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Post by coachinghopeful on Apr 24, 2009 22:07:06 GMT -6
I had this guy as a math teacher when I was in HS and know he's a good man and caring coach who would never "hit" any kid. This is a real shame. I know this is girl's softball, but c'mon! What coach on this board hasn't done this exact same thing many times over? Yet another entry into the CYA file... www.timesnews.net/article.php?id=9013404 |
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Post by kylem56 on Apr 25, 2009 0:37:04 GMT -6
Unfortuantly even though it was probaly not a big deal, it probaly isnt the smartest thing to do when dealing with teenage girls who are emotional as it is. Teenage boys on a football field is one thing but who knows. The article needs to be a little more detailed than saying "hit" in the back of the helmet which I would imagine was an open palm slap. Some sensitive girl went crying to mama and unfortuantly it is what it is. From the way the article sounds, he is a good guy too.
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Post by touchdownmaker on Apr 25, 2009 2:01:11 GMT -6
STAY AWAY FROM GIRLS SPORTS. First of all, the Dads are soooo much more frustrated that they are living through their daughters rather than through their sons, they can get pretty nutzo. Secondly, having a teenage girl "come out" with her sexual orientation on the team bus can create a loooooooooooooong drive home. Too much drama to call it coaching.
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Post by bigdog2003 on Apr 25, 2009 8:37:40 GMT -6
STAY AWAY FROM GIRLS SPORTS. First of all, the Dads are soooo much more frustrated that they are living through their daughters rather than through their sons, they can get pretty nutzo. Secondly, having a teenage girl "come out" with her sexual orientation on the team bus can create a loooooooooooooong drive home. Too much drama to call it coaching. That's what I was thinking. There is no way I could or would coach girl sports. To many problems that could arise. I work as the field supervisor for the local parks and rec for girls softball ,and it drives me crazy. They cry to easily. Me and the umps had to tell a girl she couldn't play because she had writting on her shirt, she cried about it. |
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Post by zbessac on Apr 25, 2009 8:42:48 GMT -6
He was doing it while praising a girl? This is ridiculous, I always said I would never coach girls athletics, I would be sued for butt taping without thinking. This is sad and it sounds like someone had a beef with this coach and was looking for something to get him removed.
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Post by coachcb on Apr 25, 2009 12:14:25 GMT -6
Things to bear in mind-
A. This is the media we're dealing with and this story is extremely slanted in one direction.
B. Assuming that this is the true story and he did lose his job for such an incident; he has legal recourse. Go to the union rep, get a lawyer, and fight for your job.
There was a similar incident in this area last year; a very successful girl's volleyball coach was let go and it caused a stir. The article stated that she was fired for from her teaching and coaching jobs for not playing several seniors who had missed a week of practice. There was an outpour of support for her; everybody cried "FOUL".
And then, of course, it came to light that during a team trip to watch a college volleyball game, she thought it was appropriate to drink a few cocktails at dinner and then drive the team back home.
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Post by coachorr on Apr 25, 2009 19:12:01 GMT -6
My rule of thumb, "never get close enough to a girl to touch her".
Also, if there is a dress code violation I will NOT deal with it and I have told my administrator as much.
No sense in risking millions of dollars. Adds up, when you count your own salary, the cost of legal counsel and the end lawsuit pay out. Not worth it, better to be safe than sorry.
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Post by Coach Bennett on Apr 27, 2009 7:12:34 GMT -6
This is ridiculous, I always said I would never coach girls athletics, I would be sued for butt taping without thinking. What' butt "taping"?  Probably should get sued!  |
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Post by shortpunter on Apr 27, 2009 7:42:28 GMT -6
just sad.....
We had an coach at a nearby HS tap a kids helmet with a shoe- I guess he was taping his ankles- and he caught all kinds of heck for it.
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Post by CoachDaniel on Apr 27, 2009 8:02:55 GMT -6
I coached fastpitch softball for 4 years - in fact I did student teaching in the spring and coached softball before I ever coached a football player. Coaching girls is great. They're more relaxed, they want to do well but their life doesn't depend on it. They'll listen to you, most of the time. Their dads suck because they were all the next Mickey Mantle back in high school, and now they've got a daughter.
Now, on occasion, they'll cry. Or just have a flat out mutiny one day out of no where.
And I kept my hands to myself at all times. There is NOWHERE safe to touch a 17 year old girl with the exception of maybe a high five, not when you're a 20-something male teacher. Of course this story is ridiculous, but I doubt we know all of it.
And zbessac, if you think you might potentially "butt tap" your the ladies after a pep talk without thinking about it, yeah you gotta stay away from the girls athletics. No question. Its good to know your limitations and play to your strengths though.
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Post by warrior53 on Apr 27, 2009 9:00:44 GMT -6
This is ridiculous, I always said I would never coach girls athletics, I would be sued for butt taping without thinking. What' butt "taping"? Probably should get sued! I have had a couple of close calls when coaching girls wrestling! Our head coach treated them just like he did with the boys - I couldn't do it, but he was great at it. One of the best experiences I have had in athletics was coaching those girls - although they sound like they were the exception to the rule. Had a couple of girls at state and one girl a state champion - she was tougher than any boy we had at that school and still remained a girl when she was off the mat. |
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Post by wingt74 on Apr 27, 2009 9:06:09 GMT -6
STAY AWAY FROM GIRLS SPORTS. First of all, the Dads are soooo much more frustrated that they are living through their daughters rather than through their sons, they can get pretty nutzo. Secondly, having a teenage girl "come out" with her sexual orientation on the team bus can create a loooooooooooooong drive home. Too much drama to call it coaching. I agree 100%. Lots of teenage girls in my family...wife's sister, Aunt's two girls...ALL play sports, and holy crap, the drama is unbelieveable to the point where the focus on making themselves better, teamwork, sportsmanship, etc...is all thrown out the window. How about "Jill said my {censored} looks big in my uniform, so I'm not going to give her any good sets" or "Jenny's boyfriend is a complete jerk, I told coach that I do NOT want to be on the field as the same time as her" This coming from one of the best players...at least physically. Now teach a girl who wants to play 8th grade football and who wants to play QB...think we'll just keep her in shotgun all season. |
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Post by JMC on Apr 27, 2009 10:09:08 GMT -6
What you just posted is a good example of what a friend of mine who coaches basketball said. He coached both boys and girls before they combined seasons in Virginia. He told me this when i asked him if he was going to take the head girls job when they combined them that winter "A girl will work hard, she wants to please the coach and she will work hard, however girls like boys and boys like to win." When i asked him what he meant he put it like this "if a girl kisses or calls another girl's boyfriend she will bring that on the court with her and she is guaranteed to bring at least 2 others with her so now they will isolate that one on the court, on the other hand if a boy does the same thing with another boy's girlfriend they will probably fight and not like each other, but they will play the game to win and then hate each other again once the game is over."
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Post by tsu on Apr 27, 2009 11:59:43 GMT -6
coaching girls sports really worries me since ill have to start out on the bottom, and probably get shafted with a girls sport.
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Post by coach4life on Apr 27, 2009 12:18:12 GMT -6
What you just posted is a good example of what a friend of mine who coaches basketball said. He coached both boys and girls before they combined seasons in Virginia. He told me this when i asked him if he was going to take the head girls job when they combined them that winter "A girl will work hard, she wants to please the coach and she will work hard, however girls like boys and boys like to win." When i asked him what he meant he put it like this "if a girl kisses or calls another girl's boyfriend she will bring that on the court with her and she is guaranteed to bring at least 2 others with her so now they will isolate that one on the court, on the other hand if a boy does the same thing with another boy's girlfriend they will probably fight and not like each other, but they will play the game to win and then hate each other again once the game is over." So true.... Like with college roommates, we'd have a spat, clear the furniture, wrestle around for about 5 minutes until too exhausted to continue, decide whatever it was we were scrappin' over is stupid, let's go have a beer or five. Females, they'll keep it going for weeks just for the drama and something to dwell on and talk about for awhile. And how about the female memory? Truly a force to be reckoned with: Your SO when she's unhappy about something: "That's just like the time at that party in April of 1998 at the Snuggledorf's house when you were sitting on the blue couch talking to the long-legged blond in the red dress with your tongue hangin' out slobberin' all over yourself, (breath), yada yada yada..." You: "Huh? What party? Who are the Snuggledorfs? Hell I don't even remember 1998! And what's that got to do with pulling the weeds in the front flower bed?" Her: "Well that couch was the same color as the flowers...." You (silently): ARRRGGGHHHH!!! |
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Post by mariner42 on Apr 27, 2009 23:49:27 GMT -6
There is NOWHERE safe to touch a 17 year old girl with the exception of maybe a high five, not when you're a 20-something male teacher. WORD. Coaching the throwers for the track team, I give high fives, side-hugs, and fist bumps. Other than that, it's all me being the demo and them imitating me. With the boys I'll just manipulate them into position, but the girls I'm damn careful about it. I also turn all anatomical phrases into either kindergarten talk or various non-speak: @ss = bum, chest = top front of your torso, thigh = upper leg, etc. My boys get pretty much the same treatment with this, but if I have to say 'stick your @ss out' or something like that, I feel ok w/ that. |
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Probably should get sued! 
