mrry475
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Vince Lombardi once said, ?A man can be as great as he wants to be. If you believe in yourself !!
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Post by mrry475 on Sept 12, 2008 12:11:07 GMT -6
I was wondering if all schools require you to be a teacher in the school to coach above the pee wee level . I would like to coach at the jr high level in a couple of years and then possibly on to the high school level afterwards . Does anyone know the requirments. I live in Ohio
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Post by kboyd on Sept 12, 2008 13:18:09 GMT -6
I don't know about Ohio but I've coached HS in North Dakota and here in Manitoba and I'm not a teacher. We have 8 coaches on our staff and only one is a teacher.
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Post by eickst on Sept 12, 2008 16:11:20 GMT -6
I'd love to volunteer coach at a HS but I work a 9 to 5  |
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Post by kylem56 on Sept 13, 2008 13:59:10 GMT -6
I have been coaching in Ohio for 3 years now at the varsity level. I am not a teacher and dont plan to be. Only have to be CPR certified, pass background check, and have a pupil activity supervisor permit which is just a 3 hour class you have to go to.
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Post by cmow5 on Sept 13, 2008 23:08:42 GMT -6
Not a teacher and coached 8th grade last year and frosh DC this year. All I had to do was past the back ground check.
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Post by davecisar on Sept 16, 2008 5:50:29 GMT -6
Was offered JH head coaching gig in Omaha a couple years back, was not a teacher.
Teachers however have preference, qualified or not. One JH HC in Omaha is a woman who had never played or coached a down of football in her life, so you have the beaurocratic featherbedding/bungling to deal with in many places.
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Post by tog on Sept 16, 2008 5:53:40 GMT -6
you have to be an employee of the district in Texas
99.9% of the time that means you have to be a teacher
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Post by coachd5085 on Sept 16, 2008 9:02:58 GMT -6
you have to be an employee of the district in Texas 99.9% of the time that means you have to be a teacher Texas is generally regarded as having the best high school football "programs" in the country... I wonder if there is a correllation between this and the district restrictions. For those who have staffs made up of mostly non teaching coaches...where are you located? Here in Louisiana, I believe you can have 2 non faculty coaches on the staff. Now, you don't necessarily have to be ON campus...I preferr to teach the little ones, so once I left the college level, I teach PE at the lower levels and then get my coaching fix at high schools or jr. highs. (It is like being semi retired  ) |
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Post by cltblkhscoach on Sept 18, 2008 3:48:58 GMT -6
Here in NC where I am, I think half of our staff is non-teacher, and I am a varsity OC - as long as you show the time commitment and dedication, you can play as significant of a role as you desire. You do have to be a teacher to be a head coach, though for me I'm at least 5-6 years away from considering that.
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Post by spartancoach on Sept 18, 2008 14:50:51 GMT -6
I coach varsity HS in NJ - a little more than 1/2 the staff are not teachers.
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Post by knight9299 on Sept 18, 2008 15:05:56 GMT -6
you have to be an employee of the district in Texas 99.9% of the time that means you have to be a teacher Texas is generally regarded as having the best high school football "programs" in the country... I wonder if there is a correllation between this and the district restrictions. For those who have staffs made up of mostly non teaching coaches...where are you located? Here in Louisiana, I believe you can have 2 non faculty coaches on the staff. Now, you don't necessarily have to be ON campus...I preferr to teach the little ones, so once I left the college level, I teach PE at the lower levels and then get my coaching fix at high schools or jr. highs. (It is like being semi retired ) I hope you're not saying non-teacher coaches are terrible.  Or are you inferring non-teacher coaches are not as vested as teacher coaches? Here in the cornfields of Iowa, where football isn't regarded as religion as it is in some places, to coach you need to have a coaching certification, which requires a background check. Then you have to find a HC who doesn't look down his nose at non-teacher coaches. The last part is tricky. I consider myself the exception to the rule of non-teacher coaches. |
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Post by phantom on Sept 18, 2008 20:49:53 GMT -6
Texas is generally regarded as having the best high school football "programs" in the country... I wonder if there is a correllation between this and the district restrictions. For those who have staffs made up of mostly non teaching coaches...where are you located? Here in Louisiana, I believe you can have 2 non faculty coaches on the staff. Now, you don't necessarily have to be ON campus...I preferr to teach the little ones, so once I left the college level, I teach PE at the lower levels and then get my coaching fix at high schools or jr. highs. (It is like being semi retired ) I hope you're not saying non-teacher coaches are terrible. Or are you inferring non-teacher coaches are not as vested as teacher coaches? Here in the cornfields of Iowa, where football isn't regarded as religion as it is in some places, to coach you need to have a coaching certification, which requires a background check. Then you have to find a HC who doesn't look down his nose at non-teacher coaches. The last part is tricky. I consider myself the exception to the rule of non-teacher coaches. I doubt that he's saying that. I think he's saying that Texas schools will try harder to find a teaching job for a prospective coach. |
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Post by tog on Sept 18, 2008 21:01:23 GMT -6
some are better about it than others
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Post by phantom on Sept 18, 2008 21:13:53 GMT -6
some are better about it than others No doubt. Remember, though, that I'm coming from a place where they hired a male PE teacher who doesn't coach anything. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Sept 18, 2008 21:20:42 GMT -6
Texas is generally regarded as having the best high school football "programs" in the country... I wonder if there is a correllation between this and the district restrictions. For those who have staffs made up of mostly non teaching coaches...where are you located? Here in Louisiana, I believe you can have 2 non faculty coaches on the staff. Now, you don't necessarily have to be ON campus...I preferr to teach the little ones, so once I left the college level, I teach PE at the lower levels and then get my coaching fix at high schools or jr. highs. (It is like being semi retired ) I hope you're not saying non-teacher coaches are terrible. Or are you inferring non-teacher coaches are not as vested as teacher coaches? Here in the cornfields of Iowa, where football isn't regarded as religion as it is in some places, to coach you need to have a coaching certification, which requires a background check. Then you have to find a HC who doesn't look down his nose at non-teacher coaches. The last part is tricky. I consider myself the exception to the rule of non-teacher coaches. My hypothesis is more along the lines that it seems much easier to get quality teaching coaches at places where football is deemed important. |
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Post by tothehouse on Sept 18, 2008 22:59:10 GMT -6
We have a PE teacher coaching nothing.
I don't get it. It is unbelievable to me. I like the guy a lot, but OMG. How does he get away with that?
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Post by k on Sept 19, 2008 9:06:40 GMT -6
We have a PE teacher coaching nothing. I don't get it. It is unbelievable to me. I like the guy a lot, but OMG. How does he get away with that? We have a PE teacher who coaches nothing and another that coaches one sport. In both cases they are excellent teachers and SHOULD have that job even if they are unwilling to coach anything. |
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Post by jgordon1 on Sept 19, 2008 9:57:54 GMT -6
where I came from before here, you would not be able to even get enough coaches if it weren't for "civilians" To me, these people are coaching because they love it and want to be a part of something good for kids. generally, these civilians take their vacation during two a days and get R done during the week the rest of the year. most are salespeople that can adjust their schedule. you get a mixed bag regarding the quality of coaches but no better than if they taught. the only problem that i sometimes see is the are very impatient w/ school admin bs and can't understand why things are being done so stupidly. I used to be like that, but I guess the educational industrial complex beat it out me
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Or are you inferring non-teacher coaches are not as vested as teacher coaches? Here in the cornfields of Iowa, where football isn't regarded as religion as it is in some places, to coach you need to have a coaching certification, which requires a background check. Then you have to find a HC who doesn't look down his nose at non-teacher coaches. The last part is tricky. I consider myself the exception to the rule of non-teacher coaches. 
