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Post by tim914790 on Sept 4, 2008 9:30:52 GMT -6
Guys
We seemt o be very lacadasical in practice and in the past two scrimmages and I think it is because of the way we practice and warm up for games. What do you all do to get your kids intense and nuts before the game? We did a great tackling drill yesterday that I am considering doing before the game. It seemed to carry the intensity through practice.
Any ideas I wielcome.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2008 20:19:38 GMT -6
Guys We seemt o be very lacadasical in practice and in the past two scrimmages and I think it is because of the way we practice and warm up for games. What do you all do to get your kids intense and nuts before the game? We did a great tackling drill yesterday that I am considering doing before the game. It seemed to carry the intensity through practice. Any ideas I wielcome. Yeah don't do the tackling drill, I've seen kids get hurt right before a game. My kids are only allowed to sit down and watch the previous games before, I tell them to relax before the game. Then I talk them up as best I can When it comes to getting your players ready for the game I look at all the great coaches, all they had to do is talk to their team, because they knew them. that's part of why the 1st thing I do is get to know our kids personally. |
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Post by bulldogoption on Sept 5, 2008 6:16:45 GMT -6
Guys We seemt o be very lacadasical in practice and in the past two scrimmages and I think it is because of the way we practice and warm up for games. What do you all do to get your kids intense and nuts before the game? We did a great tackling drill yesterday that I am considering doing before the game. It seemed to carry the intensity through practice. Any ideas I wielcome. I am NOT a rah, rah guy......IMO, if I jack them up and we run out and give a return for a TD, what am I going to say then? Am I going to yell louder, tell an even more inspiring story..... All things being equal, then I suppose the pregame speech is important.....but things are NEVER equal. What I'm suggesting is that how you PLAY depends upon your ATHLETES and how well you've run your PRACTICES. When my practices are half-a$$ I have to remember that kids will usually do what they are allowed to do. If I don't like the intensity of practice I need to find something to change the intensity. If I'm out athleted and been out-practiced there isn't a pregame speech to be found that matters. --------------------- The tackling idea has merit. Something like that....whatever it takes to get your kids going at game speed. I don't think there is one thing that we do...a silver bullet so to speak. We just try to always expect effort and focus from the kids and let them know when its not right. Then the games become a reflection of our practices. |
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Post by fatkicker on Sept 5, 2008 8:24:53 GMT -6
i'm not a rah rah guy myself.....
i think there needs to be some sort of focus on assignents......
all of that emotion.........head banging, locker hitting, pump 'em up speech......lasts one play......one play......
after that....it's about your alignment and your assignment........or.......football.......
and like said above.......emotions too high lead to emotions too low......especially if something bad happens early......
old coach told me.....there is a difference between emotion and intensity......intensity is good...emotion is bad......
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Post by saintrad on Sept 5, 2008 11:21:26 GMT -6
We use a game/competition that I did in basic training called the Bear Pit. Two teams inside the ring (rope) and they have to stay on their knees and then wrestle the other team's players outside of the ring (rope). I beleive the Marines also use this competition too.
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Post by coachd5085 on Sept 6, 2008 16:03:35 GMT -6
i'm not a rah rah guy myself..... i think there needs to be some sort of focus on assignents...... all of that emotion.........head banging, locker hitting, pump 'em up speech......lasts one play......one play...... after that....it's about your alignment and your assignment........or.......football....... and like said above.......emotions too high lead to emotions too low......especially if something bad happens early...... old coach told me.....there is a difference between emotion and intensity......intensity is good...emotion is bad...... Excellent post Emotion gets you beat. Emotion is that person losing their cool in a situation and putting others at risk. Intensity...is the Terminator robot. Single purpose, and does not stop until mission is complete. If a team starts timidly, chances are it is unsure of itself. Pregame speeches and emotional pep are pretty futile. A personal anecdote...sophmore year, all of 5'10 157lbs. Uncoordinated and uninstructed my coaches (who were not good) had pumped me all week on how I was going to just whip the 6I who I was playing against. Yes, he was a 6'3 255lb Senior,and had committed to play for LSU, but that didnt matter. My coaches, who I had full faith and devotion to, said I was "gunna get tough, and just cut that sucker all day" The coaches never bothered to demonstrate this to me, or spend any time in practice working this technique...but who cares. After their pregame speech I was "fired up" and ready to "block someone" 1st play, I fire out he hand shivers the back of my helmet, I eat a face full of dirt and hear bells. about 24 seconds had run of the clock, we had 47 minutes and 36 seconds to play, and I had absolutely no desire to be on that field. I had no faith in anything the coaches said/did. |
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Post by coachorr on Sept 6, 2008 22:28:42 GMT -6
So what do you do? I have found that pre-game speeches with lots of emotion can sometimes do more damage than good. I want players to play intense and under control at the same time.
I wish I had the magic bullet to reach 212 degrees, anything more than that is unnecessary anything less than that is just warm water.
My issue right now, is that I do not have a look in practice. I have thought about half line stuff, but it becomes difficult to run jet sweep and inside zone against 3 or 4 guys.
I wish I had the magic bullet.
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Post by goldenbear76 on Sept 6, 2008 22:33:33 GMT -6
Coach, like others have mentioned..be honest with the kids. Stress fundamental football to them. If they block to the whistle, catch the balls thrown, make the tackles...it works itself out. Don't worry about the big picture...make them think of the little stuff. For lineman, its keeping feet moving, hands inside the frame, staying low and finishing to the whistle. Each position has a specific fundamental set they must perform on every play. Stress that stuff! Good luck this year.
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Post by coachorr on Sept 7, 2008 10:17:31 GMT -6
How do you win the 3rd quarter? Maybe that is a better question. Goldenbear, great comments, these are all the things I do and talk about competing and overcoming mistakes.
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Post by cltblkhscoach on Sept 7, 2008 12:50:25 GMT -6
Coachorr we are in the same boat - we have 23 kids on the roster, and it seems like 3-4 are missing so we never get a full look - I'm thinking about going 11 vs. 8 for run game and 11 vs. 7 for pass game and working 1 on 1's exclusively during individuals.
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Post by cmow5 on Sept 7, 2008 15:33:36 GMT -6
Guys We seemt o be very lacadasical in practice and in the past two scrimmages and I think it is because of the way we practice and warm up for games. What do you all do to get your kids intense and nuts before the game? We did a great tackling drill yesterday that I am considering doing before the game. It seemed to carry the intensity through practice. Any ideas I wielcome. last Friday during warm ups the team was quite and scared. The previous week we got KILLED and now we are supposed to be playing a better team. Well, back in the locker room the HC, 50 year vet BTW said screw this we are going out and running Oklahoma until kick off. So we come out of the locker room, ran through the banner, and started right into the Oklahoma drill. I tell you what that team has never been so fired up same with the coaches. Even had one coach head butt a kid after a big hit and ended up with a big gash on his nose with blood every where that put the kids in a FRENZY!!!! Opening kickoff that poor other team never had a chance and we ended up winning 28-3. So, is there a time and place for rah-rah speeches and tackling drills before a game? IMO hell yes there is. Should it be done ALL the time? NO. Just like violence and sex kids can be de-sensitized to it and it will mean nothing, but as coaches I would like to think we know our team and when something a little different is called for. Last Friday it worked for us, but I bet we wont do it again this year. |
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Post by coachorr on Sept 7, 2008 16:41:12 GMT -6
LOL................. that is one of the best stories I have ever heard in my life. Well, it isn't as good as the horse pissing in the middle of the field and then dying, but it is a close second. I love it.
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Post by pantherpride91 on Sept 8, 2008 10:08:48 GMT -6
We use a game/competition that I did in basic training called the Bear Pit. Two teams inside the ring (rope) and they have to stay on their knees and then wrestle the other team's players outside of the ring (rope). I beleive the Marines also use this competition too. I like the sounds of this....but would you explain it alittle more indepth... Do they wrestle to try and get out of the ring? Are there any specific rules? Is it one on one or team on team or what? Thanks |
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Post by cltblkhscoach on Sept 8, 2008 17:30:34 GMT -6
We did a version of the Bear Pit a few years ago but we called it WWF - stopped it because a kid got excited and did an actual wrestling move and broke a kids leg.....
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Post by airtrafficcontrol on Sept 8, 2008 18:28:09 GMT -6
I always tell my boys to look inside themselves before a game..a question is going to be asked of them during the game,and thats Do ways come back to this core question and it seems to do the job.
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Post by coachorr on Sept 8, 2008 20:40:54 GMT -6
Air traffic, could you rephrase the statement, I did not understand. Thanks
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Post by airtrafficcontrol on Sept 11, 2008 19:05:26 GMT -6
yeah half my text went awol!I ask my guys why they turn up each n every day...I ask them to ask themselves why they love playing the game.
Always gets them ready..
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Post by davecisar on Sept 12, 2008 6:01:04 GMT -6
Im just a youth coach, but we had a problem with this on occaision, usually in early morning games where we traveled a bit. We have a former 7 year NFL vet that is an assistant coach and he suggested a "compete" drill to get the kids used to competing with a short wrap up.
We have set offense and defense for this drill. often we will have our first team offense go against 15 defenders on this. Whenver the kids hear the word "compete" from me they run full speed to a designated spot and we have a very loud and very spirited high intensity 10 minute scrimmage. No scrimmgae vests or tiem taken away from immediately competing.
We call out compete in the middle of individuals, right in the middle of special teams or even right in the middle of our traditional talk after we do our 10 minute dynamic warm up. The key seems to be to get the kids conditionied to competing full blast from a near standstill. So far we are pleased with the results. The NFL guy said Bill B used this drill often with his team, they usually went 5 minutes or so.
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Post by gunrun on Sept 12, 2008 11:35:00 GMT -6
If I'm the DC and I see my guys dragging, I'm bringing the house to bring up the intensity.
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Post by carson101 on Sept 12, 2008 23:50:11 GMT -6
Coach,
We will go over assignments,individual periods,team period against both O and D scout teams Talk with the team of our goals and leave it up to them to as position coaches we talk with our kids, then as we are in game mode we will keep our ids close coach them if they mess up pull them out coache'em up send em back and hope it works. It did for the frosh we won 47-0 against a team we never played before. Our Var won 15-14 w/30 seconds left. So it comes to how we coach what we expect and what the kids want to acheive.
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