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Post by here4thekids on Aug 6, 2008 21:54:52 GMT -6
While talking in the coach's office after one of our workouts, my coaching staff and I started discussing how to take this school that has been average in the past to the next level. We were looking at ways to get a jump on our competitors when one of the coaches brought up having 2-a-days during the school year. We all kind of looked at him like he was insane and dismissed the idea but I couldn't help but think about it on the ride home. I know Prospt used to do this at Hoover but how many other people who coach at a late school actually do this or have considered it? Is this even somewhat feasible for a normal high school? I can imagine there might be alot of backlash from the administration and parents that would make this impossible.
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Post by k on Aug 6, 2008 22:21:28 GMT -6
We had "two a days" for the first two weeks of school when I played.
You had to be on the track at 6 AM for conditioning. We ran a 40, a 100, a 200, a 400, a 600, a 800, a 1000, a 800, a 600, a 400, a 200, a 100, and a 40. Then we showered and went to class.
Not really "two a days" as you pictured them but still twice a day. =)
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Post by touchdowng on Aug 6, 2008 22:37:48 GMT -6
here4thekids
our state regulates us to only having 5 multiple practice days during our season.
I remember doing 2 weeks worth when I was in H.S.
If you ever read the book "Finding the Winning Edge" by the late Bill Walsh, be sure to read the section about getting your team game ready for the first game.
Doubles take such a toll on the bodies during FB that there really is a science to getting your guys fresh for the first game and keeping them fresh throughout a long season. If you were to work them with so much time on the field that they are limping (not literally - just emotionally) into week 1. You could be in a for a long season.
I'd probably dismiss this idea as just somebody thinking out loud.
If my son played for a program (at any level) that did doubles for the entire season, I would remove him immediately.
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Post by kcbazooka on Aug 7, 2008 5:45:41 GMT -6
State champs here do what amount to two-a-days all year. They have their kids come in every morning before school - either weights or football practice. Then regular practice in the afternoon. ANd of course after the season, they still come in before school for conditioning/weights. 4 days a week - all year long.
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Post by tothehouse on Aug 7, 2008 9:00:12 GMT -6
We have two a days every school day. Our school has a football PE class. "Advanced Football PE". We lift and run M, W, F (no running on Fri., but lifting) and do football on Tues, Thurs. Bascially we have 9 practices a week before our game. While it's advantageous for us we still feel we don't have enough time with our guys.
The PE class is a true class on the class roster of the school. It is not a trick or some kind of "rule bender". It's a legitimate class.
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Post by midlineqb on Aug 7, 2008 11:03:54 GMT -6
We have two a days every school day. Our school has a football PE class. "Advanced Football PE". We lift and run M, W, F (no running on Fri., but lifting) and do football on Tues, Thurs. Bascially we have 9 practices a week before our game. While it's advantageous for us we still feel we don't have enough time with our guys. The PE class is a true class on the class roster of the school. It is not a trick or some kind of "rule bender". It's a legitimate class. That's great! The schools I've been wouldn't allow us to set up a class such as this. We weren't even to talk to the kids about football in the classroom. They jumped my case when I was taking time out of a history class, made up of all girls, to explain the rules, formations, plays, etc. The girls wanted to understand the game better and be able to enjoy it more on Friday nights. My argument was that I was teaching history to the girls, and they would be able to understand better than why the US got involved in Vietnam. It wasn't an all year thing. I just took a week to week and half to do this. But I did catch hell from the administration. Buddy |
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Post by towtheline on Aug 11, 2008 13:38:58 GMT -6
I think its all about getting the support to do it
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Post by airman on Aug 11, 2008 16:03:34 GMT -6
if you have an athletic period I think this works out.
I was at a school where on tues and thursdays the qb and wr did an hour before school throwing the ball.
I am not a big fan of moring practices to be honest. however I practice on saturday mornings and I know that is unpopular in most places.
my saturday mornings are like this
watch the film
30 min offense and defense meeting. I platoon. we teach the game in this period to players. very detailed. have the players draw up the plays, the reads and such.
dynamic warmup 15 to 20 min
offense out on the field for 75 min defense in the weight room 75 min.
defense on the field for 75 min offense in the weight room for 75 min.
technique work on the field. detail stuff.
monday is similar. give out game plan before school.
we get two weight training sessions in during the week this way.
t and w are long days 3 hr 45 min practices
thursday before school test on game plan. thur walk thru. 90 min tops on the field. make sure we correct the wrong answers on the test for the players.
friday morings walk thru or after noon if home game.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2008 18:22:33 GMT -6
While talking in the coach's office after one of our workouts, my coaching staff and I started discussing how to take this school that has been average in the past to the next level. We were looking at ways to get a jump on our competitors when one of the coaches brought up having 2-a-days during the school year. We all kind of looked at him like he was insane and dismissed the idea but I couldn't help but think about it on the ride home. I know Prospt used to do this at Hoover but how many other people who coach at a late school actually do this or have considered it? Is this even somewhat feasible for a normal high school? I can imagine there might be alot of backlash from the administration and parents that would make this impossible. I smell burnout |
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Post by td4tc on Aug 11, 2008 18:31:55 GMT -6
we used to have occasional AM Offense play run throughs judiciously spaced out through the year(always before games i was worried about)In this way the kids thought it was special instead of punishment and realized we were going to be more prepared.i think it worked great cause we didn't over do it and its a good opportunity to go through plays more relaxed,joke around a bit and have some fun.
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Post by highball007 on Aug 11, 2008 19:02:55 GMT -6
What we do is on Mondays QB/WR come in in the mornings. Tuesdays OL/DL. Wednesdays RB/LB's. Thursdays we have all special Teams come in. Nothing on Fridays just an optional Film day if kids want to come in and watch. We usually have about 10-15 kids come in on fridays mostly senior players that really want to get better. We have normal after school practice from 3:15 - 5:30!
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Post by Coach Huey on Aug 11, 2008 21:13:56 GMT -6
we have an athletic period during the school day - specifically for football (other sports have theirs, too). have 1st period athletics... then after school practice. essentially, 2-a-days all year round. plus, for those that play multiple sports, when you have first period athletics you can really wear 'em out during off-season and they have all day to recover, then are fresher for their 2nd sport's practice after school (i.e. if they run track they aren't going to track right after weights/conditioning as you did that earlier in the morning...they got all school day to regroup for track practice)
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Post by WB22 on Aug 14, 2008 7:04:32 GMT -6
airman,
How are those 3 hr, 45 min practices ? It seems you'd reach the point of diminishing returns, what with the attention span of many teens. No offense, by the way. It just sounds awfully long.
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