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Post by tothehouse on Jul 29, 2008 0:36:32 GMT -6
Coaches - I have read a little bit about high school coaches putting on clinics for the moms of their players. I have heard of college coaches running on field clinics for woman as well.
Can somebody explain what one might go over with these woman (moms, fans, etc.)?
Formations, alignments, blitzes?
Is the end result of something like this just to have the woman understand the game a little better?
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Post by carson101 on Jul 29, 2008 8:40:00 GMT -6
I have heard that it is more like teachng them the rules, officials signals,why we do what we do and how we plan on doing it.What we are doing with our funds and how to maximize them. What role if any,does mom have with the team,and players...stuff like that.
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Post by kurtbryan on Jul 29, 2008 9:19:47 GMT -6
;D We have done a Mom's Night and it is a lot of fun, two ways: 1. Each Mom wears their son's jersey, they go through warm up lightly, indy drills, a play or two, then we come together and run several reps of one or two plays. Whole time on the field is one-hour, Then pizza and sodas, etc. 2. Or, we have done fancy potluck with the Mom's and coaches and a house, then watched game film and broken it down for them, allowing them to ask questions, etc. Lots of fun. * We also do a Dad's night, drinks and dinner with the Dad's and Coaches. Big fun. KB  |
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Post by coachd5085 on Jul 29, 2008 9:43:28 GMT -6
Coaches - I have read a little bit about high school coaches putting on clinics for the moms of their players. I have heard of college coaches running on field clinics for woman as well. Can somebody explain what one might go over with these woman (moms, fans, etc.)? Formations, alignments, blitzes? Is the end result of something like this just to have the woman understand the game a little better? I have seen them similar to what KB describes. Mom's wear the Jerseys, and then you give them a school type open house of a football practice. Mom's do strech/dynamic warm ups...break into Indy...do some drills (When the coaches are OVERLY INTENSE -with a smile- it adds to the fun) ..maybe some 7 on 7...a team period -walk through, where a position by position breakdown of what is happening can occur for one run play and one pass play. post practice speech... soft drinks and goodies. |
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Post by bluboy on Jul 29, 2008 10:52:16 GMT -6
One school I was (at 30+ years ago), we put on a clinic for women. We held it in the cafe and had them sit on the actual benches we sat on at halftime. We broke the clinic into four quarters (offense, defense, kicking, and basic rules). Midway thorough we had a half time. We went through what a typical halftime would be like. At the end of the clinic we had equipment they could try on. THEY LOVED IT!!!!! I don't know why we never did it again.
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Post by herky on Jul 29, 2008 11:08:23 GMT -6
Wow...I find this concept extremely insulting. My feeling is that a fan or student of the game, regardless of gender, will seek out information on their own based on their interest level.
The assumption a woman does not understand the rules/positions/schemes, or what occurs at practice is asinine. If you are going to hold a 'clinic' such as this, it is shortsighted not to include men. Use it as a feel good modality for all parents and guardians, or even the community...not as an exclusive and patronizing event.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jul 29, 2008 11:16:02 GMT -6
Herky--while I do see your point, all I know is that it has been a H U G E hit at the locations I have been involved with. And the assumption that a woman does not understand the rules/positions/schemes or what occurs at practice is most definitely NOT asinine. It might be gendered biased, but since the statistics of Mothers who played high school football compared to Fathers who played high school football are astronomically small.....
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Post by CoachCP on Jul 29, 2008 11:41:34 GMT -6
I love this idea.
The fact of the matter Herky, I believe, is that women sometimes don't feel included or avoid it because of the way men act around the sport. They feel the culture tells them that their kids or dads would be embarrassed if they were overly interested or something. This gives them the okay to be interested, which I believe has proof in the turnout.
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herky
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Post by herky on Jul 29, 2008 12:15:47 GMT -6
Again, speaking as a woman, I find this concept very patronizing.
Is the purpose of this activity to truly teach women about football or to expose them and ultimately cultivate support for the program? My assumption is the latter by the examples given.
My point is why exclude men from that mix? Having a penis does not inherently give one an understanding of football. Nor does playing high school football implicitly give a man an accurate insight or guarantee a buy in to the particulars of YOUR program. And it certainly doesn't guarantee they understand the time and commitments coaches make to the sport.
Of course women will attend this event, it reflects their support for their children, not their knowledge of football. I am not denying this could be a great tool for the program, but it is not as effective as it could be in excluding men.
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Post by tiger46 on Jul 29, 2008 12:47:59 GMT -6
Herky,
I'm not a HS coach. I'm not an expert on the subject, by any means. I don't know about including men in stuff like that. I can think of a few reasons not to include men in an event like that. And, none of the reasons are favorable towards men. I couldn't imagine trying to usher Capt. Know-it-All and Mr. Back in My Day... through even one drill; let alone a mini-practice.
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Post by k on Jul 29, 2008 14:08:34 GMT -6
If you are going to hold a 'clinic' such as this, it is shortsighted not to include men. I hear you here but might I suggest another point? What about the "Curves" approach? That a co-ed situation might be intimidating to some mothers. My mom was always VERY intimidated by football. She never missed a single baseball game my entire life but never made a football game. My father went to my football games but couldn't tell a quarterback from a cornerback if you paid him. Both would have benefited from basic lesson but I'm not sure my mom would go if fathers who knew much more about the sport were there. |
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Post by hawksoc on Jul 29, 2008 14:39:21 GMT -6
When we have done this it has been very popular and the moms involved all wanted to attend again the next season. We started with really basic information and let the moms' questions take us where they wanted to go. In our case none of the moms wanted their husbands there because they felt more comfortable asking the coaches questions without dad there.
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Post by utchuckd on Jul 29, 2008 16:17:44 GMT -6
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Post by touchdowng on Jul 29, 2008 16:43:37 GMT -6
Herky:
I've had moms ask me to do something like this (Mom's FB school) and to intentionally NOT invite the men. They are concerned that men (their hubby) will take over the conversation and they'd like their own quality time with the coaches and boys to learn a little more about our game.
I can understand their position.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jul 29, 2008 17:18:09 GMT -6
Herky: I've had moms ask me to do something like this (Mom's FB school) and to intentionally NOT invite the men. They are concerned that men (their hubby) will take over the conversation and they'd like their own quality time with the coaches and boys to learn a little more about our game. I can understand their position. My experiences mirror this anecdote. The staff brought up the possibility of making it a "parent's night" rather than a Mom's night. The mom's HATED this idea. |
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Post by tog on Jul 29, 2008 18:51:18 GMT -6
It might be gendered biased, but since the statistics of Mothers who played high school football compared to Fathers who played high school football are astronomically small..... I get volleyball. Never played it either |
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Post by dubber on Jul 29, 2008 20:37:33 GMT -6
I think herky is right.
I also think they should be seperate clinics ("curves" argument).
Really, I think you'll find females to be better learners. The men either think they have an idea, or don't want to admint they have no clue.........ever tried to coach a QB like that?
The women would be more likely, IF they didn't know much, to absorb what they taught. Those who do possess a greater knowledge about football would also probably be more receptive to a learning experience, because they do not have the threat of proving who knows more when they interact with a coach (as a male might).
That all is besides the point, however. The real objective is not to get MOM/DAD to understand the finer points of a form tackle. It is to garner program support.
BTW, if the tables were flipped, and the Dads did attend a "volleyball clinic", I imagine the coach, especially if she were female, would have a problem with the coachability of her player's fathers.
Guys normally are not secure enough to take instruction from a female......ask them who their least favorite teacher in HS was......Mrs. so-and-so
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