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Post by pantherfb10 on Oct 12, 2008 12:24:37 GMT -6
Wow,what a difference reading daves book made. I implemented the SW after an 0-2 start and our coach said w/e we have nothing to lose were sunk and had given up.We actually had assignements on who to block and quizzed our boys daily and though it took awhile we implemented the sainted 6 in a week. The next three games we won 22-0 30-12 and 27-6.We dropped our last game 24-20 in a heartbreaker,but the other team was better and deserved to win. We found a stud TE and Kicker in our compete drills,a quiet kid who didnt play much,and now hes had 7 rec for 95 yards and 9-12 on XPs. We added some extra unbalanced 8 men on los,and we have rushed for 300+yards in every game. here are some stats.... TB:220 car 1750 yards 14 TDs FB:140 car 1300 yards 11 TDs BB:85 car 1043 yards 6 TDs WB:17 car 156 yard 2 TDs Our passing game still sucks 5-13 for 115 yards,our pass D is really screwing us over but no one passes so . We have rushed for 6,000+ yards this season the SW is like the pytagorean theorum there is no answer!
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Post by coachdoug on Oct 12, 2008 12:44:55 GMT -6
Congratulations, coach - it sounds like you've found a formula that works for you and your team. I am a little curious, though, about your stats - they don't add up. You have one receiver with 7 catches for 95 yards, but your entire team has only 5 catches for 115 yards? You only mentioned the scores to 6 games, and this was just the sixth week of the season, so I assume that you've only played 6 games (with a 3-3 record), and you state that you've rushed for 300+ yards in every game since implementing the SW, but you also state 6,000 rushing yards for the season, or an implausible 1,000 yards per game (including the two games before the SW). If you use the 300+ yards per game stat you reference, that would imply you've played about 20 games so far, which is a longer season than any league I'm aware of. Also, the four position stats only add up to a little over 4,000 yards on about 460 carries. Again, if that's in 6 games, that's an average of about 80 carries per game, which is implausible - and if it did happen should result in over 50 or 60 points per game, but your team only averaged about 25 points in the 4 games you mentioned since implementing the SW.
I'm not doubting your success, but it would be helpful if you filled in the missing blanks so that your stats make a little more sense.
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Post by pantherfb10 on Oct 12, 2008 13:36:49 GMT -6
haha thanks for pointing that out passing should have been 8 rec,just hit wrong button. The 6,000 one is me going a little off 5,000 is probably true though. Believe it or not with 12 min Qs,with hurry up we average 75 snaps a game and we run on 73 of them lol. we hit 450 yards on the ground once, so lets see 200+215+300+350+275+400+450+415+285+315= about 3700 yards a season subtact about 50 from each. im sorry for the mistakes but im so high about this right now i didnt think thank u for pointing that out though
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Post by coachdoug on Oct 12, 2008 14:02:30 GMT -6
Wow - even with 12 minute quarters, getting 75 plays off a game is phenomenal. So, you've played 10 games so far then? When did your season start? How did y'all do in the 4 games you didn't give us scores for?
In any event, it sounds like you're doing a great job. Congrats again, coach.
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Post by pantherfb10 on Oct 12, 2008 14:35:55 GMT -6
thank you sir, how about your team,yes were done with reg season. started aug 17th first game had last game yest. 1 week off til bye. scores this year L 16-7 L2-0 W22-0 W 30-12 W 38-7 W 32-12 L 24-20 L 14-13 W 30-6 W 42-18. We are the 5 seed for playoffs playing the team that beat us by 1
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Post by pantherfb10 on Oct 12, 2008 14:39:03 GMT -6
we had a mon game and a friday game jus fyi
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Post by coachdoug on Oct 12, 2008 14:50:18 GMT -6
That's an early season. You lost a game 2-0? I lost by that score once in high school - that's a tough way to lose one. Y'all have had a great turnaround. Good luck in the playoffs - I think you'll do well.
My team is 3-3 after six games. It looks like we'll still make the playoffs, but we have underachieved so far. Our scores have been W 12-0, L 28-6, W 29-16, L 13-12, W 28-8, L 12-7. We really should be 5-1 - we lost on late scores in both of our close losses. Yesterday we gave up the winning score with 26 seconds left in the game. Uggghh.
We'll get a rematch with one or more of the teams we lost to in the playoffs - I like our chances in any of those matchups. We'll see what happens.
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Post by pantherfb10 on Oct 12, 2008 16:21:13 GMT -6
that sucks howd u lose the two close ones? we lost the 2-0 game on a sweep in the endzone which our guy ran out of room and got stopped with no time left (HC's call). The other one we battled back but simply couldnt beat them
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Post by coachdoug on Oct 12, 2008 17:58:40 GMT -6
The first one (13-12) was to a team running the SW - similar to Dave's, but I don't think it was quite his version. We were prepared for it, but on their first possession our guys lost track of the ball and gave up a 60-yd TD run. We had a drive stopped on 4th down at the one yard line - we had a major coaching error on 2nd down - we called a play to the left, but all the personnel we needed to run the play successfully were on the right. Stupid on our part. We did manage to score in the second quarter using our best gadget play - from shotgun we send the QB in motion out wide, the RB takes the snap, steps forward then throws (backward pass) to the QB out in the flat. The QB then throws deep to the WR, who is wide open. The safety did come over and got his hands on our receiver, but he broke the tackle and scored. 6-6 at halftime. In the 3rd quarter, we drove 57 yards in 11 plays - we scored on a 15 yard pass. We're up 12-6. They drove about 50 yards to start the 4th quarter. This time they went for one - their QB scrambled for a while before finally hitting their receiver in the end zone. That put them ahead 13-12. We had one more drive in the 4th quarter - we made it down to their 25. We threw a long pass that hit our receiver in the hands at the 4, but he couldn't hang on. It was a tough catch, but if he makes it, we almost certainly win the game. Then we came up about half a yard short on 4th down. Missing the PATs just killed us.
Yesterday we should have won easily. We should have been up 3 TDs to nothing at the half, but turnovers killed us. We put the ball on the ground SIX times in the first half and lost half of them. Our first drive started on our own 1 after a tremendous punt by them - we drove over 60 yards before losing our first fumble. Our defense was stopping them cold, but right before halftime, they connected on two long passes, the second one of which score a TD with 15 seconds left in the half. In the second half we continued moving the ball, but came up short on a 4th down inside their 20 on our first drive. Then our defense let them get a bunch of first downs before finally getting a turnover inside our 10, but they chewed up the clock. There was less than 6 minutes left in the game when we got the ball back. We drove from our own 8 to about their 30 before we were facing a 4th & 10. We called our last timeout to run the same gadget play - QB motion, throw to QB in the flat who throw deep. There was a ton of wind in our face and with the timeout, I didn't think there was a chance in the world that it would work. It did - we scored. Our PAT kick missed, but we got another chance when they roughed, so we ran it in from the 1 and a half. With 2:53 left, we were up 7-6. On the kickoff, the ball bounced around with 3 of our guys around it - I have no idea how we didn't recover it. A few plays later one of our DBs stepped in front of a receiver and had the pass hit him in the hands at this chest, but he dropped it. We had them 4th and long around the 30, but for some reason we didn't put any pressure on the passer who took forever to find a receiver before finally finding a receiver who was being loosely covered by the corner and was right where our safety should have been - I'll have to see the video to see what happened to our safety. Anyway, they scored with 26 seconds left to win 12-7. Uuugggghhh!!!
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Post by pantherfb10 on Oct 12, 2008 19:24:06 GMT -6
the fumbling reminds me when i was a QB in hs and we fumbled 7 times haha
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Post by raiderpirates on Oct 13, 2008 23:47:09 GMT -6
We started going unbalanced,(not technically a true unbalanced, it's a small guy playing the extra T) but it's been getting us more yards than the opponent every time. Were 1-1 with it including a 2 pt loss and we were 0-4 before then.
It really helps simplify running. We've outgained teams with it by good margins.
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Post by coachbiggers on Oct 14, 2008 7:02:15 GMT -6
panthersfb,
Do you coach in md?
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Post by pantherfb10 on Oct 14, 2008 17:11:19 GMT -6
no sir in virginia i used to live in MD though
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Post by coachbiggers on Oct 17, 2008 7:44:31 GMT -6
Oh ok, just wondering because you have the exact same scores for all the games except 1 or 2 as another team in the league I coach not to mention the first two games the loses were 16-7 and then 2-0. And the team ran a pro offense but then I noticed the switch. I was actually at the 2-0 nothing game and coincedently enough that safety happened the same way too. We also played a team that ran the single wing and it was a beast to stop until halftime we made adjustments to what the other team was doing and won that game 24-20 and it came down to the wire and it was a heart breaker for the other team because they played their hearts out but in the end we just had too much fire power. And this weekend we play their other team (two in same organization) so im curious to see what they are going to do. I don't think they have the size to do what their counter parts did but we will see! I have kids in Va that play, where do you coach?
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Post by raiderpirates on Oct 22, 2008 0:55:00 GMT -6
We won a scrimmage game 2-0 on a safety near the end of the half(game).
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Post by ampipebulldog on Oct 23, 2008 15:14:37 GMT -6
strange math
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