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Post by dubber on Jul 25, 2008 18:41:04 GMT -6
First year spread team highlights........this was the high school I coached at last season. We are the blue team (white away) As you can see, we had a holdover from our double tight full-house days.  FAR from perfect, but maybe there are some good things for guys wanting to see different spread stuff (jet, compliments, some throw game, etc.) I hope this helps someone. -Dubber |
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Post by 19delta on Jul 25, 2008 19:16:38 GMT -6
Coach -
Good stuff!
I noticed that often, when you guys were in that trips set, that the defense didn't cover up all three receivers. They either had only two guys over there trying to cover the 3 receivers or they had a safety over the top of the two underneath defenders playing 12+ yards off the ball.
What do you guys do when you see an uncovered receiver? Do you run the play that was called, do you throw quick to the uncovered receiver, or does it depend on the situation? Being new to the spread, what did defenses try to do to you guys? What gave you guys the most trouble?
I'm going to be in the same situation this year...team I'm working for has run dub-tight Wishbone for about 7 years but is going to the spread this year. Very similar formations to what you have showed...trips, 2x2, duece backfield with a slot.
Interested in your experiences...
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Post by dubber on Jul 25, 2008 20:27:24 GMT -6
We didn't work uncovered that well (that's changed this season)....we should have thrown a ton more bubble out of trips.
Our thinking on trips was simple:
1. Do we have our stud on the backside in a one-on-one situation (essentially 1 high)
2. If no, then work trips.
3. Our job as coaches was to recognize and call a run play versus 5 in the box
Yeah, teams did not adjust well at times to us (only spread team in the area)......One DC wasn't going to break up his 5-2 front that he played hard cover 2 behind.
We went trips, he'd shift to cover 3........the corner that was use to playing bump and flat was essentially one-on-one with our stud......he had a neckroll......I believe my exact words from the box were: "Uh, coach, Jared is guarded by a kid with a neckroll"
Gameplan kind of set itself after that.
What gave us the most trouble (and after doing some 7-on-7's still does, though not as badly) were teams that jammed us. We weren't real good at getting off jams, but we learned from that....
Really in any offense, but especially the spread, you can only do what your QB can do. Our's was our best running back and thrower, so things worked out well.
The thing about spread, for me personally, was it increases visibility of the defense. After the first series, I could tell our OC what was and what wasn't being given to us.
Spread is just a counting game...
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Post by hawkfan on Jul 25, 2008 22:07:33 GMT -6
Nice vid Dubber! That QB sure throws a pretty deep ball...a lot of those throws didn't have to be perfect because your WR's were so wide open, but they were hit right in stride. Good stuff!
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Post by tog on Jul 25, 2008 22:14:31 GMT -6
dubber
what did you learn about beating the jam?
how are you planning on attacking it more?
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Post by dubber on Jul 26, 2008 7:41:35 GMT -6
dubber what did you learn about beating the jam? how are you planning on attacking it more? Basically, our kids weren't well verse in using their hands.....the biggest thing, however, is getting the rec. to be as low in his stance as the DB. If you are too high, the DB gets into your chest and can hold, uh, jam you. Getting low is not something we teach really hard right now, but it is something I will suggest. We are working MUCH harder on our hands, so that should help. Our guys want to stand up in their stances, which works fine versus cover 3, but those cover 2 teams that jam our SE, or those 8-man front teams that jammed our slots, gave use troubles. The main we we are going to attack it (and this is some really good coaching here   ), we are going to get off it better, and then throw fades to the 6'3'' kids we got playing SE. BTW tog, I'd have to say the idea for gun jet sweep came from ultimately from you. We do different things off it, but it is one heck of a series for us. I wish I could get into more intricate detail, but I moved too far away from the school to coach everyday, but I will be on the headset on Friday nights on the box. I get down there whenever I can.......I just started a career that'll take 1-2 years to get on track before I can go full-time coaching again. But hey, any questions, and I'll gladly answer them |
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Post by sls on Aug 1, 2008 20:31:11 GMT -6
BTW tog, I'd have to say the idea for gun jet sweep came from ultimately from you. We do different things off it, but it is one heck of a series for us. I echo the same sentiments, it is now one of our best plays and has mad all of our running plays better. |
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Post by wccoach on Aug 1, 2008 22:22:22 GMT -6
We have become very good at beating the jam by getting our receivers to stand up a little taller in thier stance. I know that sounds backwards, but it has helped us from getting too much forward lean on the release. It is very hard to move lateral when your center of gravity is too far forward. Try it out yourself by getting low in a receiver stance and try to move lateral with quick burst moves. I even went as far as filming myself trying to move lateral with a low stance and the film showed that my first movement was to stand up! I know that it sounds wrong but it is true. Ron Jenkins also teaches this method in his books and videos. The lower stance makes it easier for the db to reach the receiver without lunging or overextending. We have found that when we stand up and make our first move lateral without crossing the LOS that the DB will reach out and get out of position. It is then very easy to chop, rip, or swim by him. We hope that we are getting pressed now and after a series or two the DBs move back and try to collision us 4-5 yards downfield. Try it out and see if it works for you.
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), we are going to get off it better, and then throw fades to the 6'3'' kids we got playing SE.