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Post by wingtol on Mar 24, 2009 18:44:18 GMT -6
So how long do you think it will take for these to trickle down to us (either through NCAA or Fed rules):
-The initial force of a blindside block can't be delivered by a helmet, forearm or shoulder to an opponent's head or neck. An illegal blindside block will bring a 15-yard penalty.
--Initial contact to the head of a defenseless receiver also will draw a 15-yard penalty.
--On kickoffs, no blocking wedge of more than two players will be allowed.
--Also on kickoffs, the kicking team can't have more than five players bunched together pursuing an onside kick.
I am sure once you mention the safety aspect of some of these rules I can assume they might come our way quick.
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Post by ramsfootball on Mar 24, 2009 19:07:55 GMT -6
Won't be long, I was all for the no contact with the head rules but no more wedges on kick-offs? and no more bunches for onside kicks? hmmmmm, Whats next, no down field blocking like in flag football?? I don't see many teams being able to execute on side kick either. Less football will get played because all the penalties that we be called now. Just my oppinion.
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Post by superpower on Mar 24, 2009 19:13:06 GMT -6
Won't be long, I was all for the no contact with the head rules but no more wedges on kick-offs? and no more bunches for onside kicks? hmmmmm, Whats next, no down field blocking like in flag football?? I don't see many teams being able to execute on side kick either. Less football will get played because all the penalties that we be called now. Just my oppinion. I think the A-11 guys are behind these rules changes in the NFL! ;D
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Post by tog on Mar 24, 2009 19:16:32 GMT -6
at least they don't use fed rules
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slimbo7722
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Post by slimbo7722 on Mar 24, 2009 19:46:54 GMT -6
I wonder what Jim Thorpe, Bronko Nagurski and that era are looking down and saying.
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Post by tog on Mar 24, 2009 20:17:11 GMT -6
they are saying
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Post by ccox16 on Mar 24, 2009 20:54:34 GMT -6
Tog where the H do you ind stuff like that? I about fell out of my chair when I saw that "Meter".
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Post by tog on Mar 25, 2009 7:16:40 GMT -6
google is your friend
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Post by bluecrazy on Mar 25, 2009 7:59:46 GMT -6
Yea I don't know how people even played the game and lived with the unsafe rules we have to come through and change after 100 years of unsafe play. It's a miracle! But to answer the question wingtol - I'm not going to change one bit. It's only 15 yards and they can't award a TD, so phuk it and phuk them. Had unnecessary roughness called once based on sound...at least that's what the official said...phuk him too. So how is that anger management going???
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Post by Yash on Mar 25, 2009 10:15:24 GMT -6
How do you blindside block someone now? Do you touch them and say stop running I got you? Is it like freeze tag now? If you get tagged from your blindside you have to wait for someone to unfreeze you before you can continue playing? I understand not using your helmet, thats fine. But no shoulder or forearm?
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Post by hawkfan on Mar 25, 2009 11:05:20 GMT -6
How do you blindside block someone now? Do you touch them and say stop running I got you? Is it like freeze tag now? If you get tagged from your blindside you have to wait for someone to unfreeze you before you can continue playing? I understand not using your helmet, thats fine. But no shoulder or forearm? I think you can still use your forearm and shoulder, but you can't have initial contact with the defender's head or neck. Go shoulder pad to shoulder pad for the de-cleater and you are fine...at least that's the way I read it.
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Post by rattfink on Mar 25, 2009 16:14:23 GMT -6
So how long do you think it will take for these to trickle down to us (either through NCAA or Fed rules):
-The initial force of a blindside block can't be delivered by a helmet, forearm or shoulder to an opponent's head or neck. An illegal blindside block will bring a 15-yard penalty.
Call it what it is: The Hines Ward Rule
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Post by phantom on Mar 25, 2009 16:37:09 GMT -6
I like the rule as well as the helmet-helmet on a receiver rule.
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Post by coachaaron on Mar 25, 2009 17:52:19 GMT -6
Pretty soon the NFL is going to be a pillow fighting league. The whole thing disgusts me . . .football is a violent and dangerous game and that is part of what makes it a great sport.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2009 18:01:59 GMT -6
Personally, I think the special teams rules (no wedges, no "grouping" when recovering an onside kick) are more ridiculous than the other rules.
In terms of the block, isn't the now banned way an improper way of delivering the block anyway? I'm all for great downfield blocking, but the players shouldn't be looking to go for the guys "head and neck area" anyway.
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Post by phantom on Mar 25, 2009 18:11:24 GMT -6
Personally, I think the special teams rules (no wedges, no "grouping" when recovering an onside kick) are more ridiculous than the other rules. In terms of the block, isn't the now banned way an improper way of delivering the block anyway? I'm all for great downfield blocking, but the players shouldn't be looking to go for the guys "head and neck area" anyway. Exactly. They just say that you can't hit a guy in the head if he isn't looking. You can still knock the crap out of him but without hitting him in the head.
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Post by Yash on Mar 25, 2009 21:10:12 GMT -6
How do you blindside block someone now? Do you touch them and say stop running I got you? Is it like freeze tag now? If you get tagged from your blindside you have to wait for someone to unfreeze you before you can continue playing? I understand not using your helmet, thats fine. But no shoulder or forearm? I think you can still use your forearm and shoulder, but you can't have initial contact with the defender's head or neck. Go shoulder pad to shoulder pad for the de-cleater and you are fine...at least that's the way I read it. I think you are right on that, it can't be to the head. If that is the case, i am completley fine with that. You can deliver a hit to the chest that does the same thing. I don't think that rule is a problem as long as you can still hit the frame of the body. I misread the rule, thank you for the clarification.
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Post by catoc on Mar 25, 2009 21:24:12 GMT -6
In Texas you have to have at least 4 on each side of the kicker so that rule is not that big of a deal.
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Post by CoachFetty on Apr 3, 2009 21:16:12 GMT -6
Horse Collar Rule will be in effect for Wv next year
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Post by red2slam on Apr 4, 2009 16:56:45 GMT -6
I cant see how any of you cant see how they are playing dangerous games with these rules. the next rule they will pass is no contact with your AT ALL!!! They have all but made it an A-11 league.
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