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Post by wingtol on Sept 23, 2008 17:49:53 GMT -6
So I was thinking after reading on a local board about the level of coaching from state to state....how good are the guys you coach against. And maybe saying how good are they isn't the best way to put it but what kind of background's do they have? I know including our scrimmages we coach against two guys who have been cord./ast at the D2/3 level, a guy I coached with who was national coach of the year in 2000, a guy who has a couple rings from Mt. Union and another guy who played D2 in a pretty good conference( I know playing exp doesn't directly relate to coaching ability but just throwing out the football back ground). Those guys also have solid staffs that make a big difference. Just currious to see what other people are coaching against out there.
We are in the smallest class in state so were not runnin with the big dogs where you prob have a bit of a difference.
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Post by MaineManiac on Sept 23, 2008 18:26:33 GMT -6
We have two D-1 assistants as HC's in our league, a bunch of guys that have D2 and D3 experience, and the rest of us minions followed a tract of working our way up the HS ladder.
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Post by coachcb on Sept 23, 2008 18:38:04 GMT -6
Well, I coach with a fellow who has 8 years of experience coaching at the D2 level, but I coach against another who wears his hat "gangsta style" and with his pants worn down around his ass.
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Post by cmow5 on Sept 23, 2008 18:46:24 GMT -6
but I coach against another who wears his hat "gangsta style" and with his pants worn down around his {censored}. I am not trying to be a smartass but can this guy coach and is there any direct correlation between hip hop clothing and the inability to coach? |
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Post by coachcb on Sept 23, 2008 18:57:23 GMT -6
but I coach against another who wears his hat "gangsta style" and with his pants worn down around his {censored}. I am not trying to be a smartass but can this guy coach and is there any direct correlation between hip hop clothing and the inability to coach? Well, we beat them by 41 points. So, I'd say there's a correlation; the lower your pants are, the lower your ability to coach is. I think the "gangsta style" cap is very specific to the inability to coach special teams. They fumbled the ball on every phase of special teams and we returned a couple punts for scores. |
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Post by cmow5 on Sept 23, 2008 19:05:10 GMT -6
I am not trying to be a smartass but can this guy coach and is there any direct correlation between hip hop clothing and the inability to coach? the lower your pants are, the lower your ability to coach is. lol, thanks my pants will be "Urkel like" tommorow.  |
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Post by jgordon1 on Sept 23, 2008 19:33:16 GMT -6
I'm not sure that the amount of years one spends at a the college level necessarily translates into being a great HS coach. the game, especially the hashes and the kids are very different. I coached 10 years at the !aa level(when it was called 1aa) I came to to hs as a coordinator. oh I knew my stuff but guess what, I couldn't get passed along to the kids actually running the defense. The coaches in our league I guess are good. most teams seem well prepared and have a thought out game plan ready for you. the only ones I really question are the 3-3 guys that just guess at the blitzes and have their guys out of position. Played 3 games in a row against it and we are seeing it again this fri
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Post by levydisciple on Sept 23, 2008 20:45:22 GMT -6
the lower your pants are, the lower your ability to coach is. Thanks, coach, now I gotta clean up all this Pepsi I just split laughing my ass off. |
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Post by coachsky on Sept 23, 2008 21:19:27 GMT -6
We have some pretty good coaches in our league.
A lot of them coached under a "legend". A guy who won state championships at a few different schools. We have some guys who consistently get to the final eight every year, they get their without many D1 kids.
We have some good up and comers who have recently moved in. Here's how I view our league; we have 12 teams in two divisions:
2 Coaches - 90% playoffs - Ussually 2 or 3 rounds possible semis
2 Coaches - 70% playoffs - Ussually 1 or 2 rounds
4 Coaches - 40% playoffs (depending on talent) - Ussually one and out
4 Coaches - 0% chance - play about .350 year after year (partially school situation)
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Post by coachbdud on Sept 23, 2008 21:37:32 GMT -6
well DLS is in our area so one of the best coaches ever is a few miles away.
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Post by mrsixx6 on Sept 24, 2008 11:01:11 GMT -6
I see a good staff or two from time to time. I've got Coach John McKissick at Summerville every year, 550+ wins, winingest football coach on ANY level. We even win sometimes...
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Post by airraider on Sept 24, 2008 18:54:17 GMT -6
the lower your pants are, the lower your ability to coach is. lol, thanks my pants will be "Urkel like" tommorow. I once made the comment that I just cant respect a coach with gold teeth.. Now.. I have his old job.. lol |
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Post by coachgreen05 on Sept 26, 2008 7:09:44 GMT -6
but I coach against another who wears his hat "gangsta style" and with his pants worn down around his {censored}. I am not trying to be a smartass but can this guy coach and is there any direct correlation between hip hop clothing and the inability to coach? lol, thanks my pants will be "Urkel like" tommorow. I once made the comment that I just cant respect a coach with gold teeth.. Now.. I have his old job.. lol what does that have to do with anything,because u were your clothes a certain way...that means u can or cant coach? Ivs seen thugged out staffs, and their kids will kick you azz down here in Florida |
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Post by saintrad on Sept 26, 2008 7:32:47 GMT -6
In our neck of the woods we play teams from the Navajo Reservation, so the level of coaching on those teams will vary greatly from year to year. I can only speak for our own staff as to the level of coaching:
HC 2 yrs JUCO
DC 4 yrs D2 (1 yr all-american)
OC 3 yrs semi-pro (Gulf League - All conference specialist(returner))
OL 4 yrs OL PAC-10 as a player
DL 4 yrs DL BIG 10 (1 yr all american)
DB 4 yrs D2 (3 yrs all conference, 1 yr all american)
Overall we have some serious experience finally here in our littel podunk town and as a staff that has only been together from last season through week 5 of this season, we are doing ok.
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Post by CVBears on Sept 27, 2008 14:00:29 GMT -6
we have a few teams in our area that have absolutely nothing going on in terms of coaching quality. Players just playing with out responsibilities; total lack of discipline. But that is only a couple of teams in our area.
The rest is coached by, I would say, above average coaches, putting work in, trying to tweak what they know to stop the best teams in the league, might not win the talent battle, but may be out-coaching other opponent's and keeping their kids in the game.
There are about five staffs in our area that you need glowing recommendations to even volunteer for the freshmen level or pop warner level. They coach whoever is there and are successful year in and year out regardless of talent. During any given year, I would put these guys up against most any one.
We don't have De La Salle, or Trinity, or South Lake Carroll, etc. All things considered, if the quality coaching average is 5, I'd put our area as a whole around a 6 or 6.5.
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Post by justryn2 on Sept 28, 2008 8:51:45 GMT -6
Let's see; last week with 4 minutes left in the fourth quarter, this team takes a safety to go down by 8. So, its still a one possession game with 4 minutes to play but the team has to free kick from their own 20. Coach sends out his punter but then, just as the kid kicks the ball, the coach calls a time out. To top that brilliant use of a time out, the coach then sends his kicker back on the field and, believe it or not, actually attempts an on-side kick from his own 20 yard line. Remember, at this point it was still a one possession game with nearly 4 minutes left to play.
Needless to say, the other team knew what was coming and recovered the on-side attempt at the 35. With only two timeouts left, the team behind could only stop the clock twice. After that, the team that was ahead was able to keep pounding the ball at the middle of the field and then score with 27 seconds left.
There are many, many other such stories I could share about this same team and their coaching staff. In the past three years they have one exactly 1 football game. Unfortunately, the reason I know these things is because this is the team my son plays for.
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