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Post by Coach Bennett on Dec 10, 2008 12:15:44 GMT -6
Any of you tell yourselves you're going to have a limited playbook only to find that this play and that one and this one will attack next week's opponent and so you install it?
Wish I had better discipline or a better initial playbook that addressed a broader range of "what if's."
Do any of you say "I'm only going to have 'x' runs and passes"?
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Post by touchdownmaker on Dec 10, 2008 12:40:50 GMT -6
series, not plays bro.
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Post by htownoc on Dec 10, 2008 12:59:12 GMT -6
We cut our schemes down to seven this year. We teach trap, iso, zone, counter, sweep, midline and veer. We will not add new schemes to this, however we may gameplan things like reverses. We can easily add route combinations if we want, being that we use wristbands. The QB is the only player that must learn the big picture. That said, we added one new route combination all of last season.
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Post by jjkuenzel on Dec 10, 2008 22:32:33 GMT -6
This is my new rule for adding plays during the week. It can only be added if it is a touchdown play. If it is just a nickel and dime play, well there are already got enough of those in the playbook.
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Post by khalfie on Dec 10, 2008 23:23:41 GMT -6
This is my new rule for adding plays during the week. It can only be added if it is a touchdown play. If it is just a nickel and dime play, well there are already got enough of those in the playbook. I'm in complete aggreance... As a matter of fact, I'm only using explosive plays this season... if the plays don't gain more than 15 to 17 yds... i'm not calling it. Hey... Belicheck says you have to call explosive plays to win! That's all I'm calling!
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Post by Coach Bennett on Dec 11, 2008 8:18:55 GMT -6
I hear you coach! Here's an example of something from our season this year: we run a jet-veer scheme. Naturally, when the DE's start widening, we go veer. Well, there are many ways to take advantage of a 5 tech that comes upfield...so, we installed the shovel. By the end of the season I had too many plays to effectively rep, even if on Sunday night I determined "these are the plays we'll use to beat 'x'" this week.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Dec 11, 2008 9:49:25 GMT -6
This is my new rule for adding plays during the week. It can only be added if it is a touchdown play. If it is just a nickel and dime play, well there are already got enough of those in the playbook. That is a great way to put it...This pretty much sums up they way I think about it.. Also, if something is coming in, something is going out- we can only practice so much a week I try to limit my base stuff to 1 of each: Flank play Off Tackle Inside Counter Playaction I don't really see the need to go into a game with 3-4 different flank and 3-4 off tackle plays
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Post by jpdaley25 on Dec 11, 2008 10:14:35 GMT -6
We have very few blocking schemes and we run multiple plays using those schemes. This makes it easy to vary your offense from week to week. We don't introduce new blocking schemes during the season.
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Post by dacoordinator on Dec 11, 2008 11:31:10 GMT -6
The less you put on a player to remember the bette they can focus and the harder they can play... without having to think...simplicity is the best way to go sometimes.
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Post by pegleg on Dec 11, 2008 12:39:11 GMT -6
7 pass concepts
5 quick game passes
5 runs
3 screens
2 formations - motions and ways to change it up, but 2 formations.
thats the entire playbook............
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Post by morris on Dec 11, 2008 20:16:56 GMT -6
DOn Schnake's book "Football's Simple Six" is based on the idea of developing a small base and sticking to it.
Power Counter Trap Toss/Stretch Option Draw
Power and Counter blocked the same way down kick off the OT. Keep it simple.
We are trying to do this now to get a good focus. We are looking to switch what we do and so making sure we have what we need is tough. Another thing to keep in mind is that you do not need a new play but maybe just a different formation. Formations are cheap as far as time and learning.
dcohio: The play you described is what most veer teams call cutback or slant. They have it in their offense for that exact reason. John Curtis tells people that they run it as their starting point before they go inside veer against a team.
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Post by outlawjoseywales on Dec 11, 2008 22:51:35 GMT -6
Khalfie, you made me laugh, that's real cute there. I think that I will only call "explosive" plays too, but I have to be careful because they are so volatile that they might "blow up in my face." Just a thought. OJW
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Post by khalfie on Dec 11, 2008 23:44:13 GMT -6
As long as one person laughs...
I feel my work here is done. ;D
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Post by dubber on Dec 12, 2008 0:07:33 GMT -6
As long as one person laughs... I feel my work here is done. ;D I refuse to laugh, da mn it...... ;D I think the really hard thing for, and it is something I am learning as I go along, is if you try to create a playbook with an answer for EVERYTHING, you'll end up making your kid's heads explode. Offense, unless you just have the horses, should be organic. It should morph around your player's strengths, and have the ability to slightly adjust to take advantage of that one little thing they are doing to throw off your base. Like dcohio said (dear GOD! I could start a ton of sermons like that!).....get the base, and then have the tweaks to attack their overcompensation. If I tried to teach the 4 base plays, and then the 12-15 variations we have for X front, X coverage, X stunt, etc...........I'm not being prepared, I'm being paranoid.
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Post by coachorr on Dec 12, 2008 2:27:11 GMT -6
Run plays: Jet, inside and some outside zone read, speed option, veer, Draw, tap and lead. I wanted to run power and counter, but this is where the cup raneth over.
One screen (Fast screen). I would like to run three or four more, but took too much practice time and eyes began to glaze over
Four pass protections
And Nine to twelve routes.
Seven formations
150 to 180 plays.
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Post by 63razor on Dec 12, 2008 9:42:47 GMT -6
Just a defensive guy reading this board. I read this blog last night and it talks about keeping the defense honest with certain plays so that you can run your base offense. I pasted the blog. smartfootball.blogspot.com/2008/12/florida-gatorurban-meyer-offense.html - 90k - I've had the unfortunate experience in games of being a play or two behind an offensive coordinator. Always seemed like he was a step a head. We made an adjustment to their base and they hit somewhere else because of the adjustment. After reading the article on Urban Meyer I know one of the reasons why I have had that experience. All I can say is I want make that same mistake twice now that I know a little more.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2008 20:45:23 GMT -6
I adhere to the philosophy of Bobby Bowden, I wont allow myself to add a play to the playbook unless I remove one first.
Next year however I'll be adding a few more pass plays, than I usually have on hand
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