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Post by spreadattack on Oct 3, 2008 14:07:02 GMT -6
sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3624265Aaron Rodgers is still banged up so he might not, but I wanted to say congrats to Coach Slack that one of his pupils, 7th round draft choice Matt Flynn, might start. Flynn has beat out Brian Brohm this year for the backup job. Obviously Flynn was a standout at LSU, but Coach Slack obviously wasn't just whistling dixie when he kept mentioning that people (including us on this board!) shouldn't overlook Flynn when it came to evaluating quarterbacks. Obviously no ill wishes to Rodgers (or Brohm, former pupil of another particular poster on this site), but it's impressive for Flynn to just be in this position. If he does play, I hope he does well.
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Post by airman on Oct 3, 2008 14:21:19 GMT -6
interesting thing about flynn is he is not a very good practice player. He is a gamer. He likes the pressure.
the packers kept him based on his preseason play. His practices were not very good. I think if you could combine matt flynn's gamer like, never want to lose attitude with brian brohms smarts you would have the next nfl hall of fame qb.
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Post by brophy on Oct 3, 2008 20:37:43 GMT -6
Darin Slack pupil, Jarrett Lee, is not doing so bad, either
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Post by phantom on Oct 3, 2008 20:50:39 GMT -6
sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3624265Aaron Rodgers is still banged up so he might not, but I wanted to say congrats to Coach Slack that one of his pupils, 7th round draft choice Matt Flynn, might start. Flynn has beat out Brian Brohm this year for the backup job. Obviously Flynn was a standout at LSU, but Coach Slack obviously wasn't just whistling dixie when he kept mentioning that people (including us on this board!) shouldn't overlook Flynn when it came to evaluating quarterbacks. Obviously no ill wishes to Rodgers (or Brohm, former pupil of another particular poster on this site), but it's impressive for Flynn to just be in this position. If he does play, I hope he does well. Congrats, Coach Slack. I don't mean this badly because I like Flynn but as a Packers fan I hope Rodgers is OK because he gives them the best chance to win. I also think that that's in Flynn's best interest because I think that too many young QBs get rushed in the NFL and it stunts their development. IMO the best thing that happened to Rodgers was getting drafted when he did, giving him the chance to learn.
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Post by dsqa on Oct 4, 2008 12:47:22 GMT -6
Chris and brophy, Thank you so much for your incredibly kind acknowledgements. I could not be more proud of Matt's climb to this position. I too, hope he does well. He really is a gamer, and for what its worth, he is actually extremely intelligent. According to McCarthy, one of his strengths was his near perfect checks, calls and reads in the preseason. brophy, I am really excited to see the progress in Andy Hatch and Jarrett Lee both this season. I think LSU has a real shot if those guys keep playing well. They are both very coachable and I have enjoyed working with them. It is important to note here that the regular influence on these guys is one of my staff coaches, Tom Rathmann, who lives in Baton Rouge. Tom is a very talented coach, and does an amazing job with these guys. While the parents and players have pursued us for help, Coach Crowton has been incredibly kind to include us in the process, and that is just another reason I have such respect for him as a man and as a coach. phantom, I could not agree more. I would much rather Matt have more time to get up to speed. I am not sure how this will go. It kind of forces Matt to have sustain his backup position too early. If he struggles, you know Brohm will get his shot. Nothing against Brian, but I am biased on this one. But it is still not exactly how you draw it up Geaux Packers and Tigers. Thanks again gentlemen.
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Post by coachgreen05 on Oct 29, 2008 7:20:17 GMT -6
LOL @ Flynn and Jarrett Lee...both avg at best
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Post by spreadattack on Oct 29, 2008 7:42:57 GMT -6
LOL @ Flynn and Jarrett Lee...both avg at best Thank you for this bit of mature wisdom
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Post by airraider on Oct 29, 2008 7:49:23 GMT -6
LOL @ Flynn and Jarrett Lee...both avg at best Coach, I think that is completely a fanboy post and has no place here.. Coach Slack has worked with these two kids and his comments are from a coaches view. To come on here and bash them based on your probable following of another team is something that coaches should not do. You would not come on here and say those comments about any other coaches' players on here.. so why speak that about a player that one has coached privately?
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Post by phantom on Oct 29, 2008 7:57:21 GMT -6
LOL @ Flynn and Jarrett Lee...both avg at best Coach, I think that is completely a fanboy post and has no place here.. Coach Slack has worked with these two kids and his comments are from a coaches view. To come on here and bash them based on your probable following of another team is something that coaches should not do. You would not come on here and say those comments about any other coaches' players on here.. so why speak that about a player that one has coached privately? Coach, thanks for saying that. I want to remind everybody that this is a coaching site, not a fan site. The moderators here are committed to that to a man. We're all internet coaching site veterans who have seen good sites go bad and it ain't happening here.
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Post by raiderpirates on Oct 29, 2008 11:05:22 GMT -6
Raiders fan here, a good friend from the NOLA area always spoke well of Flynn, a lot of people wanted him to start in place of Jamarcus Russel. In another conversation I mentioned that Flynn might get emergency duty and outplay Russel on the same day. First overall, 32 million, tried to hold out for 60 million, or a seventh rounder who scraps his way up the depth chart?
End of the day, all that matters is W or L, what I liked about Flynn was that even when his numbers weren't great he found ways to win games and get the ball to his players.
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Post by raiderpirates on Oct 29, 2008 15:48:58 GMT -6
Whatn dsqa really helps is that it hones decision making with an armament of techniques for the reads you go through. This means you can maxmize the ability to execute by keeping technique sound. Athletically raw players suddenly accelerate their learning process and drill their way to better performance. This also combines as aspect of visualization, seeing success is being successful in game time and practice.
It's one of the best approaches to the challenge of using technique to match tactics that I've read of when it comes to helping quarterbacks throw the ball, that's what the position is fundamentally about. As players develop command of the game in making decisions it helps them develop other qualities of leadership as well.
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Post by dubber on Oct 29, 2008 16:52:51 GMT -6
LOL @ Flynn and Jarrett Lee...both avg at best 3 guys beat me to it, but this has no place on this forum.
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Post by coachd5085 on Oct 29, 2008 18:36:51 GMT -6
remember coaches...Coachgreen05 is the same "genius" author of the following quotes from other threads :
"Lineman just lazy and want [sic] come off the ball" "but I've been resorting to more I-formation to get the guys coming off the ball"
(I am still waiting to find out what backfield formation has to do with coming off the ball....)
"too lazy to show pass on screens and draws"
and my personal favorite.
"fat boys are lazy and you can't tell me any different..."
Soooo..i wouldn't get to worked up over this, considering the source.
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Post by levydisciple on Oct 29, 2008 19:59:10 GMT -6
That also has no place on the forum.
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Post by dsqa on Oct 30, 2008 7:38:30 GMT -6
This is why I so enjoy spending time on this board. It is a reasonably humane experience with a chance to communicate and help.
Don't beat on coachgreen too hard, he has his opinion, it is all good. But I respect greatly the integrity of this board.
Jarrett is a freshman who is getting better every week, and we will do all we can as he wishes us to assist him.
You all know I do not typically respond to this stuff, but when it comes to Matt, the record is tilted to the grossly uninformed, and I do feel a special need to assist in setting it straight with him.
I guess every player is average until you have the privilege of interacting with them to make them better. As a coach, when a player responds to input and improves, they cease to be an average player to you. It is that really cool mix of investing on your end, and the kid responding and improving that leaves you very proud to have worked with him. The stats may not bear it out, but stats have very little to do with what makes a QB exceptional.
BTW, Matt Flynn is exceptional, and given time, he will prove it.
One story, since this dead thread seems to have been re-energized for a day. And I won't say post any more on it after this.
One of the most important attributes an exceptional QB can possess is the drive to compete, not the desire to win mind you, but the will to win. Matt spent four years behind Jamarcus competing, and cultivating this already pent up passion. We all know the history of 9 games, injured, last minute wins, and a crystal ball on the podium, and beating out a second round pick, slated to go first round, in preseason camp (how often does that happen?)
But that is not the story, in my facility in Orlando, we have a competition board for a throwing challenge using our net system, etc. There are some recognizable names on the board, and some no names, but it just a fun post workout challenge for guys. It takes 20 seconds to complete a circuit, and it is all go with 6 drops and throws of various kinds. It gasses you! Believe me, I am reminded of the hastily fading dream in my life when I do it.
Matt came in for his final 2 hour workout before pro day at LSU, and declares, I am not leaving until my name is on top of that board. He didn't want to do anything else.
Now, understand, this is not a big deal, it is just a challenge board, and he was already on it from previous efforts. But it didn't matter, he wasn't first.
Now the challenge isn't easy by any stretch, especially as you fatigue. He ran circuits on that course for 2 hours straight and broke every time on the board. Now, why is that important, so he could set records? No, it goes to character. No one knew, ESPN wasn't there, I was, it was nothing. But for him, going to the NFL wasn't about appearances, or "tweaking" mechanics in a workout, or doing just enough - he does things like taking a pointless, throw away competition and he decided to dominate it.
When you think about who you want playing for you when the game is on the line, don't look for the kid with all the pedigree and outward appearance, look for the kid who when he is losing a game of checkers to you, won't get up, won't eat, won't leave, but he just keeps smiling respectfully and says, "again." There is nothing average about that kid.
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Post by amikell on Oct 30, 2008 11:30:03 GMT -6
Coach Slack, That is a GREAT story.
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Post by levydisciple on Oct 30, 2008 13:00:23 GMT -6
And that's why I play hard in gym, despite being yelled at for my effort by all the so-called "athletes."
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