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Post by dubber on Jul 4, 2008 10:44:48 GMT -6
Football coaches, IN GENERAL, are a pretty conservative lot. As in, most tend to lean to the, ahem, right side of things. Nothing wrong with that, just an observation in general. HOWEVER, I was wondering if choices in schemes (offensive or defensive) have anything to do with a coach's personality. Is the desired level of risk equal to the level of risk they take in their own lives? EX: This coach like conservative mutual funds to secure his retirement.....he runs the Tampa 2. EX: This coach drives a motorcycle, and runs a hurry-up spread offense EX: This coach goes to demo derbies, as in, he DRIVES in them, and he runs Cover 1 and 0 primarily EX: This coach drives the speed limit all the time, and he runs the SW I guess I ask because I am a bit of a risk taker (at least in some areas), and while I offensively resemble that, my defensive philosophy resembles my financial taste (fairly conservative, with room for punctuated risk-taking). Just wondering if scheme choice is really about "random selection" (IE, what you are exposed to in your formative years), or something deeper......... Happy 4th to all, BTW.  |
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Post by burn on Jul 4, 2008 12:38:17 GMT -6
I agree that some of it may be reflected in their schemes but I believe a lot more of it has to do with schemes they ran in HS or college and what schemes they learned as assistant coaches. I think coaches will do what is comfortable and what they know.
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Post by touchdownmaker on Jul 4, 2008 13:00:21 GMT -6
could have more to do with endowment.
..those that buy tony franklins system probably also purchased "male enhancement" products.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jul 4, 2008 13:53:00 GMT -6
I agree that some of it may be reflected in their schemes but I believe a lot more of it has to do with schemes they ran in HS or college and what schemes they learned as assistant coaches. I think coaches will do what is comfortable and what they know. I agree, I think most coaches will adopt the FIRST system that they really learn the nuts and bolts to. The First system that they feel they could present at a clinic, or that they could do a whiteboard Q &A session with. |
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Post by gilcd754 on Jul 5, 2008 22:25:43 GMT -6
I definitely agree with players reflecting the personality of their position coaches. Our OLine coach is a me against the world kind of guy and the line definitely takes that same approach which makes for a tough bunch of kids that take pride in their roles but they have trouble communicating as well just like their coach.
I know I am really trying to overcome my tendency as the OC to call plays based on trying to out think the D. I am trying to emphasize execution and let the kids make the plays. Im a strategic thinker and visualizer so I am constantly going through diagrams in my head which I have found made playcalling overly complicated and cumbersome. I've gotten better each year but it's hard to fight the tendency to want to beat the D with only my play call. I would come into to practice on Monday with 4 new plays to beat our next opponent and spend way too much time on them and neglect our bread and butter. Then get in the game and see a different defensive look and bag all my plans and go back to the core I neglected all week.... pretty stupid, I know but I'm new to it and learning fast.
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Post by coachwoodall on Jul 5, 2008 22:52:52 GMT -6
dub, great thought
I would say for me, it is a more about what I wish I was like. I am a defensive guy who likes to make call that are b*lls to the wall pressure on D. In real life I am a conservative type doesn't take a lot of chances. To me it is just a game, and so I take it as a chance to do something to the extreme. There are some elements in that I tend to go with the philosophy of 'if some is good, then more must me be better'. I told a fellow coach that the one thing about coaching on the JV/middle school level is that if you screw something up, it won't be the head line of the sports page the next day in the local paper. Therefore I like to try some things that I might not if the region championship was on the line.
From a strategic stand point, it is more of the vein of what I know is tough for kids to deal with, and I want to put pressure on a 16 year old to have to make a decision in the heat of battle.
I have done the offensive side of the game and I think that you need to gamble a little bit with it. I tend to think in the line of what gilc was saying in that I went with the strategic aspect in terms of 'this is what they are giving and therefore I need to run that'.
What I do has less to do with what I ran when I played, and more with what I know can hurt me or what has caused me problems in the past. I try to be student of the game and learn what offenses are trying to do and then try to coach to counter that. I have evolve much since when I was in school.
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Post by kurtbryan on Jul 6, 2008 22:06:46 GMT -6
Gonna have to jibe with playcalling mirroring personality vs. scheme.
Many a coach (friend or foe) has likened yours truly to a 'riverboat gambler' in my playcalling, but not so in my scheme choice.
But, who knows?
Interesting topic though.
KB
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Post by senatorblutarsky on Jul 7, 2008 7:40:57 GMT -6
EX: This coach drives a motorcycle, and runs a hurry-up spread offense
EX: This coach drives the speed limit all the time, and he runs the SWMy last ticket was for speeding while on the Harley... and we are a SW power team...so I'm gonna disagree  |
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Post by phantom on Jul 7, 2008 8:58:56 GMT -6
EX: This coach drives a motorcycle, and runs a hurry-up spread offense
EX: This coach drives the speed limit all the time, and he runs the SWMy last ticket was for speeding while on the Harley... and we are a SW power team...so I'm gonna disagree As a DC I never met a blitz I didn't like and I drive very slowly. Very, very slowly. |
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Post by airman on Jul 8, 2008 15:08:36 GMT -6
I am not sure on this one. I am a libertarian(not to be confused with a liberal or socialist) politically so I believe in a lot of individual freedom. Basically I am in the leave us the hell alone group.
however as a coach I tend to be very demanding in some way. If I say you better run a 15yd back to 13 curl route you better do it that way. now I will explain how and why it is important. I will just not go postal on you. still nothing ticks me off more then a poor run pass route or a lazy wr who will not break down a corner back properly or a rec who false steps.
play calling I guess I do allow for several individual reads on different passes. I am sort of a riverboat gambler, a gunslinger. I have never met a 7 step drop back pass that I did not like. I believe in individuals battling at their very best one on one.
I wish I could be more of a risk taker financially. I have missed out on some opportunities to make a lot of money. on a side now, I have read where you should minus your age from 100 and the difference is the amount of money you shod have in higher risk financial funds. so for me at 40, I should have 60 % of my money in higher risk funds or stocks. not me, I buy gold.
still when it comes to football nothing puts me to sleep faster then a 3 back, 2 Te power football team. If I have to watch that in the film room I am going to get some quality nap time in
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Post by tedseay on Jul 9, 2008 9:20:26 GMT -6
Just wondering if scheme choice is really about "random selection" (IE, what you are exposed to in your formative years), or something deeper......... Definitely deeper. I was first exposed to Wing-T, so that became the foundation of my offensive thinking, but over the years I have transformed it until the result, my Wild Bunch offense, is as warped as my personality. |
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Post by CoachCP on Jul 9, 2008 11:25:14 GMT -6
I'm fairly conservative in everything but football.
I believe in an aggressive, high movement 30 stack and a no huddle offense that is balanced, yet aggressive as well.
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