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Post by scotdaking on Mar 27, 2009 9:10:36 GMT -6
I am looking for draft day strategies and what to look for at the combine/tryout?
Specifically, how many coaches do you ask attend the combine? What are your note taking strategies? Do you keep a file on all the participants so you have insight on the athletic kids drafted by opposing coaches? Is it important to commit to an offense and defense before draft day? Do you score each kid using some elaborate scientific formula? Are you willing to share this formula? Do you politic the parents? Do you attempt to put a kid through a "private" work out?
I know a coach who recommends I ask the kid to get down on all fours and lift and put his right hand forward and lift and point the right leg back. It is said to be more intuitive than any 40 time and one can learn about the kid's coordination and core development depending on how well this is executed.
I appreciate any and all feedback.
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Post by eickst on Mar 27, 2009 11:51:31 GMT -6
I would honestly find out who the kids parents are. Draft the kids with the most supportive and helpful parents. Draft the kids that listen and have a good work ethic, and typically the kids with supportive and helpful parents have those qualities.
Or you could just draft the fastest and best kids you can every time and hope their parents aren't total douche-nozzles.
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Post by coachtut on Mar 27, 2009 13:25:30 GMT -6
As Dave Cisar wrote in his book. Look at birthdays and if your league uses an older/lighter rules take advantage of that. Often the older your roster in youth football the more successful you will be.
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Post by jhanawa on Mar 27, 2009 20:15:19 GMT -6
Our league doesn't have drafts, you get whoever lives within your boundries plus two out of area waivers. Generally, we get the kids from the lower level team from the year before plus anybody who moves in to our area.
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Post by coachmsl on Mar 27, 2009 20:49:36 GMT -6
I would honestly find out who the kids parents are. Draft the kids with the most supportive and helpful parents. Draft the kids that listen and have a good work ethic, and typically the kids with supportive and helpful parents have those qualities. Or you could just draft the fastest and best kids you can every time and hope their parents aren't total douche-nozzles. I agree. Its a big plus coaching a team with supportive, realistic parents. |
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Post by davecisar on Mar 28, 2009 6:25:19 GMT -6
I have to agree with jhanawa on this.
Drafts are important but I know too many real weak coaches that overemphasize drafts and in non draft leagues, recruiting.
Ive coached in a "draft" league where it was kind of blind, all you have is the kids birthdate and weight. In those cases the "winning" strategy is to draft the very oldest kids with average weights. My first year there we drafted lots of bigger younger kids HUGE mistake.
A subsequent league I coached in did a study on age-success and they found the correlation was right on target.
In the draft league, they did allow coaches to "protect" fellow coaches and keep their previous kids, so there was a little bit of "recruiting", but they did away with that and you just had to coach with which dads you got.
In the susbsequent league it was wide open, you got kids from wherever you could. Some teams openly recruiting my best kids and the least successful coaches putting most of their efforts into selective recruiting. We took everyone, didnt matter how good you were.
Now Im in a rural area where the kids more or less have no choice, they play where they live. There is another program in our town but they arent in our league etc.
Select the kids with a heavy weighting on age and general athleticism and coach the heck out of them. In draft leagues most teams should be "relatively" equal with a few exceptions. That means the best coaching will win out. In the draft league I coached in 1 Org won something like 6-7 league titles in the first 4 years ( 2 different age groups) because they had a great coaching staff. The year they left the teams dropped to a combined 3-13.
Coach what you got and never stack or try and parse words to justify shady actions. Good coaches don't need to do any of that and dont overly fret about talent levels.
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Post by ramsfootball on Mar 28, 2009 12:08:36 GMT -6
I must say my first draft day didn't go as planned, I didn't realize the scope of the process, Out of 9 coaches at least 5-6 had laptops with them. I can only imagine they had last seasons tryout and draft info on hand to compare to the current tryout info. Ex. is johnny faster than last season or what did he weigh etc etc. I only had a print out of the tryout info and poor memory of what the kids did on tryout day. So not every pick was ideal. Ex. I picked a older lineman thinking older the better right? However this pick included a younger brother that was very small and first timer. So there went a pick in the later rounds where I needed to grab a lineman. That had me looking for a plan B that I didn't have.
However coaches will take whatever you give them on draft day, HC's have to declare what round their son will be taken in prior to the draft, lets the other coaches know what kids are frozen. But if a kid is a stud surely dad will try to keep his first pick open by putting his son lower in the rounds. Just so happen the two teams in the ship had coaches with sons that should have been 1st rds but went in the 3rd. Both dominant players. So I learned a lot. I got my eyes open this season.
The parent idea is very important. On the upside of my draft my parents were excellent. No drama. Very supportive can only hpe to have more of the same this season.
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Post by scotdaking on Mar 30, 2009 10:01:10 GMT -6
Wow, no scoring formula or private workouts recommended. Ok. So the points I am going to take away are:
1) Good Parents
2) Don't complain about talent levels; Coach 'em up
3) Look at Birthday's; Age Success study
4) Be Award of Draft Dynamics; Coach's son is "frozen" in the 3rd Round
5) Document Draft Day Results; Spreadsheet on a Laptop
Thanks Coaches and Good Luck this upcoming season.
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