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Post by tentboy on Nov 13, 2008 12:04:09 GMT -6
I am thinking of going with a 4-2-5 defnese next year becuase of personal. What are some strengths and weaknesses you have gone through if any of you run it?
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Post by outlawjoseywales on Nov 13, 2008 12:54:24 GMT -6
Tentboy, there are all kinds of 4-2's out there. First play you should look, or the first to talk to is Brophy. Although he is a very unusual character, he is an excellent and successful coach. sitekreator.com/brophy/main_page.htmlOther 4-2's are from the "G" defense, and some are a 4-3 with a Nickel in place of the Sam or Will. My ideas came from my early years with the old 6-2/6-1 Invert defense of the late 1970's. Combined with some things I learned from Brophy along with 4-3Miami line rules. Kinda' nuts I know, but aren't we all? OJW |
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Post by airraider on Nov 13, 2008 21:59:27 GMT -6
Please excuse my ignorance.. but I saw the "G" being discussed in talks about C.W. Post.. what sets the "G" apart from other 44 or 425 defenses?
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Post by ccox16 on Nov 13, 2008 22:07:49 GMT -6
now excuse mine but what exactly is the "G" defense?
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Post by airraider on Nov 14, 2008 8:11:16 GMT -6
Come on you guru's.. fill us in..
I am getting ready to purchase 7 videos on C.W. Post's 44 defense.. Just want to make sure the "G" isnt some term for the Gay Defense or something.. lol
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Post by outlawjoseywales on Nov 14, 2008 8:29:19 GMT -6
Airraider, said
"I am getting ready to purchase 7 videos on C.W. Post's 44 defense.. Just want to make sure the "G" isnt some term for the Gay Defense or something.. lol"
;D
That has got to be right!
That is too funny, Vass will love this one.
OJW
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Post by brophy on Nov 14, 2008 9:21:52 GMT -6
what sets the "G" apart from other 44 or 425 defenses? alignment.  and being really gay.one man's 42 is another's 44, which is someone else's wide-tackle, etc...... Before you 'pick a defense', you should figure out what you want it to DO first. The defense you end up with will be whatever you want to call it. |
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Post by sbv on Nov 14, 2008 9:33:37 GMT -6
I like the defense in brophy's bottom right corner, are least he looks PHYSICAL and prepared to PUNISH or BE PUNISHED.
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Post by PSS on Nov 14, 2008 9:33:38 GMT -6
Please excuse my ignorance.. but I saw the "G" being discussed in talks about C.W. Post.. what sets the "G" apart from other 44 or 425 defenses? alignment. and being really gay.one man's 42 is another's 44, which is someone else's wide-tackle, etc...... Before you 'pick a defense', you should figure out what you want it to DO first. The defense you end up with will be whatever you want to call it. Let me add, you might want to make sure you have the personnel to run whatever defense you chose. Brophy stated #1- what are you facing every week and will the defense you pick have easy adjustments for for your kids to formations, motions, etc. Then as I stated, you need to make sure that you will have the athletes to put on the field to execute the defense. |
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Post by airraider on Nov 14, 2008 9:38:34 GMT -6
I like the subjects covered in these videos.. we ran a 4-2-5 the last 4 or so weeks.. I want these videos to serve as teaching tools for my coaches..
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Post by brophy on Nov 14, 2008 9:47:46 GMT -6
I like the subjects covered in these videos.. we ran a 4-2-5 the last 4 or so weeks.. I want these videos to serve as teaching tools for my coaches.. did you buy them already, or have you looked at the Lufkin video series? I am thinking of going with a 4-2-5 defnese next year becuase of personal. What are some strengths and weaknesses you have gone through if any of you run it? PS - there are over 50 threads in the defense section about how folks run their different types of "nickel". You might have to dig, but look up PSS/wolfdc, Vass, Bark77, Outlawjoseywales, etc.....tons of stuff (video, links, pics, articles) |
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Post by airraider on Nov 14, 2008 10:45:18 GMT -6
I like the subjects covered in these videos.. we ran a 4-2-5 the last 4 or so weeks.. I want these videos to serve as teaching tools for my coaches.. did you buy them already, or have you looked at the Lufkin video series? I am thinking of going with a 4-2-5 defnese next year becuase of personal. What are some strengths and weaknesses you have gone through if any of you run it? PS - there are over 50 threads in the defense section about how folks run their different types of "nickel". You might have to dig, but look up PSS/wolfdc, Vass, Bark77, Outlawjoseywales, etc.....tons of stuff (video, links, pics, articles) I requested a purchase order on them already.. I have heard that the series does a great job with practice video with drills and such.. I would try to trade for them, but its not on my dime.. and might be hard to trade for all 7 videos.. I have viewed the Todd Quick previews and they are decent.. a little too advanced for us.. too much on different pressures and not enough on the bare bone basics.. |
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Post by 4-2-5 on Nov 15, 2008 11:12:50 GMT -6
Virgina Tech still runs a form of the G. When talking to there staff the "G" front means that you are covering the G. The front is 7, 3, 2i, 5. The LB are in a 40 and 20.
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Post by cpike018 on Nov 17, 2008 13:31:53 GMT -6
I really like the CW Post videos I think they do a very good job with them
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Post by phantom on Nov 18, 2008 20:41:35 GMT -6
Virgina Tech still runs a form of the G. When talking to there staff the "G" front means that you are covering the G. The front is 7, 3, 2i, 5. The LB are in a 40 and 20. Their front hasn't changed much but they do play a lot more 2-safety looks. They have the same problem as us- they don't see as much 2-back offense so they can't play their trademark Robber coverage. |
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Post by ocinaz on Nov 19, 2008 16:59:54 GMT -6
I know there were some CW Post stuff floating around awhile back..I know I have those at home, if anybody would like them, shoot me a PM...
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Post by spreadattack on Nov 19, 2008 19:05:39 GMT -6
what sets the "G" apart from other 44 or 425 defenses? alignment. and being really gay.one man's 42 is another's 44, which is someone else's wide-tackle, etc...... Before you 'pick a defense', you should figure out what you want it to DO first. The defense you end up with will be whatever you want to call it. Ha I'm always a fan of an Arrested Development reference, though I never thought I'd see a defense compared to Tobias |
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Post by bigdog2003 on Nov 19, 2008 20:03:06 GMT -6
South Carolina runs a 4-2-5, try to get some film on them, they were 3rd ranked defense in the country until the Florida game.
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Post by ocinaz on Nov 19, 2008 21:56:17 GMT -6
After looking over what I have, it's a defensive playbook, I think from 1999, not %100 sure though...Just shoot me PM if you would like it, don't worry about trading, I will give it away....
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