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Post by jgordon1 on Aug 8, 2008 9:33:31 GMT -6
How much do you condition during 2 a days. We have 6 kids going both ways. does this figure into the equation? What condition drills do you do when you condition. Do you have any fun?!? things that you do for conditioning?
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Post by wingtol on Aug 8, 2008 9:56:04 GMT -6
We usually only condition in one of the sessions during 2 a days. We just do the usuall stuff, sprints, gutters, 10 and turns. We have used kickoff as a conditioning drill and take the OL to do their own during the KO drills.
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Post by ajreaper on Aug 8, 2008 10:14:24 GMT -6
Early in the season you really have to be carefull of both volume and intensity and be prepared to adjust based on assestment of how your kids are feeling. The worse thing you can do is over train and develop chronic overuse conditions in some of your kids as those often hang around most of the season (and it's often the hardest working, don't know how to back off, or won't mention being really sore etc and those kids are generally "players").
I will generally mix in every third day or so what is more a dynamic warm up and stretch then "conditioning" and most of what we do is position specific and mimics what they do on the field most plays- go hard for 4-5 seconds, jog/walk another 10-15 yards, rest for 20-25 seconds and do it all again. As an example my lineman often will drive our 3 man sled for 5-6 seconds jog back into line and get their rest period and repeat this for 6-8 minutes and I'll add 1-2 minutes each week until we hit the 15 minute mark. This is always a post practice conditioner. Twice a week we condition in the morning as a team. I generally do this in our gym with the team lined up across the baseline- they'll sprint through the half court line and jog to the other baseline get a rest period then repeat. The last weeks of our season last year we were doing the equivelant of 70-80 plays per session (we have a ton of two way starters so we must be in shape). The players liked knowing they'd go into at least two practices a week with conditioning a done deal already.
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Post by bgodsil on Aug 8, 2008 10:43:04 GMT -6
I try to mix in competition as much as possible when doing conditioning especially during 2 A Days. I do 100 yard relays, County Fair. These competitions are fun and challenging. I also tell my boys the harder they work in their drills and team the less conditioning they will have. What this does is prepares them for game time playing. All out for short bursts.
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Post by chuff on Aug 9, 2008 7:58:08 GMT -6
Does anyone do their conditioning first thing in practice? I read an article about John Wooden and he did this. I am hoping that by conditioning at the beginning of practice this fall the kids will not "save it" and go all-out in drills and team. The concept will be: "There, our conditioning is done. But if it is proved (thru drills and team) that we aren't in good condition, then I guess we will have to do more at the end of practice."
BTW- what is "County Fair?" It is probably something that I have already heard of, but by a different name! Thanks.
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Post by kr7263 on Aug 9, 2008 12:43:02 GMT -6
We also do "county fair" - each coach chooses a drill - footwork, ladder, bags, grass drills etc and a small groups (6-10) of players rotates around the circuit. Great point about over use and nagging leg injuries - sometimes forget we are dealing with basically untrained teenage boys.
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Post by fbdoc on Aug 9, 2008 13:27:11 GMT -6
ajreaper - you must be a track coach (using terms like volume and intensity)  When volume is HIGH as in 2 a days, the intensity needs to be LOW. Less volume and you increase the intensity. Done correctly, performance improves. Done incorrectly, performance decreases, fatigue sets in, injuries occur. We have always tried to condition within the drill. Receivers are running routes all day long - that's conditioning! Special Teams all involve running - that's conditioning. Yes we also do some gassers, county fairs, and the like but its part of the big plan, not just conditioning for the sake of filling time. Be smart with your practice plan. |
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Post by jackedup on Aug 9, 2008 15:41:48 GMT -6
County fair is how we do it... now we're a no-huddle offense so we'll use our tempo during team as a source of conditioning. Also, we use a drill called "stampede". I'm sure people have done a version of this... You start out at the 5 yard line and run plays every 10-15 yards, changing hashes, as well as formations, personnel packages, and play types (run vs Pass). Then we will use our special teams as a source of conditioning. At the end of practice is when we use the County Fair. We'll either do a tackling, agility, or turnover circuit.
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Post by touchdowng on Aug 9, 2008 20:24:45 GMT -6
We did all of the conditioning base work from June to the start of the season. (Lots of gassers and metabolic types of conditioning)
Our practices are very up-tempo - We'll go 5 minutes hard / 5 minutes low intensity, 10 minutes hard / 10 minutes low intensity. Got this from watching Univ of Cal run their practices.
Because of this we don't do much conditioning at all. Maybe 10 minutes a day of true conditioning (gassers, 300 yard shuttle, etc)
We'll only condition after the 2nd practice of a two-a-day.
To expand on this, once the season begins - we'll condition for
15 minutes on Mondays, 10-12 minutes on Tuesdays , 7-8 on Wednesdays, and zero for Thursdays. We also lift on Mon and Wed
We've played in OT games and our kids do not run out of gas.
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When volume is HIGH as in 2 a days, the intensity needs to be LOW. Less volume and you increase the intensity. Done correctly, performance improves. Done incorrectly, performance decreases, fatigue sets in, injuries occur. We have always tried to condition within the drill. Receivers are running routes all day long - that's conditioning! Special Teams all involve running - that's conditioning. Yes we also do some gassers, county fairs, and the like but its part of the big plan, not just conditioning for the sake of filling time. Be smart with your practice plan.
