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Post by realdawg on Oct 23, 2008 7:03:47 GMT -6
Hey guys, I am wanting to learn more about the Flexbone Option Offense. (I really like it, but do not know the ins, outs and adjustments). What schools would be good to visit this off season to learn about it besides Georgia Tech? This could include high schools or colleges.
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Post by jgordon1 on Oct 23, 2008 7:09:56 GMT -6
Where are you located
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Post by pantherpride91 on Oct 23, 2008 7:21:00 GMT -6
flexboneassociation.com is a good site to use
The Naval academy and Air Force have been running it forever and from what coaches on our staff said they are very accommodating
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Post by wiaa3 on Oct 23, 2008 8:51:13 GMT -6
I second the "flexboneassociation" website.
Great place to learn a ton of information.
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Post by rideanddecide on Oct 23, 2008 10:41:10 GMT -6
we moved to flexbone this year from being a multiple I team. Best move we made. Our record doesn't show it, but our offense is better and gaining more yards and scoring more points.
Every lead I got towards more info was from the flexboneassociation. Great spot.
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Post by realdawg on Oct 23, 2008 10:54:36 GMT -6
North Carolina
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Post by Yash on Oct 23, 2008 11:41:38 GMT -6
if you are from north carolina get in touch with wofford college, they give us a ton of stuff
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Post by tog on Oct 23, 2008 11:44:01 GMT -6
coachjd and tribepride here on the board run it well
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Post by olinecoach61 on Oct 23, 2008 11:54:12 GMT -6
I run the flexbone and would be happy to help you out.
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Post by pantherpride91 on Oct 23, 2008 12:01:15 GMT -6
If you are wanting to rup triple and midline out of it we have been successful and I will help out if you need
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Post by midlineqb on Oct 23, 2008 16:01:29 GMT -6
I was a Wishbone/Flexbone coach for about 20 years (retired now but looking to coach again). I would be glad to help anyone with what ever they want to know about the flexbone. Georgia Tech is running it this year with first year coach Paul Johnson. The flexboneassociation.com is a great website to learn more about the option game. |
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Post by groundchuck on Oct 23, 2008 19:55:30 GMT -6
We run it too.
Flexbone site mentioned above is best flexbone resource out there.
coachjd is where we got a lot of our info.
Good offense.
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Post by coachjaz on Oct 24, 2008 22:35:04 GMT -6
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Post by coachjuice on Oct 25, 2008 15:55:08 GMT -6
Just joined the flexbone association about 1 month ago. It is a great site. It has helped our own offense Pistol Flexbone out tremendously. Great place to learn the offense.
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Post by windigo on Oct 28, 2008 10:18:06 GMT -6
We ran flexbone in college and I would love to start running it but we have one of the best tight ends I have ever seen right now. So I'm looking at unballanced flexbone. Does anyone have any resourses.
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Post by pantherpride91 on Oct 28, 2008 10:49:57 GMT -6
We ran flexbone in college and I would love to start running it but we have one of the best tight ends I have ever seen right now. So I'm looking at unballanced flexbone. Does anyone have any resourses. Navy and Air Force run a lot of tight end looks.... We run about 50/50 with a tight end as well....If you want to know about any our stuff I would be more than willing to share |
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Post by realdawg on Oct 29, 2008 7:04:22 GMT -6
Thanks guys for the responses. I was just looking for some suggestions for places I could go and set down and talk to the guys about how to install this for the future. If we were to go to this, we would be starting from scratch, and I mean scratch. So we would need some help with everything, linesplits/stance/spacing, etc....
I hadnt thought about Wofford, last year when I saw them play, they were running the triple and the midline against App State, but were doing it out of gun.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2008 10:11:13 GMT -6
I think Georgia Tech is running it now also
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Post by gregspahn on Oct 29, 2008 13:50:10 GMT -6
Army, Navy, Ga. Tech, Wofford, Colorado College
Air Force has gotten away from the flexbone and moved to a slightly different system.
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Post by coachjd on Oct 29, 2008 15:07:56 GMT -6
Here is a list that I found on the flexbone assoc site with all the college teams that run or run some type of flexbone option.
Lenoir-Rhyne
Washington and Lee
Georgia Tech
Northwood
Brevard College
Cal Poly
Knox College
Springfield College
College of San Mateo
Benedict College
Blackburn College
Bethune-Cookman
Bucknell
Southern Arkansas
Nicholls State
Chowan University
Mesa State
Ripon College
Wofford College
Shorter College
Waldorf College
Virginia Military Institute
Martin Luther College
U.S. Military Academy
U.S. Naval Academy
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2008 19:39:35 GMT -6
Not to be the negative one, but has anyone ever won a national title using it ? I've seen it alot, but I'm not really all that impressed
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Post by utchuckd on Oct 30, 2008 21:32:07 GMT -6
Georgia Southern won a couple with Paul Johnson. They won some before that with Erk Russell and Tim Stowers, not sure if they were flexbone then or not but I would assume so.
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Post by coachjaz on Oct 31, 2008 0:22:04 GMT -6
Russell and Stowers are flexbone guys.
realdawg - My honest suggestion is to get your hands on all the material you can. Use this site and my site/boards. There are a bunch of coaches on there that are much smarter than I am.
Nobody has ever won a DIA national title with it, because its like Nebraska. Go 9-3 once and the boosters want to fire you. It hasnt really been run MUCH outside of the Academies in BCS FBS or whatever its called football.
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Post by saintrad on Oct 31, 2008 12:38:38 GMT -6
Not to be the negative one, but has anyone ever won a national title using it ? I've seen it alot, but I'm not really all that impressed has anyone every lost a national title using it? the answer to both questins is no and to be quite honest a little short sighted as to what the flexbone truely is ... the triple option. The proper question would be more along the lines of can the flexbone be successful in a D1A team (like a BCS conference team)? To say a system of football hasn't won a national title is very base and lacks a good sense of what the system is. Yes, national titles have been won by triple option teams, spread option (basically a modern version of the single wing philosophy), I form, pro-set, west coast, etc...does it make them any more valid? no. |
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Post by midlineqb on Oct 31, 2008 16:53:09 GMT -6
I feel there is going to be a trend moving back to the option offenses and getting away from the spread offense.
If you remember that the wishbone was the forerunner of the flexbone. How national titles did they win?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2008 12:04:51 GMT -6
Not to be the negative one, but has anyone ever won a national title using it ? I've seen it alot, but I'm not really all that impressed has anyone every lost a national title using it? the answer to both questins is no and to be quite honest a little short sighted as to what the flexbone truely is ... the triple option. The proper question would be more along the lines of can the flexbone be successful in a D1A team (like a BCS conference team)? To say a system of football hasn't won a national title is very base and lacks a good sense of what the system is. Yes, national titles have been won by triple option teams, spread option (basically a modern version of the single wing philosophy), I form, pro-set, west coast, etc...does it make them any more valid? no. Whoa easy coach, I 'm just saying I've seen it alot, but never saw a team, win a title with it, that's all. I'm not saying it's a bad offense, or that a Natl. title can't be won with it. Nor am I saying that one never will. I've seen it alot, but I, personally was never that impressed with it, compared to other triple systems, (ex Veer). I can only comment on what I've seen, and am a member on the Flexbone organization webboard. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2008 12:07:30 GMT -6
I feel there is going to be a trend moving back to the option offenses and getting away from the spread offense. If you remember that the wishbone was the forerunner of the flexbone. How national titles did they win? That's alwas going to be the trend in football, what is old becomes new again. 2 Years ago, I never thought I'd ever line up in a Full house T, or a Wishbone. 10 years ago, I thought the Short Punt playbook was a misprint. |
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Post by utchuckd on Nov 1, 2008 16:03:02 GMT -6
personally was never that impressed with it, compared to other triple systems, (ex Veer). How is the flex different than the veer? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2008 17:06:34 GMT -6
personally was never that impressed with it, compared to other triple systems, (ex Veer). How is the flex different than the veer? I'm not sure really,in my opinion the veer seems to hit quicker , and again I've seen some veer teams light it up, just no Flexbone teams yet..it's more personal experience, than anything. ...again I 'd like to state that's just my opinion, based on the flexbone teams, I've seen. I'm all for it, I like the theory, if I thought my kids could pull it off, I'd give it a try...i'm just not sold on it yet |
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Post by groundchuck on Nov 1, 2008 21:18:44 GMT -6
How is the flex different than the veer? I'm not sure really,in my opinion the veer seems to hit quicker , and again I've seen some veer teams light it up, just no Flexbone teams yet..it's more personal experience, than anything. ...again I 'd like to state that's just my opinion, based on the flexbone teams, I've seen. I'm all for it, I like the theory, if I thought my kids could pull it off, I'd give it a try...i'm just not sold on it yet I would explain it as: The flex or flexbone is an off shoot of the wishbone and run and shoot formations. Veer is a triple option play. You can run veer from a number of formations with the flexbone being one of them. |
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