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Post by piquaindian on Nov 5, 2008 22:22:57 GMT -6
There is a local high school job open that I wouldn't mind applying for.
The only thing is, I am not sure if I'd be wasting my time or not. I have been a youth coach since 2001 and that's the highest coaching level I have.
Would it be a waste of my time?
How do most program work, does the HC select his coaches? I'd want to get rid of everyone and get my own staff.
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Post by CoachCP on Nov 5, 2008 22:29:32 GMT -6
I've seen a youth coach turn into a varsity defensive coordinator, that's the highest I've ever seen. He struggled his first two years but turned out fine.
You probably can't fire the whole staff as many are probably teachers who have a lot of pull for whatever reason.
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Post by touchdownmaker on Nov 6, 2008 4:10:28 GMT -6
If they dont come after you, its probably a waste of time. That said, apply anyhow, the interview experience will be good for you.
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Post by fatkicker on Nov 6, 2008 7:34:49 GMT -6
as said above...
probably very little shot at getting this job, but if they give you an interview, it would be great experience.....
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Post by phantom on Nov 6, 2008 10:25:50 GMT -6
There is a local high school job open that I wouldn't mind applying for. The only thing is, I am not sure if I'd be wasting my time or not. I have been a youth coach since 2001 and that's the highest coaching level I have. Would it be a waste of my time? How do most program work, does the HC select his coaches? I'd want to get rid of everyone and get my own staff. I'd echo the others who said that the experience of the interview would be helpful in the future. You likely do not have a chance but if you do well you may get a shot at an assistant's job. Your post shows that you're aware that youth experience may not help much if your goal is a HS HC job. |
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Post by jgordon1 on Nov 6, 2008 14:07:09 GMT -6
I have had three interviews in the past eight years so far, and not to be discouraging, I find that most schools want to hire someone that "fits" with what they need on a macro level. Football is only a small piece of what is on the principals plate. Meaning, if they need a chemistry and a math teacher, they will hire the best football coach who fits this bill. I do not blame the admin for doing this as having a strong fb coach in a school can be part of a culture a school is trying to build. Now, if a PE job is open and if you are a PE guy, you better be "butt" buddies (as a previous article said) with the Ad and/or principal.
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Post by touchdownmaker on Nov 6, 2008 14:16:17 GMT -6
I heard repeatedly that I did not have the experience and many told me that I was never going to be a header because of it. Sooner or later you land the job. Just do not ever give up. Sometimes folks give up just when that opportunity is there. One piece of advice, coach hard wherever you are and keep some of your career ambitions a secret.
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Post by pantherpride91 on Nov 6, 2008 14:30:48 GMT -6
I wouldnt say that you do not stand a chance if the school does not come and get you. Everyone has to get started somewhere and ADs/admin understand that...I have talked to many young HCs who simply applied for a job and got it. The biggest thing I have been told when it comes to looking for an HC job is that you can not be "choosey". By this they mean you can not look at a program and say I am not going to apply there because they have never won or have no tradition. If you go there and have a couple winning seasons and maybe a playoff run or two than you can start to be a bit more picky. You may find you get to a school that a good run of athletes for a couple years and the rest of league is down. Next thing you know schools are looking for you. I have talked to a few guys where that has happened...
One piece of advice I would give would be to get involved with your local coaches association. If you do have a local one than get with the state coaches association. We have local meeting here and they are a great place to meet coaches and new contacts. If a local coach shows up on your resume and he is well respected or known than that could really give you a leg up.
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Post by Bill Vasko on Nov 6, 2008 21:08:18 GMT -6
You can at least get your name out there so that people know who you are. Plus, as others said, you can never have enough interview experience.
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Post by ajreaper on Nov 6, 2008 21:20:40 GMT -6
In my area if a youth guy even got an interview they'd likely string up the administration- if that was the extent of his experience.
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Post by buck42 on Nov 6, 2008 21:24:38 GMT -6
It is not a waste of time if you get an interview...I applied and interviewed for who knows how many jobs...a lot of them I did not think I truly had a chance but I wanted the experience...I am to the point know where I feel that all I need is an interview and I will truly have a shot...
I was out of the game for two years, came back as a volunteer coach and then relocated after being appointed the DC...before the season even started I applied for a head job, just really wanting to get an interview to get some of the rust of the interview process...well...I got the job...I went from pretty unknown in the area to getting the job in a situation that I did not think I had a chance...
I did not take the job because they did not have a teaching position for me at the school (failed to mention this during the interview process) but the confidence that I know have in the interview made all the other experience certainly NOT a waste of time...
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