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Post by groundchuck on Apr 4, 2009 9:44:02 GMT -6
I once read the average HS football player is 5'10" 180# no-a-days.
So I figured our from last year:
Skill: 5'10" 150 (biggest was 170)
Line: 5'11" 210 (biggest was 280)
Team: 5'10" and 180#
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Post by coachorr on Apr 4, 2009 10:35:54 GMT -6
It would seem to me, however, that average players won't get average playing time. At least if you want to win.
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Post by touchdownmaker on Apr 4, 2009 10:54:58 GMT -6
Seems kinda silly to say "average FOOTBALL PLAYER" instead of "average back" "average lineman" "average reciever" etc.
our line up will look about like this:
qb 5 foot 8, 165 lbs
fb 6 foot 1, 195 lbs
rb 5 foot 10 180 lbs
rb 5 foot 9 190 lbs
center 6 foot 2 210lbs
guard 5 foot 9 155 lbs
guard 5 foot 8 170 lbs
tackle 5 foot 9 215 lbs
tackle 5 foot 11 220 lbs
receiver 6 foot 160 lbs
tight end 5 foot 10 170 lbs
whats our average?
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Post by coachnorm on Apr 4, 2009 11:55:42 GMT -6
you're gonna love this....
Our lineup:
QB - 5'4" 105
TB - 5'9" 155
FB - 6' 2" 165
SB - 6'0" 150
TE - 6'0 185
SE - 5'8" 140
RT - 5'9 185
RG - 5'2 145
C - 5'8" 145
LG - 5'10 165
LT - 5'9 185
That's a varsity line up ya'll - not a youth team, and we managed to win games.
I'd love to have a couple of players that were "average".....
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Post by CoachDaniel on Apr 4, 2009 13:14:25 GMT -6
Coach, you put a kid who's 105 pounds on a varsity field... you're going to jail for child abuse. Keep a low profile...
But I agree that the "average" football player is pretty meaningless, I don't think anyone would argue that. 5'10" 180lbs sounds about right. We may have been a little taller by average, our LT and TE were both 6'4"... the 5'6" QB averaged it out somewhat though
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Post by cnunley on Apr 4, 2009 14:51:03 GMT -6
Seems kinda silly to say "average FOOTBALL PLAYER" instead of "average back" "average lineman" "average reciever" etc.
I would have to agree with Touchdownmaker on this one. Even with that, having a certain average doesnt really mean much. Ive had (and Im sure everyone else) several lineman well above the average but didnt see the field and others that were well below the average that didnt come off the field.
Is there a way to measure the average Heart/Desire in a player?
(I guess thats measured in the weight room, right?)
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Post by phantom on Apr 4, 2009 15:08:12 GMT -6
Seems kinda silly to say "average FOOTBALL PLAYER" instead of "average back" "average lineman" "average reciever" etc.I would have to agree with Touchdownmaker on this one. Even with that, having a certain average doesnt really mean much. Ive had (and Im sure everyone else) several lineman well above the average but didnt see the field and others that were well below the average that didnt come off the field. Is there a way to measure the average Heart/Desire in a player? (I guess thats measured in the weight room, right?) I say that if you put one foot in a bucket of ice and one in a tub of boiling water you average out to comfortable. |
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Post by coachnorm on Apr 4, 2009 15:46:21 GMT -6
I say that if you put one foot in a bucket of ice and one in a tub of boiling water you average out to comfortable. Nice!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by coachcastleman on Apr 4, 2009 20:16:42 GMT -6
Our line up
QB 6'3" 175
TB 5'10" 200
FB 5'8 175
H Back 5'10 185
X 6'0" 165
z 6'1" 195
RT 6'0" 270
RG 6'1" 200
C 5'11" 220
LG 5'10" 160
LT 6'0 225
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Post by coachjr on Apr 5, 2009 6:48:13 GMT -6
I agree with DCOhio about #4-11. We really can't change too much about "average" size but we work constantly on heart, desire and teamwork. We've all had our share of above average kids (size) with below average work ethic and heart.
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Post by groundchuck on Apr 5, 2009 8:19:56 GMT -6
I think depending on the size of the school each team has roughly equal numbers of studs. I think back to my time coaching a very small and traditionless 1A school and we usually had 1-2 kids who could play for anyone on our schedule. But our other 9-10 kids probably would not have played JV for the other schools.
Those studs cancel eachother out and now its up to the "average" players on the team to play above average.
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Post by coachjd on Apr 5, 2009 8:30:41 GMT -6
We are a mid size 3A school in Minnesota and almost every team we play is bigger than us across the board. This is what we will look like in 09'.
QB 5'-11 170
FB 5'-9 190
RB 5'-9 165
RB 5'-9 155
WR 6'-2 165
WR 6'-2 170
Center 6'-4 260
OG 6'-3 230
OG 6-0 215
OT 6'0 230
OT 6'-0 215
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Post by coachnorm on Apr 5, 2009 8:55:44 GMT -6
I agree with DCOhio about #4-11. We really can't change too much about "average" size but we work constantly on heart, desire and teamwork. We've all had our share of above average kids (size) with below average work ethic and heart. I agree, heart and toughness, not to mention great ball smarts, that's how we can start a 105 pound QB and still manage to win games and keep him healthy. That's one of those things you can't measure in any tangible way. |
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Post by pantherfb10 on Apr 5, 2009 9:48:09 GMT -6
we are an 8th grade team, starting lineup looks like
QB: 5'8 125 lbs
FB:5'9 165 lbs
TB: 5'8 155 lbs
X:5'10 145
Z:5'8 130
TE: 5'10 165
LT: biggest player 6'1 210 lbs
LG: 5'9 165
C: 5'8 185
RG : 5'10 170
RT: 5'8 155
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Post by khalfie on Apr 5, 2009 11:06:58 GMT -6
Since I'm on a roll...
Being honary and disagreeable....
Let me preface my comments by stating... that there is nothing "average" about football players.
5'9" 170... is so inconsequential to the effectiveness of the player, to speak of the demographic is negate the essence of what makes football special.
5'9" 170... can be a line men at the highest level... and a benchwarmer at the lowest...
5'9" 170... can be the fastest kid on the team... and at the same time the slowest...
5'9" 170... can bench an ungodly 300lbs... or barely lift his weight...
5'9" 170 is not a tangible quantitative characteristic until you are at the collegiate level and beyond. 5'9" 170 doesn't matter until you've already determined that of all these fast people... I'd rather have 6'3 220 than 5'9" 170. Once you've realized that all of these linemen played at a high level... does 5'9" 170 become an issue.
Again... there's nothing average about football players...
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Post by fbdoc on Apr 5, 2009 12:16:00 GMT -6
Players 1-3 might "win" the game for you.
You try and coach players 4-11 (or 12, 13, 14, 15...) up so they won't LOSE the game for you.
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