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Post by dacoordinator on Dec 11, 2008 10:50:40 GMT -6
Im going with Tebow...his numbers arent as good as they were last year but he has done a great job in leading this team... He stated after the Ole Miss game that you wouldn't find a team that plays hard than Florida... and quite frankly it is no arguement other than Oklahoma. Which is why I go with Tebow...but say it will be close with Bradford..or it could be the other way around... Bradford closely followed by Tebow.
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Post by knighter on Dec 11, 2008 10:56:08 GMT -6
Not sure who will win, but I know who got shafted totally.
Shonn Greene- Leading rusher in NCAA, only back with 100+ yards in EVERY game this year. Were Iowa not a 4 loss team he would have been in the mix.
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Post by bigdog2003 on Dec 11, 2008 11:02:44 GMT -6
Tebow, nobody really distanced themselves this year. Plus his TD to INT ratio is something like 30 (passing and rushing) to 2. Bradford and McCoy will take votes away from each other, so it should be Tebow's.
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Post by coachbdud on Dec 11, 2008 11:12:54 GMT -6
Sam Bradford, has the Number 1 team in the country and leading NCAA in TDs
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Post by dacoordinator on Dec 11, 2008 11:17:15 GMT -6
yea... but I agree with Bigdog...I mean Bradford has like 40 TD's to only 6 INT's... but Tebow also has 12 rushing Td's...if he didnt start the season off so slow he would of had 20 and 20 easily again.. I think its going to be a close one between Bradford and Tebow.
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Post by drfootball99 on Dec 11, 2008 11:21:52 GMT -6
Bradford. Best player in college football. They didn't score 60 - 5 games in a row by mistake!!
Then again I could be the winner behind that line!!!!!!
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Post by craines10 on Dec 11, 2008 11:44:26 GMT -6
Bradford because of the basketball scores the team is putting up and the video game stats he has. Best player on the best team, that is usually how it goes. Tebow, good season, but he would have had to match or better last year's unreal season. Sam Bradford and Oklahoma in the national title game over Florida because I believe Oklahoma is just as fast as Florida but more physical.
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Post by htownoc on Dec 11, 2008 12:05:27 GMT -6
How is Graham Harrell not a finalist?
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Post by wingt74 on Dec 11, 2008 12:06:03 GMT -6
My vote would go to Oklahoma guard Duke Robinson
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Post by cqmiller on Dec 11, 2008 12:11:47 GMT -6
Tebow won it when his team had 4 losses... But the RB from Iowa won't win it. I'm going between Bradford and McCoy. That game between them was a shootout! Just don't know if the extra game Bradford got will boost him above McCoy or not.
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Post by ftbll7801 on Dec 11, 2008 12:14:06 GMT -6
YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT Rushing TD
Bradford 2008 302 442 4464 68.3 10.10 77 48 6 9 186.29 65 5
Tebow 2008 174 268 2515 64.9 9.38 70 28 2 15 176.74 564 12
McCoy 2008 291 375 3445 77.6 9.19 91 32 7 20 179.20 576 10
I am a biased OU fan but I would have to say Sam based on 53 TD's to only 6 TO's. That is great production, and man he is so efficient. Not taking anything from the other guys I just think that he is overall the best. People discount his running ability but anyone who has say him evade rushes knows that he can move well to.
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Post by hustleandheart on Dec 11, 2008 12:19:31 GMT -6
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Post by knighter on Dec 11, 2008 12:19:53 GMT -6
Didn't say Greene would win it. He should have at least been invited...IMO
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Post by bigdog2003 on Dec 11, 2008 12:20:43 GMT -6
I still don't understand why they don't wait until after the bowls.
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Post by hustleandheart on Dec 11, 2008 12:23:40 GMT -6
Didn't say Greene would win it. He should have at least been invited...IMO Yeah I agree. Donald Brown wasn't even a finalist for top 3 backs in the nation. |
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Post by knighter on Dec 11, 2008 12:24:04 GMT -6
Agree with you Bigdog, would help settle a few questions
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Post by kboyd on Dec 11, 2008 14:48:20 GMT -6
Hard to vote against Bradford.
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Post by hustleandheart on Dec 11, 2008 15:02:45 GMT -6
Can Tebow vote for himself?
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Post by ccox16 on Dec 11, 2008 15:07:43 GMT -6
yes
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Post by Yash on Dec 11, 2008 15:22:55 GMT -6
I dont think Tebow will win it, but I think he should win it. I think he is the most valuable player in the nation. You take him off of that team and they are a completely different team. you will not find a QB in the nation who has the mentality he does. How many other teams run QB power 5 times a game. I don't care about what kind of offense you are running, you want this kid running the show because of his leadership and toughness. He has the arm, he has the legs, he has the head for it. Will he be a great pro, who knows but in the college game, I take this guy any day. I think Bradford will end up winning the heisman due to his gaudy numbers, but I'll take Tebow to run my team anyday over the other 2.
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Post by jmh21 on Dec 11, 2008 19:04:36 GMT -6
Will he be a great pro, who knows?
He reminds me of a bigger, stronger Steve Young who was also left-handed and a pretty good running QB.
I'd vote for Tebow because the award goes to the most outstanding football player and he's taken the position of college QB to a higher level, even if his numbers are down from last year - his team is in the national title game.
Every year you'll have spread QB's put up great numbers in wide-open offenses, but Tebow is a player that gives his team another dimension with just the threat that he might keep the ball.
I think McCoy is a tough QB, great player and all. But from the defense's perspective, it's one thing when McCoy holds the ball out on the zone-read and a whole other deal when Tebow is doing the same thing.
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Post by oguru on Dec 11, 2008 19:12:34 GMT -6
My vote goes to Tim TD Tiebow. He is a dynamic QB who can run and throw,and should it all year. Yes I know OU put up 60 points in five games but the Big 12 south defenses are not all that great. Compared to some of the SEC defenses.
In my mine not only will Tiebow win the Heisman he will also lead his team to the national title as well.
GO GATORS
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Post by Coach Huey on Dec 11, 2008 19:23:08 GMT -6
when is it a great offense? meaning, if one has poor defensive stats is it because you played great offenses or because you are poor? if one has great offensive stats is it because you are great offensively or because you played poor defenses? what i'm suggesting is that perhaps one could argue that the "poor offenses" of the sec are what's making those defenses look "great". people's perceptions are different and neither side of any arguement will ever feel they are right or wrong. so, is it worth the investment into the arguement? oh, there are 3 sec teams in the top 10 of total defense ... also, 3 teams from the big east. does that mean the big east plays great defense or poor offense?  |
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Post by 19delta on Dec 11, 2008 19:37:00 GMT -6
Not sure who will win, but I know who got shafted totally. Shonn Greene- Leading rusher in NCAA, only back with 100+ yards in EVERY game this year. Were Iowa not a 4 loss team he would have been in the mix. No offense, Coach...but the Tiny Ten blew dog more than usual this year. Greene is a solid player, no doubt, but, given the weak competition, he isn't even the same zip code as the guys who got the invite. Does Greene have the season he had if he played in the SEC or Big 12? I don't think so...and that is taking nothing away from the kid. I just think that there is such a disparity in talent between the Big 10 and the SEC and the Big 12 (and probably the Pac 10) that you really have to take that into consideration for something like the Heisman. |
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Post by pfist12 on Dec 12, 2008 8:02:09 GMT -6
Tebow should win. W/O Tebow Florida's offense philosophy would change drastically.
If you watched the Alabama v. Florida SEC Championship, in the 4th quarter Tebow went around motivating all his teammates and you can just tell his teammates would die for him. Tebow has that factor that makes everyone on his team better. He is a true "leader." Those intangibles cannot be taught. Tebow can ball!!
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Post by struceri on Dec 12, 2008 8:21:47 GMT -6
I'm a huge Gators and Tebow fan and would love to see him win it again but I truly believe it should go to Colt McCoy. He's Texas' leading rusher, they don't have the quality wr's or rb's that OU and UF have and w/o McCoy Texas would probably be 7-5 or 8-4 at best.
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Post by groundchuck on Dec 12, 2008 8:25:29 GMT -6
Not sure who will win, but I know who got shafted totally. Shonn Greene- Leading rusher in NCAA, only back with 100+ yards in EVERY game this year. Were Iowa not a 4 loss team he would have been in the mix. At least Shonn Greene won the Doak Walker lastnight as the top RB in college football. He deseerved that. As for the Heisman if I got to vote I would cast my ballot for Tebow. I just think he does more. More dynamic. Tougher to game plan against. Nothing against Bradford, McCoy or Harrell but Tebow is the greatest thing sinced sliced bread. |
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Post by jw8 on Dec 12, 2008 8:36:40 GMT -6
Bradford may not want to win the award. Tebow's team did not fair well against Michigan last year after winning his. As a coach I would be proud of a player winning such an award....but the constant worrier that I am would like to have a QB play with a chip on their shoulder in the title game after feeling snubbed....lol
Side note: WOW Michigan has taken a major step back this season from that game.
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Post by wiaa3 on Dec 12, 2008 11:12:10 GMT -6
Tebow or McCoy should win it.
Every coach on this site could put up some decent numbers with Oklahoma's offensive line! I have watched probably 5 or 6 games this year and Bradford never got touched once!
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Post by knighter on Dec 12, 2008 11:18:33 GMT -6
19Delta- I disagree with your Big 10 comment. They do not play defense at all in the Big 12 IMO. McCoy and Bradford have gaudy numbers due to this fact.
Can't argue with Tebow. But Greene accomplished something done by no one else this year. 100+ in every game this season..
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