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Post by joelee on Oct 8, 2008 12:31:19 GMT -6
Do you give any credence to the theory that a pass first offense will lead to an inability to play defense? Especially stopping inside/power running game.
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Post by wingtol on Oct 8, 2008 12:43:11 GMT -6
A team I use to coach for switched to the no huddle spread a few years ago, now this is the largest private school in the city and gets tons of talent, since they have switched they have been labeled as "soft" by many people who have played against them. The D is no where as hard hitting as it use to be and is giving up lots of points in recent games. Do I think it's due to the fact they are spread? No. I think it's because after talking to a Soph who transfered to us from them and asking how much they hit and went full out in practice he said the Varsity hardly ever went full pads. They mostly wore shells and ran plays with no real hitting.
So I would say that the way you practice and get after it is more of a factor than what offense you run. If you aren't physical during the week don't expect to be physical come game time.
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Post by airman on Oct 8, 2008 12:59:57 GMT -6
One thing people forget is often times spread teams use attacking aggressive defenses. they use these blitzing, attacking defenses to creat more opportunities for the offense to get the ball through turnovers. the defense also knows it does not have to be perfect because they know the offense going to score.
I have also noticed that usually running teams which a spread team might have problems with every team has problems with.
If you are facing Joliet catholic il I do not care who your are they are gonig to run the ball on you not matter how tought you think your defense it. Menomonie high school in wisconsin is going to do the same thing. they just dominate all people.
so anti spread passing coaches see this and use this as their example as to why you should nto be a spread team.
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Post by morris on Oct 8, 2008 13:06:42 GMT -6
I will say Joelee your MS has some physical kids. I think there is a certain truth to it but I think it has to do with what you face in practice. If you do not face that physical push then I think it does hurt you some. Some spread teams do not not hav etheir OL go downfield much but more of a set and catch/redirect.
I do not think it is an inablity as much as just not use to it. Its like teams that run the ball 98% of the time have a hard time with pass. It is what you are use to. The coach from Hoover use to say you have to service your defense and let them get after it a few times a week in goaline/power football type stuff.
Sidenote: We face a VERY agressive defense everyday in practice with everyone within about 5-6 yds.
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Post by los on Oct 8, 2008 13:10:37 GMT -6
What is a pass first offense? I think any team that runs the ball inside as part of their offense can be very physical...whether 4-5 wide or 0 wide, lol.....doesn't make any difference....if they work the inside run game in practice...their defense has to be tough as well?
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Post by coachcb on Oct 8, 2008 14:47:45 GMT -6
We have heard this about several of the spread teams we face. We found that they were generally pretty good defensive units; they just spent a lot of time on the field. Their offensive counter-parts were either scoring a lot of points or going three-and-out a bit.
In fact these defenses were nasty in the playoffs. They had so game time experience; they were seasoned and well conditioned.
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Post by morris on Oct 8, 2008 17:41:37 GMT -6
coachcb brings up a very good point. The other thing though is some spread teams use a different style/type of blocking. It is more of a get in the way then push them down the field. The opponents defense is trying to get up the field to create pressure so it changes things a bit. Against a 2 TE power run game you are looking to get a few steps up field. Different mindset in what you face in the blocking schemes and such.
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