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Post by coachtabales on Jul 1, 2008 7:25:20 GMT -6
I'm curious as to what other teams are doing (or have been doing) regarding having the kids tryout for positions in the beginning of the season? I know that other teams do it as well, and I like to do it every season, even if they are the same kids, because it gives everyone a chance to learn something new. I've just noticed that as the kids get older that the drills become more specific to positions as opposed to general football knowledge and conditioning. I'm needing to "redesign" the current model I've been using over the last few years and I've got some gaps of about 10 minutes each.
Two things to keep in mind, on the off chance that I'm not familiar with the drill that you do, I will need some specifics, and 2) These are Pre-HS kids. So please no "I check their will and desire to push through the pain with a Super-Suicide run up K2". I've gotten that before. Thanks
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Post by youthfootballguru on Jul 1, 2008 7:32:31 GMT -6
First day of practice our team has something similar to a pass punt and kick competion. We have 7 different stations. Passing, catching, field goal, kickoff, 25 yard dash, 4 cone agility, pushups and punting. We tally up the totals and the second day take a closer look at our top 5 passers and so on.
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Post by touchdownmaker on Jul 1, 2008 9:14:19 GMT -6
simple, any dad who coaches gets to put his kid at a skill position.
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Post by coachtabales on Jul 1, 2008 9:48:54 GMT -6
simple, any dad who coaches gets to put his kid at a skill position. Please tell me that you are joking.
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Post by touchdownmaker on Jul 1, 2008 10:00:28 GMT -6
No, that is the way it has been done around here for a very long time. HC usually has been elected on who his kid is. If he is a dominant athlete the program wants to keep him around by making daddy happy. Dad puts him at qb. Dad then recruits his drinking buddy, his mechanic, his chiropractor, someone who he works with and his mail man. Each of those guys has a kid who end up at tailback, fullback, wing and receiver and tight end.
later, when more guys volunteer, they can expect to have kids at linebacker, safety and defensive end.
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Post by davecisar on Jul 1, 2008 11:31:16 GMT -6
Ive heard of that happening but never saw it myself. most of my guys are harder on their kids than anyone else. When I ran my Omaha thing, over 1/2 our guys were typcially non dad coaches. The key is to get guys in it for the right reasons and have them accountable to someone.
Second is to have detailed position descriptions with very detailed requirements for each. Then you have competitive games that match up to the skills your are testing for. We use things like sumo, deer hunter, towel-tug of war, rabbit chases etc If Jr isnt in the top 2 for a required skill, he doesnt get a shot at that position.
All our evals are done in this fashion and we can rank the kids to top to bottom for a skill set.
We also do things later on as simple as a close quarters tackling drill, we are left to right into groups 1-2-3. Winners go to the left, losers to the right. In 10 minutes all our best players are in group 1, the worst in group 3. We do many of our base drills like this like blocking board drill etc. We can also do these things in count out or king of the hill format, overtly exposes who can and cant play. Is Junior consistently in group 1? If not he's not going to play a skill position.
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Post by touchdownmaker on Jul 1, 2008 14:34:47 GMT -6
key is ,...you do eval....our youth coaches do not.
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Post by signalzero on Jul 1, 2008 16:27:23 GMT -6
this year I'm dropping down to the 10-11's and my approach will be the same. Before I put kids in position I want to see their attitudes and how they carry themselves. Do they do just enough in the exercises or do they go all out. Are they leaders or followers. Do they understand the materials handed out prior to the season. How coachable do they appear. Do they give you a loud YES COACH or do they have no signs of respect.
I then allow the kids to try out for QB to get it out of the way. Although I pretty much have a good idea who my starter is, nothing pushes a player harder than competition. I do basic passing drills and also access the WR's and RB's at the same time. Once I get my QB's out of the way they go into individual QB drills and the same goes for WR's and RB's. The bigger solid kids will do offense and defensive line drills and everyone learns how to block in the early going. Personally I won't do much in the way of evaluating kickers early on. At 10-11 I doubt I will go for an extra points and will always go for 2. On kickoffs, if I don't have a kid that can kick it 30 yards, I'd rather go for the onsides and squib kicks. That can be taught later on in training camp. The other positions will get filled during the individual drills. I have 23 on my team and it's usually not that hard to determine which kids will play where based on size, speed and aggression.
Now this is just my personal preference for setting up a new team. Just thought I'd add my 2 cents.
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Post by pantherfb10 on Jul 1, 2008 17:36:49 GMT -6
I can tell you that is true... i heard from a coach who coached an 9-11 A team group of kids, they had a 100 lb OBL limit(if you know what that is) and they had a QB/RB combination that was about 5'5 97 lbs. The RB was the toughest runner in the league and the QB could throw the ball literally 50 yards they play with a TDJ. These kids were in 8th grade but still twelve in football years. So the OCs son is the backup and the the B team that had the worst left overs asked for the son to be their qb. Dad says no, junior is an A team player and plays QB on the A Team. Asks HC to bench the stud QB, HC says i cant hes the better player.OC says fine and boots the QB off the team down to the B team. HC gets pi$$ed and takes the RB 2 Starting lineman,FB,MLB, and top WRs down to the leftover team. B Team goes 10-0 blows everyone out QB sets record for passing TDs(38 yes 38) and A team goes 1-9 OC quits next year. Serves him right
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Post by signalzero on Jul 1, 2008 20:15:42 GMT -6
The first thing I tell my the parents in the opening meeting is that I don't play Daddy ball. Nothing drives me crazier. To me, my son would have to be better than another kid to play that position. Equal to or less than will not get him the start. Coaches get into the game for the wrong reasons sometimes.
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Post by pantherfb10 on Jul 1, 2008 21:26:09 GMT -6
Amen, its terrible because you have good kids that know the game and are on the bench cause Daddy has JR at RB than them
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