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Post by unc31 on Mar 1, 2009 21:58:04 GMT -6
Just curious as to the chemistry among coaches in conferences or regions around the country. Do the coaches respect one another and get along professionally or do they back stab and pretty much hate each other?
I am coaching in a region in which the coaches are not really amiable other than the obligatory friendliness at meetings. It is not this way in other regions I have coached in during my career.
In most areas aroung the state, coaches are very close and much respect is shown between head coaches and among staffs. It is really kind of a bummer. We won the conference in my second year here in a very good league and there appears to be a lot of animosity towards us for no apparent reason. I miss the close relationships with fellow coaches. That is part of the appeal of coaching HS football.
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Post by jgordon1 on Mar 2, 2009 7:29:31 GMT -6
I would say most of the coaches in our league like and respect each other. Probably not going out for beers, but if there was a problem or you needed some help w/ something, I think they they would help. What bothers me however, is that the AD's are too chummy. They play cards togerther, go on trips... They will all get together and decide things that affect us all. For instance, If we get rained out on Fri it's almost for certain that we are playing on Monday and the next Friday. These guys don't want to come in on the weekend. One time our AD says to our head coach, well what do you think you reputation is around the leaugue, of course my HC says I could care less only a little more colorful. obvously, these guys are talking to each other. There is not the rivalry between them. yea, they want us to win but they aren't going to give us anything more than the next school to do it
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Post by wingtol on Mar 2, 2009 8:54:52 GMT -6
We have a pretty good region coaches wise and working together and all. There is one guy I can't stand due to some issues but other than that we get along good. Two of the HC's I coached with at another school so we get along great and most of the other guys are real professional and get along good. It's a nice situation to be in. Most of the coaches in our city/county get along good, there are a lot of us "younger" guys who know each other from back in HS so that helps to add to the chemistry.
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Post by touchdownmaker on Mar 2, 2009 9:03:50 GMT -6
I like them all but trust none of them ha ha.
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Post by ajreaper on Mar 2, 2009 12:57:44 GMT -6
They are among my closest coaching "friends" in fact I've met with two in the off season (and attended practices of one of them after we had been eliminated from the play offs) to discuss specific football related topics because in both cases I thought they did these things better then any one else I know and they both openly shared (one brought his OC with him as well). One agreed to speak at our clinic for our local youth coaches and when he could not (was at Notre Dame with one of his players during a Jr day event) he sent his sopecial teams coordinator to speakk in his place. The game itself is bigger then us all and respect for those who play and coach it should be more important then our individual desire to "win". I want to win just as they do but I don't stand any better chance of beating anyone by treating them poorly or speaking ill of them.
Now do we all get along like that? No, however we all mutally respect each other and treat each other professionlly to a man.
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Post by bulldogoption on Mar 2, 2009 14:27:54 GMT -6
My conference coaches are great sports. They all smile after beating us......
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2009 14:37:11 GMT -6
For me personally, it's a bit of both. I respect some, some not all. I like some, other not at all.
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Post by k on Mar 2, 2009 16:11:05 GMT -6
Our HC gets along with all the HCs in both leagues of our conference with two exceptions.
There is a team with good kids and the coach isn't that bad except for liking to run up the score IE 30 seconds left up by 2+ scores and running four verts four times in a row. Eventual state champs...
The other is a team where the coach actually works in our building (support staff) and coaches at our biggest rival. There are fights at pretty much every sporting event: Football, Basketball, Baseball, etc. They were a playoff team last year we were just over .500. They were up by 2 scores and were throwing deep on the last drive as well. For the JV game they started 14 varsity starters including 11 seniors at the same positions they played in the varsity game (we're talking about a school that dresses 60 or so kids). Their freshmen game they dressed all of their sophs and even a junior who started. In each game there was continual violence on their part. Every linemen is taught to go for the throat literally and have admitted such to some of our players. The first play of the varsity game five out of five linemen through a punch. I watched it like twenty times and my front came and complained about it after the first drive. It goes so beyond that... easily the dirtiest team you can imagine. The worst part was the parents who are on our sideline because of the combined football/baseball field who sounded like drunken sailors and called our kids the worst things you could imagine. Imagine middle aged women calling out freshman and taunting them with violent phrases full of curse words. Sad thing is that it only gets worse. The police department in their town filed a formal complaint against the school because of how the district promised the police something when a bunch of the kids were caught drinking and the school promised action and none came because they were all football players... Hell their principal put his hands on a kid from our school at a basketball game (one that had a brawl too) recently.
Interestingly enough although I now have a deep seated hatred of their HC and town in general it works out very well for us. When you ask one of the kids why they are working so hard this off season they just say "so we can beat XXX by 50 this year." =)
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Post by bobgoodman on Mar 2, 2009 17:22:04 GMT -6
Heh...for a second just now I misread the topic as "Chemistry in your conference or religion?", or, "Chemistry in your conference, or religion?"
But that's not as bad as earlier in the day, when I read "Chemistry" literally, thinking it had to do with interscholastic football coaches teaching the subject or their players taking it. Hey, it's what's on my mind...I'm a Ph.D. biochemist who's done some college teaching and HS tutoring, and need work badly.
But now that I'm reading it...k, are you sure that's a school on your schedule? Just because your team bus parked in the closest lot, maybe you should've looked for the school across the street instead of walking past the guard tower on your side.
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Post by k on Mar 2, 2009 18:17:22 GMT -6
But now that I'm reading it...k, are you sure that's a school on your schedule? Just because your team bus parked in the closest lot, maybe you should've looked for the school across the street instead of walking past the guard tower on your side. Funny thing is before I knew the culture of the team and the school I was offered a teaching job there. I thank god every day that I didn't take the offer.
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Post by groundchuck on Mar 2, 2009 21:51:24 GMT -6
I would say there is a mutual respect between all of us.
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Post by phantom on Mar 2, 2009 23:06:25 GMT -6
With one notable exception we get along fine.
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Post by seacret on Mar 3, 2009 13:27:43 GMT -6
In our Conf. most head coaches try hard to be politically correct and are very friendly to your face. I only wish I could say the same for the assistant coaches.
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Post by coachcreme on Mar 5, 2009 14:39:33 GMT -6
This is a funny one here...I coach in conference that I played in at a rival school that I played at. And a lot of the coaches are like High school girls, its like the in crowd of coaches and the not. All type of rumors and you name it sad.....
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Post by kross80 on Mar 6, 2009 10:10:08 GMT -6
Very fortunate, all but about one coach every coach will help each other out. That one guy is a good guy just at a private school and the rest of us are public, no recruiting budget. LOL
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Post by newhc on Mar 6, 2009 20:03:21 GMT -6
Hey Coaches,
I have been in two environments: 1. All the HC in the region worked together, and helped each other. I have had other programs open there doors to me and be willing to share their secrets. We also had a Coaching Association where we meet at least once a month. 2. I have only encountered other HC's at other sporting events and it is not extremely friendly. I think it doesn't have to be that way. No one goes out of there way to help even if you ask. I am not quite used to that. I understand that you may beat me (Everybody did) but I am a coach just like you. Be willing to help the next man out!
Just My .02.
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Post by jml on Mar 8, 2009 14:06:23 GMT -6
I would say we are cordial, but would kick each others ass if we could.
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Post by thakatalyst on Mar 8, 2009 20:42:24 GMT -6
JML said it right. We get along fine at clinics and when we see each other in town, but we're all competitors and want to win. I think when you get along with the coaches you see once a year, it makes that game a lot more fun.
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