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Post by 19delta on Nov 28, 2008 20:30:11 GMT -6
I'm watching some state championship games on TV right now.
The thing is, when you watch the game at home, it seems so easy...you see the coverage, the fronts, and you know the plays that the offense should be running.
I guess what I am saying is that calling the offense seems somehow "easier" from up above than from down on the sidelines. You are removed from the shouting, the crowd noise, the "emotion" of the game...
How many of you guys who call the offense do it from the box versus from the sidelines? Pros/cons of each way?
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Post by groundchuck on Nov 28, 2008 20:33:48 GMT -6
I call it from the sideline b/c I am the head coach and call the plays.
If I were an OC I would think in the booth would be better. Less action and you be more cerebal. You can be a little more emotionally detatched.
But I think you would have to make sure there was excellent communication between you and another coach to get all the personnel groups right....etc, etc.
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Post by coachjaz on Nov 28, 2008 20:33:38 GMT -6
It all depends on personality unless the head coach also calls the plays, then of course he has to be on the field.
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Post by coachjoe3 on Nov 28, 2008 20:38:42 GMT -6
I picked in the box, because that's how I've seen it done in the NFL . . .
No, I just think it's easier for guys to see up there, unless he's also the head coach. In that case I agree, he should be on the sidelines.
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Post by dubber on Nov 28, 2008 20:40:26 GMT -6
I'm a spotter......when I get my shot at OC, I'll be on the box.
The immortal Red Faught could see what all 22 guys were doing from the sidelines, but I can't see if Johnny is in a 3 or a 4i.
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Post by coachtut on Nov 28, 2008 20:45:58 GMT -6
I think calling the game from the box was easier. However, when I do it all over again I am going to take my best position coach and have him be my right hand man. I want to make sure I have the right people on the field in the right situations. Plus it helps to have someone on the field with the phones on that is on the same page as you.
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Post by eric58 on Nov 28, 2008 20:51:07 GMT -6
I agree with "groundchuck" on communication. You need someone on the sideline if your not that can handle all that kind of stuff. I was on the sideline and I had to be there because we were a new staff and the other coaches didn't know to much about the offense we were running (Fly/Shotgun Fly offense) I liked the sidelines because I'm also the o-line coach and I could see who got beat or who missed a block right away. The only con this year is that we only had 27 kids and mostly all of them went both ways and I had only 2 o-linemen on the sideline and could make little adjustments . Then it got tougher in the middle of the season when we were down to 21 kids and I had only 1 o-linemen on the sideline. Not only that but I had to make sure my d-line were getting coached up.
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Post by tog on Nov 28, 2008 21:11:37 GMT -6
it depends on what your kids need
this year i (an oc) started out in the box
after a few games we (the hc and i ) came to the conclusion that our issues were not x and o's they were things that I would be able to address and solve on the sideline
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Post by cjkal30 on Nov 28, 2008 23:15:40 GMT -6
I call from the box I think it has its pro's and con's. In the past we only had 4 people on the headset two Def ( the DC and the DB coaches) the HC and ME during Def they were all talking and worried about D but this year we went to a 5 coach system and I had my WR coach on the field and it made it so much easier he was able to help me communicate with my QB and then was able to work with my OLine coach so we could make adjustments. Because of it our offense was much better off. SO if you have good people on the field to help you definately the box is better if not the field!
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Post by saintrad on Nov 29, 2008 0:26:12 GMT -6
As an OC for a triple option team I find it easier for me to get a 'feel for the game' when I am on the sidelines. The OL coach, HC and I can talk quickly about how to fix things when we are on the sideline. Now, if I was a spread coach again then I would go up top so I can see coverages better.
Here is our sideline set-up:
HC watches play flow.
OC - I watch playside reads (keep and pitch)
OL - He watches backside from OC to OT
DC - Watches LBer flow/blitzes
DB - He watches the FS for us to see when he is coming down hard into the alley.
DL - Watches interior surge
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Post by coachcoleman on Nov 29, 2008 1:37:21 GMT -6
I to am a spotter and work from the box, I relay the information that i am seeing i.e. front, field boundary trends, etc. We work together and come up with the next series as we go. There are times when i call 4 or 5 plays in a series, and there are other times that i only relay information.
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Post by 1ispread on Nov 29, 2008 8:52:40 GMT -6
Box. I see & feel the game better from upstairs. The years I have been the O-line coach/OC I am on the sidelines. O-line coach needs to be on the field IMO.
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Post by optiononme on Dec 1, 2008 12:15:51 GMT -6
As far as getting a flow for the game, I would prefer to be on the field and also to communicate with my offense. Like others have said, it is imperative that you have a quality person on the field. I would like calling plays from box better if I had full autonomy over the call. Every so often my head coach interjects which is fine, but have something ready to replace the call I gave you. It is helpful to have the OL coach on the sideline.
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Post by coach5875 on Dec 1, 2008 13:03:11 GMT -6
Box......
I have a good OL coach and a WR coach who do a great job of making adjustments....
I have a better feel for the entire picture from upstairs......
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Post by gac8666 on Dec 1, 2008 21:42:30 GMT -6
I think the two keys are A. Are you the head coach? B. Do you have position guys that can get personell groupings if your upstairs... and if your down stairs can that relay the informaiton you need downstairs quickly and efficently.
I have been on the field, and I really hated it. I couldn't see alot, and as a young coach im still learning what to look for, and how to see 22 players and see multiple things at one time. My HC seems to see everything happen all at once, every players, assignment, coverage and blitz and im not at that level yet. But now im up in the box and I love it. Easier to see and communicate.
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Post by cltblkhscoach on Dec 4, 2008 21:35:51 GMT -6
I tell you, this past year I was an OC on the Varsity for the first time and I was on the field. I was JV OC previous five years and never had an issue on the field, but Fridays was a whole different story. I felt I had to be on the field because I didn't have anyone who I could really trust to relay any information I needed to from the box. If I can find someone this offseason, I would love to try calling it from the box as we are a spread team - it's just hard to see the whole field and coverages from the sideline.
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Post by darthappy on Dec 5, 2008 10:05:52 GMT -6
I have been the OC/QB coach for the last five years....the last 2 in the box.....I have a tremendous receivers coach that I send the play and other info to the skill kids....I am also connected to the o-line coach...we talk about the run game and adjustments we think need to be made...the reason the head coach moved me upstairs in the first place was to separate myself from my son...our QB.....he was a big time gamer....would trip his mother rounding 3rd base if she was the winning run....emotions ran high and we had our battles from time to time his junior year.....I moved up last year and things went smoothly.....he and the receivers coach had a great relationship....and I could still talk to him if I needed to....but from a distance...being in the box definately takes a lot of emotion out of the game...but I sometimes fell like I am not feeling the "flow" of the game.....if you have been on the sidelines you will know exactly what I am talking about
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