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Post by touchdownmaker on Mar 27, 2009 7:49:37 GMT -6
What would you say your top 3 freshman, top three sophs, top three jrs and top three srs can handle in bench and squat?
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Post by olinecoach61 on Mar 27, 2009 7:59:57 GMT -6
These numbers were from our league competition so the judging was very strict and the numbers were down from what we sometimes do when we max out as a team. We placed third in the competition which is the highest we have ever finished.
Class Bench Squat
Freshmen 215 295
205 275
200 315
Seniors 255 355
250 405
205 320
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Post by atalbert on Mar 27, 2009 8:34:33 GMT -6
Top 2
Freshmen
Bench 160 and 175
Squat 275 and 285
Sophs
Bench 200 and 225
Squat 375 and 405
Jrs
Bench 255 and 280
Squat 410 and 465
Srs.
Bench 325 and 350
Squat 505 and 580
The senior with 580 did 600 last yr and will get there by the end of April.
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Post by superpower on Mar 27, 2009 8:59:35 GMT -6
Freshmen Squat - 305, 265, 235
Freshmen Bench - 215, 185, 170
Soph Squat - 355, 315, 285
Soph Bench - 215, 195, 185
Jr. Squat - 405, 395, 390
Jr. Bench - 270, 255, 250
Sr. Squat - 465, 415, 405
Sr. Bench - 305, 295, 285
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Post by senatorblutarsky on Mar 27, 2009 9:45:03 GMT -6
FR (we only have 2)
Bench 200, 125
Squat 275, 180
Clean 175, 130
Soph
Bench 275(QB), 225, 3 at 200-210
Squat 365, 335, 330 (2 at 315) all at powerlifting meets
Clean 210-225 range
JR
Bench 290 (mental thing for 3), 250, 240
Squat 315-340
Clean 240, 215, 215
Seniors (again only 2)
Bench 240, 225
Squat 405, 355
Clean 275, 230
all maxes are powerlifting or testing (same as PL rules for us) maxes.
We had 13 players this year.
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Post by highball007 on Mar 27, 2009 11:03:13 GMT -6
Freshman
Squat - 325/210/310
Bench - 230/215/210
Sophomore
Squat - 405/385/360
Bench - 265/250/245
Junior
Squat - 345/325/315
Bench - 270/265/265
Senior
Squat - 400/385/365
Bench - 300/270/265
Our Cleans are as follows as well
Fr. - 235/220/215
So. - 245/235/230
Jr. - 250/250/245
Sr. - 265/260/245
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Post by atalbert on Mar 27, 2009 11:24:34 GMT -6
Soph Bench 275(QB), 225, 3 at 200-210 Holy $hit - you've got a soph QB who can bench 275 lbs? Does Urban Meyer know about this? |
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Post by calicoachh on Mar 27, 2009 11:56:15 GMT -6
we have a freshmen benching 250lb and squating 365. sophomore benching 285 squatting 365 a couple of other sophomores over 230 on the bench and over 300 on the squat
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Post by whjoe on Mar 27, 2009 12:01:53 GMT -6
senior bench squat
295 395
255 385
junior 235 370
185 275
soph 235 320
205 300
fresh 185 265
165 260
These numbers were going into last season. I arrived in Feb 08 no weight room ethic at all. I really only had access to 9th and 10th graders last year as JV Coach. Now I am varsity Coach and we now have more of a weight room mentality in our whole sports dept.
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Post by mattharris75 on Mar 27, 2009 12:17:39 GMT -6
Don't have all the numbers in front of me, but I can recall some highlights.
This is 2A Alabama HS ball.
Strongest Senior: Bench - 355 Squat - 385 (Kid is 6'1", 260 lbs, and was recruited by Troy to play center and longsnap, ended up signing a D2 baseball scholly)
Senior QB: Bench - 245 Squat - 335 (set a state record for completions in a game with 38, passed for 281 yards a game average, and is 3rd all time in state history in pass attempts and completions.)
Strongest Junior: Bench - 285 Squat - 405
Notable Junior: We have a kid who won the state powerlifting championship both his freshman and sophomore years for his weight class. He's 5'2", and 132 lbs. He benches 225, squats 345, and cleans 225. He's a real freak for his size.
Strongest Sophomores: We had a pair of sophomore running backs who squatted in the 350-365 range. The highest bench I can think of for this group is 215.
I can't think of any notable freshmen off the top of my head. We only had a couple that played this year.
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Post by senatorblutarsky on Mar 27, 2009 12:17:39 GMT -6
Holy $hit - you've got a soph QB who can bench 275 lbs? Does Urban Meyer know about this? Yep. Also...he's 5'9, 195#, lines up in a 3 pt. stance and is our lead blocker on most plays (we are Single Wing). Good arm though... probably the best pure thrower we've had in almost 10 years... but if he plays in college, he'll go DII/NAIA and will be a LB. Still Florida does run a more "fan friendly" Single Wing... maybe they should get someone up here  |
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Post by bulldogoption on Mar 27, 2009 12:41:18 GMT -6
I would really appreciate knowing the enrollment of these schools so we can talk apples to apples.
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Post by mattharris75 on Mar 27, 2009 13:21:19 GMT -6
I would really appreciate knowing the enrollment of these schools so we can talk apples to apples. According to the AHSAA, our enrollment number is 168.8. This includes the 1.35 multiplier that private schools in Alabama get. |
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Post by superpower on Mar 27, 2009 14:15:05 GMT -6
We have about 230 in grades 9-12.
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Post by calicoachh on Mar 27, 2009 15:05:41 GMT -6
we are 595 co-ed in california
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Post by atalbert on Mar 27, 2009 15:13:45 GMT -6
We are a co-op with an enrollment of 396. 55-60 usually out for football.
Just out of curiosity, I've never seen one of these powerlifting meets. Is this something you do at your school? Can it be used as a fundraiser? If anyone can fill me in, I would really appreciate it. It sounds like a cool, meathead thing to do for the players who enjoy lifting.
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Post by gschwender on Mar 27, 2009 18:14:34 GMT -6
i have a junior that can clean 300 X3 can bench 350 X1 and can push press 280 X5 fixing his squat currently but it is in the 300's-he gained 30lbs of muscle (-3" on waist) on a nutrition plan in a 12 week cycle based on boyd epley's nebraska plan have the pwr pnt if interested. all of his maxes went up atleast 50lbs in 12 weeks but he is a psycho---and no steroids--which is waht i questioned him on
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Post by reignman03 on Mar 29, 2009 9:46:02 GMT -6
We are a school of about 560 students, 260 boys, competing in a conference in which 6 of 8 other schools are regionalized and have over 1000 kids. I am going into my second year as HC and there was no lifting program in place with the previous HC. This is where we are right now.
Top 3 seniors...
Bench Squat Power Clean Dead Lift
225/225/215 385/375/345 215/205/185 450/515/385
Top 3 Juniors...I only have 3!!!
205/165/110 365/265/155 205/155/115 460/285/175
Top 3 Sophomores...
205/195/185 295/295/285 185/185/175 385/350/345
I have brought the 8th grade class who are playing freshman football next year to the weightroom to learn how to strength and condition. I would highly recommend you bringing the 8th grade class up. The 8th graders have been coming for about 7 weeks now and I see tremendous improvement. They are learning proper techniques, you see them make progress (getting low, form, etc.), and it is great to see older kids build a camradare with the younger kids, and it great to see the confidence the younger kids are starting to build.
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Post by tango on Mar 29, 2009 18:30:29 GMT -6
Freshman
Bench 265 Clean 255 Squat 400 +
Bench 230 Clean 215 Squat 350
So.
Bench 275 Clean 215 Squat 400
Bench 230 Clean 220 Squat 350
Jr.
Bench 325 Clean 265 Squat 400 +
Bench 300 Clean 265 Squat 400 +
SR. Only one and not strong
Squats are full squats or they do not count. If they have a +, we didn't let them continue on our last max day because they all made big jumps.
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Post by senatorblutarsky on Mar 29, 2009 19:41:05 GMT -6
I didn't add our enrollment:
Grades 9-12 total enrollment 72. Also, we have more girls than boys right now. I think we have 29 boys in the HS. The next 5 years that trend will reverse drastically.
I have brought the 8th grade class who are playing freshman football next year to the weightroom to learn how to strength and condition. I would highly recommend you bringing the 8th grade class up. The 8th graders have been coming for about 7 weeks now and I see tremendous improvement. They are learning proper techniques, you see them make progress (getting low, form, etc.), and it is great to see older kids build a camradare with the younger kids, and it great to see the confidence the younger kids are starting to build.
I'll second that. We have a JH PE period which is athletics- so we do weights year round (after football).
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Post by tango on Mar 29, 2009 19:51:33 GMT -6
325 kids 9-12
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Post by coachgup on Mar 30, 2009 7:24:18 GMT -6
250 kids in HS, Smallest class in NY
Freshman
FB/LB 260 bench 400 Squat 465 Deadlift
Sophmore
G/NT 260 Bench 460 Squat 480 Deadlift
RB 225 Bench 260 Squat 315 Deadlift
Junior
FB/LB 300 Bench 425 Squat 465 Deadlift
TB/LB 260 Bench 320 Squat 435 Deadlift
Senior
150 lb DB 205 Bench 325 Squat 365 Deadlift
300 lb C/NT 305 Bench 310 Squat 405 Deadlift
Writing that down and thinking about how far we have come with this program in 4 years just put a big smile on my face. Thanks!
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Post by kcbazooka on Mar 30, 2009 7:34:09 GMT -6
we are a small school - 180 and get about 30 kids out- freshmen top bench 200 - squat 250
senior 305 - 400.
Our freshmen are not allowed to lift in the weightlifting class at our school. The counselor puts them in a co-ed PE to take care of their PE credit - so they don't get to lift unless they can come afterschool.
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Post by phscoach08 on Mar 30, 2009 7:43:14 GMT -6
Since I don't teach athletic PE I have all the upcoming freshmen after school (8th graders)
Top 3
Bench 230, 220, 200
Squat 290, 275, 270
Deadlift 375, 375, 340
Power Clean 175, 170, 155
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Post by coachbleu on Mar 30, 2009 9:50:33 GMT -6
Is there any way that you could post a clip of your 580 pound squat? Is that a parallel squat, or what we see taught at the other schools in our town? We hear claims of monster squats, a lot of times from incoming students.
ONLY 1 TIME IN MY 15 YEARS HAVE I WITNESSED A KID WHO COULD ACTUALLY DO WHAT HE CLAIMED.
Whenever I hear of monster stats like that, throughout a program, I have to call BS. Please prove me wrong. I'll show you mine if you show me yours(hahaha). Let's see if we are comparing apples to oranges, because I think we are.
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Post by atalbert on Mar 30, 2009 10:25:07 GMT -6
Coach,
I don't have it on video, but that's not a bad idea. It certainly IS NOT a parallel squat, but its close. We call it a box squat. HC has different boxes he makes them touch their a$$ to - hence the name.
He's got an advantage because he's about 5'7/ 280 lbs and his legs are midget-like. HC is alot like you - likes lifts done right. He personally spots all squats and deads to make sure they are done right.
When he took over, kids were using a weight bench for squats -whether they were 6'4 or 5'4. He didn't allow those numbers and made these boxes. Obviously the 5'4 kids weren't real happy about that.
I would assume that each one of the squat numbers on this thread are different and open to interpretation. We test again in 6 weeks, if I can get it on video, I will.
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Post by coachbleu on Mar 30, 2009 12:02:11 GMT -6
ok
Gotcha now.
We have much lower numbers, but do only parallel squats without a surface to touch. The most we've ever had was 515. I cannot imagine being able to achieve that with a bunch of kids (at a small school).
I have some film of us squatting from our lift-a-thon this year in Feb. I'll have to cut some up and post it.
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Post by senatorblutarsky on Mar 30, 2009 15:39:46 GMT -6
Just to brag a bit on our guys... we've actually had 3 kids with 500+ (not over by much...500, 505 and 520) squats at the state powerlifting meet. Two of them were all-conference players in Division II (North Central Conf.- while it was around pretty darn good DII league) and one played DI and is in his 6th year in the NFL. Big numbers at tiny schools are not the norm... but we've had some huge kids here. Our senior w/ 405 did that as a junior. We're hoping he gets 440 this weekend (420 seems likely... 440 iffy). By the way, since this weekend is an AAU meet, I (stupidly) made a deal with them so now I am competing (masters level...just hoping nothing pops out of place that requires emergency surgery... :  Note: I will NOT be attempting 500 (on the good side, I dropped almost 30 lbs. to compete in this). |
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Post by wingtol on Mar 31, 2009 18:25:14 GMT -6
We're single A in PA (smallest class) I think we had 169 boys 9-11 in the last classification.
our top guys: Bench/Squat/Dead
class of '10
240/385/475 (165 lbs G/LB)
255/405/500
205/315/465
'11
205/355/425
205/315/400
210/285/345
Basically the was our starting OL last year, all back this year. The last numbers are for our So. LB that started.
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Post by dhooper on Mar 31, 2009 18:40:48 GMT -6
We're 2a
Last year I had my first 1000lb kid his a soph. Three lifts power clean, squat and bench
I had a senior QB power clean 285 his 6'4" also.
A lot power cleaning over 225
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