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Post by fatkicker on Jul 2, 2008 18:58:47 GMT -6
i'm going after my masters in ed. leadership......
it's amazing how much easier school is the 2nd time around after many years in the real world.......of course my focus isn't on how much beer i can drink....
any advice or horror stories out there from those that have completed or are working on advanced degrees?
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Post by k on Jul 2, 2008 19:09:15 GMT -6
What do you teach? Why not get a Masters in your discipline?
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Post by coachnichols on Jul 2, 2008 19:12:56 GMT -6
i'm going after my masters in ed. leadership...... it's amazing how much easier school is the 2nd time around after many years in the real world.......of course my focus isn't on how much beer i can drink.... any advice or horror stories out there from those that have completed or are working on advanced degrees? I have no horror stories. I found it to be just what you're saying...it's a lot easier to go back to school after working and growing up some. I would definitely get a master's in school leadership over your area of teaching. Around here at least, you cannot get into administration without the school leadership masters. A master's in, let's say history, would get you nothing but more education and more money. To become an AD or principal, you'd have to get another master's degree (in leadership).
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Post by wingtol on Jul 2, 2008 19:16:12 GMT -6
If you have to do a research class don't plan on doing much during the time you have that class. Almost drove me crazy, but on the other hand if you are looking for all the parts of a research paper except for the actual research let me know I am sure we can work out a deal for it Mine was for ed. leadership as well. As far as getting a Masters in the discipline you teach most people in Education get a Masters in something else to have more career opportunities down the road. I highly doubt a Masters in PE would help me out, if they even offer those.
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Post by superpower on Jul 2, 2008 20:06:57 GMT -6
Is it true that at the end of the ed. leadership (admin. degree) program, all participants must undergo a lobotomy and castration?
Just kidding, but that is a joke that used to be popular among some coaches I knew who had coaching friends who went into admin.
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Post by bulldogoption on Jul 2, 2008 20:11:57 GMT -6
Is it true that at the end of the ed. leadership (admin. degree) program, all participants must undergo a lobotomy and castration? Just kidding, but that is a joke that used to be popular among some coaches I knew who had coaching friends who went into admin. I've also heard back surgery......... ;D I have the same degree, no horror stories....but it sure got old listening to all the experts critique their administrators from a classroom seat.
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Post by fatkicker on Jul 2, 2008 20:13:03 GMT -6
as others have stated a masters in my discipline would be tough.......i'm one of the few coaches in america that teach english.....i couldn't imagine writing a collection of short stories or poems......been 10 years since i've done any creative writing.....and a masters in the same discipline wouldn't allow many any other certifications......i'd like to have more options upon degree completion....
hater........long term, who knows........i would like to have a few more options down the road.....i'm told that one day i'll get tired of walking the sidelines......and sitting behind the BIG DESK is a good career adjustment without changing totally....
i guess my ideal job would be assistant principal and header.......even though many districts in my state are shying away from that........it's not as popular as it once was......the thinking is an a.p. won't have the time to do the header duties along with admin. duties......
the class itself hasn't been hard yet.....just writing 2 page papers every night based on case studies..........i once thought 1 paper a week was hard......again, trying to fit the paper around my beer drinking......
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Post by trojan on Jul 2, 2008 21:02:40 GMT -6
Is it true that at the end of the ed. leadership (admin. degree) program, all participants must undergo a lobotomy and castration? There is a reason that jokes like this are around. Just make sure that this is what you really want. It won't be hard to get.
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Post by dacoachmo on Jul 2, 2008 21:41:12 GMT -6
just finished my masters in Special Education...
I had this Prof for the first couple of classes that had us READ FROM THE BOOK!!! after that the instructors were a HUGE improvement!!!
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Post by coachcathey on Jul 2, 2008 21:43:32 GMT -6
I highly doubt a Masters in PE would help me out, if they even offer those. They do offer a masters program in physical education. I worked on mine and got it and now I am pursuing my Ph.D. in physical education pedagogy (Teach people to be teachers.) If anyone is interested in getting a M.A. in Physical Education while you work, please feel free to PM and I will pass some information along that may help you out. (Schools with online programs, and other items.)
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Post by highball007 on Jul 2, 2008 22:58:19 GMT -6
I have no horror stories, but I am getting my 2nd masters degree as I speak. I have one masters degree in my content area, and now they say that is not enough I need a masters in education. I am now just a little worried about the PRAXIS II. If anybody can help me in passing the PE PRAXIS II I would love some insight.
Thanks
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Post by k on Jul 2, 2008 23:00:58 GMT -6
I guess I'm in the minority in wanting to be in the classroom and not in the front office. I've got the job I want in the district I want and didn't get my masters to make it easier to find a job; I took classes that would make me a better teacher in my discipline and ones that I thought would be fun and took enough of them to get myself a masters.
Then again I HATED Education classes with a passion they were absolute torture. =)
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Post by coachd5085 on Jul 3, 2008 7:32:57 GMT -6
k
It isn't necessarily about "wanting" to be in administration. For many, it is simply keeping doors open, for a different career path in the same general field. Also, for others it is about RETIREMENT. I know our state retirement system for teachers in LA is based on the highest 3 years of salary. Well, if you teach for 20+ years...and then finish off as an administrator....your retirement is going to be boosted substantially by those administrative years.
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Post by mrsixx6 on Jul 3, 2008 8:26:52 GMT -6
Working on my masters in Sport Administration...no interest in being a school admin. but A.D. is a different story. Plus, here down South (and in the midwest I believe), Head football and A.D. are often the same cat...and yeah, college is alot easier the 2nd time around!
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Post by dvw29 on Jul 3, 2008 8:29:23 GMT -6
I got my MS as part of an alternative teacher certification program. I took a 4 year break (5 years off total) while completing my BS and I did so much better in class once I got my first 60 hours done. Some of that had to do with maturity and some with moving onto my major/minor content areas.
Getting my masters was just another extention of that. Much more mature and specialized content area helped me. It still wasn't a walk in the park but it was managable. My MS was in Secondary Ed which does nothing for me but raise my base teaching pay and look good on a resume. I'd need another 18 hours to complete if I wanted to go into admin OR if I wanted to be considered for certian AD jobs which require it.
I'm not in a hurry to go back but most likely I will in the next 3-4 years to get the admin credentials.
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