..
the players write down goals for practice that week and the game, swap with a teammate, and the pair holds each other accountable to these goals.
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Post by cmow5 on May 4, 2009 22:50:52 GMT -6
anybody do this? anymore info on it? I LOVE this idea!!!!
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Post by cnunley on May 5, 2009 6:49:31 GMT -6
Ive read the book and when I got to that part I really wanted to do it. I just dont know if my players will buy in or not. One thing in the book was the goals had to be very specific. A player could not put "Im going to give 100%" The coach wanted the How and Why with the goal.
I was thinking of giving it a shot for my Olineman. Have each player make 1-2 practice goals and 1-2 game goals each week and I will choose who they exchange with. If at the end of the week I feel that someone didnt reach their goals BOTH people had a consequence. I think that would MAKE the players hold each other accountable. Im looking for a player to say..."dude...get it together, you said your goal was ______ and you're not doing it. You know if you dont get this done coach is going to make us __________."
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Post by sbv on May 5, 2009 7:05:27 GMT -6
I've also always liked the idea but am afraid it is too touchy feely for me. I don't think I would include punishments because they could set their standards low just so they don't have to do more. I think that you deciding who they get traded with is enough to hold them accountable since they can't just pick a friend who they know won't get on to them for not doing what they said they would.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2009 10:56:04 GMT -6
Ive read the book and when I got to that part I really wanted to do it. I just dont know if my players will buy in or not. One thing in the book was the goals had to be very specific. A player could not put "Im going to give 100%" The coach wanted the How and Why with the goal. yeah, its got to be something you actually have control over...cant say like "i will rush for 150 yards in the game" or "i will make every tackle", more like "push out one extra rep in the weight room during the week", "use proper technique on every tackle attempt", etc - something the players can control and monitor. i think as sbv said you need to set the culture of high expectations before otherwise you will just get kids shortchanging themselves with the goals
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Post by cnunley on May 5, 2009 11:04:02 GMT -6
I agree completely with what you guys are saying about the players will set the bar low. I've thought the same thing. I think I will 'help' them set their goals at first. Let them see what I am looking for in a goal. If that makes sense.
So, if Johnny comes to me with a Low Bar Goal I will say....Johnny, that looks good but Im going to add ______ to it.
I think if somethign new like this is implemented the coaches have to put in a lot of time to make sure the players arent just writting something down to be doing it.
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Post by coachwilley on May 9, 2009 1:21:30 GMT -6
We included part of it this year and I was amazed each week by atleast 1 player. We added the Thursday family meal night followed by team meeting and film. After film quit rolling we would open it up to commitments. Although it didn't include the practice commitments, you'll be suprised with some of the things the kids come up with. I think it helped doing it towards the end of practice because the commitments would be geared towards things that they may have been struggling with in practice that week or things we've been focusing on as coaches. Anyhow after the film stops the light stays out and we would just wait. The first couple weeks we had to wait a long time, but eventually someone would stand up and say "I commit to you guys that I will get my down block on number 44 on every veer option." Or "I commit to cover number 22 on every crossing route tomorow night." "I commit to picking up the mike when he blitzes on our five step." And you know what-I'll be damned if they didn't come through 90 percent of the time. It was really great to experience. The coaches even had some commitments throught the year....
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Post by 3rdandlong on May 9, 2009 10:06:46 GMT -6
We stole this directly from the DLS book and have implemented it, but with a bit of our own flavor. We have the kids write a goal at the beginning of the week. They must follow this out. All of the cards are posted in the locke room so the kids can see it everyday. After a while, these cards can get pretty good, but occassionally (especially in the beginning) you get the very generic "I will work my hardest at practice" type of goal.
These cards have made the kids accountable and we believe that if 90% of the kids follow up on the goal, then the chances of winning that week increase significantly
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Post by CoachDP on May 13, 2009 23:32:31 GMT -6
I've also always liked the idea but am afraid it is too touchy feely for me. "Touchy feely?" Don't see how goal-setting and holding players responsible is considered "touchy feely." Besides, if it's good enough for Coach Lad... --Dave
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Post by coachriley on May 14, 2009 2:55:01 GMT -6
I am not going against anybody's way of thinking, because obviously we know our own teams better than anybody else, but after reading the DLS book a few times, I dont think that punishments were part of what they were trying to do. He was trying to push his players to be accountable and to be better men, and in my aspect, punishing them for something doesnt follow along those lines. Again, I'm not trying to ruffle any feathers, just my point of view.
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Post by dhooper on May 14, 2009 8:53:17 GMT -6
I am doing them this season with team dinner.
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Post by coachtp on May 14, 2009 10:28:44 GMT -6
Anybody try commitment cards with your off-season program?
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Post by senatorblutarsky on May 14, 2009 13:03:13 GMT -6
Anybody try commitment cards with your off-season program?
We did. They weren't exactly the same... we had "effort sheets"- everyone's effort in the weight room had to be signed off by a teammate (we had some slackers in that group when it came to work ethic and leadership, which necessitated this).
This sheet included doing max reps on last set, encouraging teammates, getting entire workout done right, etc.
A junior-to-be came to me complaining that someone tore up his sheet. A senior-to-be overheard this and yelled "You don't work hard- so I tore it up" he then said "no one sign ______'s card until he starts working!"
I looked at the junior for a bit. He finally said "I guess I could work harder" and I gave him a new sheet told him he was a week behind and better get going.
He (and basically everyone) worked out a lot harder, so I guess it did have the effect I had hoped for.
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Post by husky44 on May 14, 2009 16:25:11 GMT -6
We wrote a letter about commitment and making football a high priority and included a commitment card with the letter asking the kids to sign the card and return it. If they signed this card the expectation is that they commit to the summer training session etc...
We will see what happens, so far it has been positive.
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Post by Coach Goodnight on May 19, 2009 18:37:26 GMT -6
Can anyone post and examples they have seen or recieved? Are there any examples of this on the internet anywhere?
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Post by tigercoach on May 25, 2009 8:47:40 GMT -6
Here it is:
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