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Post by hugo on Feb 14, 2009 2:33:55 GMT -6
I know the answer to this depends on alot of things, but here goes my question anyways. All things being considered, let's say you are searching for that first head coaching job and you are finally offered one at a decent school, but you also receive an offer as a GA type position at a BCS school. Which one do you think has the best long term potential?
GA could obviously lead to gettting a head job in high school which you already have on the table, or it could lead to obviously more. I didn't play college, so I don't really have any connections to the college game, so I am thinking that the GA thing might not lead to a college job anyways. What do you guys think?
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Post by touchdownmaker on Feb 14, 2009 7:01:52 GMT -6
Id take the HC gig right now, do that for a few years, then if you are sure you want to coach college, you can apply at small colleges as an assistant.
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Post by kylem56 on Feb 14, 2009 7:03:43 GMT -6
GA job at a BCS school WILL lead to a college job if you want it to, maybe not at BCS level but at some college level as long as you do your best. Not every High school HC has BCS school experience on their resume and that would certainly set you apart from many candidates. But I dont know your situation (financial, family, etc) so whether or not working long hours for nothing is feasible for you.
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Post by John Knight on Feb 14, 2009 7:32:30 GMT -6
I am not sure what your long term plans are, but I regret not trying to coach in college when I had the chance. That will always be on your resume and the connections you make will pay dividends for years.
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Post by CoachDaniel on Feb 14, 2009 8:15:40 GMT -6
If you have the opportunity to be a GA at a BCS school, you need to do it. No question. They're nearly impossible to come by for most of us. You've got a foot in the door at the college level, and can always come back to H.S. with something very impressive on your resume that not many others have. And yes, GA at a BCS school should lead to a college job. Maybe not a BCS school job (though it could, its all about who you know), but something. You won't make any money doing it, but it will be a great experience and I think you'd regret it later.
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Post by phantom on Feb 14, 2009 9:23:24 GMT -6
I know the answer to this depends on alot of things, but here goes my question anyways. All things being considered, let's say you are searching for that first head coaching job and you are finally offered one at a decent school, but you also receive an offer as a GA type position at a BCS school. Which one do you think has the best long term potential? GA could obviously lead to gettting a head job in high school which you already have on the table, or it could lead to obviously more. I didn't play college, so I don't really have any connections to the college game, so I am thinking that the GA thing might not lead to a college job anyways. What do you guys think? No question take the GA job. At worst-at very worst- you get your postgrad work paid for. There's no down side to it (well, other than a three year vow of poverty and no sleep). If you decide that you want to coach in HS the GA job will help. It doesn't work the other way. A HS job will probably not help if you decide that you want to work in college. |
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Post by touchdowng on Feb 14, 2009 12:06:54 GMT -6
GA all the way as long as your lifestyle can mesh with it. You'll be broke but you will be immersed into a situation that cannot be duplicated at the HS level.
If you don't take the GA let me know because I know of some young HS guys that would kill for that opportunity.
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Post by moose18 on Feb 14, 2009 13:18:29 GMT -6
There are only 60 something BCS schools, there are THOUSANDS of HS's....you can always get a HS job, you can't always get a BCS job. Take it and don't look back. You can always return to the HS level, but not vice versa
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Post by brophy on Feb 14, 2009 14:06:22 GMT -6
if you want to be SUCCESSFUL and have opportunities (uh...'do the right thing') you'd take the GA spot.
You'll learn more football in a one season grind as a GA than you would in 20 years as a HS Head Coach (right away).
Being the header is overrated. Learn the game, what it is about (and what its NOT), and you won't be wasting everyone's time when you ARE the head man in charge.
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Post by coachd5085 on Feb 14, 2009 14:34:40 GMT -6
Long term potential for what? That is the critical question that only you can answer. For example, I have listed the resume/career path of a man I worked with at the college level.
Since 1992:
2 years at SEMO
2 years at Hofstra (OC)
1 year at Illinois State (OC)
2 years at Troy
2 years at Nicholls (OC)
3 years at Stony Brook (OC)
4 years at Arkansas State
1 year at Elon (OC)
Just starting at Bryant.
This coach has a wife and two kids. Is this the career path you are looking for? It might be. It might not be.
That said, the GA position is probably the less"forgiving" choice. Take it now, and the odds are such that you can find a similar offer to the one you turned down in the future. Pass up on the GA position, and you probably won't find another one that you will be able to accept.
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Post by hugo on Feb 15, 2009 0:59:16 GMT -6
what about timing of the situations. Might get offered the head job at a decent program first, and may not hear about the GA for a month or later -- may not get it at all just looks like a decent possibility right now. Would feel bad about taking a head job and then leaving two weeks later.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Feb 15, 2009 1:33:41 GMT -6
GA
Opportunity may not present itself again.
I kick myself in the a$$ every day for not taking the one I was offered earlier in my career.
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Post by Coach Huey on Feb 15, 2009 1:43:26 GMT -6
GA Opportunity may not present itself again. I kick myself in the a$$ every day for not taking the one I was offered earlier in my career. I would concur (somewhat) ... had same opportunity years ago - didn't take it. However, more than just one's career must be considered. I declined because, at the time, my wife and I were trying to start a family. She had just taken a job that she really loved. We had college loans that needed to be paid, a new house, and were just barely making it on our current salaries. We had moved several times in the early stages of my career and that also played a factor. At least with those moves, it was within the same state, nothing more than a couple hundred miles. But, with college, well, you may be moving all over the country. We just weren't ready for that then. Do I regret it? Not sure. I mean, I enjoy where I'm at now and my family most definitely loves where we are. I spent time at a D3 and found out that college isn't really very glamorous. So, with that, I don't regret. But, I personally know a couple of coaches that had the same opportunities at about the same time I did back then and they have turned out great careers without too much hassle in moving (so far). A couple of others that did take the 'plunge' are now back in the high school ranks because they weren't so "lucky"... Only you know your current situation and how long you could 'survive' on nothing. My family and I couldn't have gone but maybe a year like that then so I decided that it wasn't worth the risk ... i.e. if I didn't get a paid position within a year I would have to return to high school. Well, at that time I had a prime HS job and I didn't want to risk it and be stuck coming back to HS at a lesser place. That is for you to decide. |
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Post by 19delta on Feb 15, 2009 7:34:55 GMT -6
If you are happily married, I would take the high school gig. Because if you take the GA position, you probably won't be happily married for long... ;D Being a college coach is a lot like being in the army in regards to the fact that there are TONS of guys whose marriages didn't last.
So, if it was me, I wouldn't have even considered the GA position because when I started coaching, I had responsibilities to my wife and kid. But, if you are a young, single guy...heck, I would be all over that GA position!
Someone earlier made the comment that you need to have something on your resume that distinguishes you from everyone else...certainly, a year spent immersed in the football culture at a major university would qualify as that.
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