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May 7, 2008 9:12:24 GMT -6
Post by fbdoc on May 7, 2008 9:12:24 GMT -6
How many of you have had a full BFS Motivational Clinic for your team? We use the BFS program and have had good results but since I'm coming into a new school, I'm thinking about having the full clinic. I've seen the success stories in the magazine but does anyone have their own personal story to share?
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May 7, 2008 10:32:21 GMT -6
Post by bulldogoption on May 7, 2008 10:32:21 GMT -6
Doc,
IMO, getting the other coaches/teams to buy into and use BFS is more important than a motivational clinic.
If the other sports aren't going to use the system, the clinic is only for your kids.
At a previous school, we had a motivational clnic from BFS and it was a huge waste of money. I'm not really sure why we had it. You have to know your kids/school/coaches.
The guys from BFS are great. But if the kids/coaches aren't ready to accept the motivation it can be a waste of money, from my experience.
That was at a HS of 600 kids. All athletes came to the clinic.
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May 7, 2008 11:28:38 GMT -6
Post by fbdoc on May 7, 2008 11:28:38 GMT -6
The program has been fine - I installed it and for the most part our coaches & PE teachers have done a good job. This past year we got a young pup in as one of our HS PE guys and the new AD (I'm the Dean) has let him do his own thing, which is basically nothing.
Since I'm going to a new school as the AD, the thought of having a full motivational clinic - my new school really has NO weight program to speak of - has got into my head. I understand and agree completely about having the main coaches on board and I don't see that as a problem here. I just wanted to hear from those who have had the full treatment how effective they felt it was. Sounds like it was not a great experience for Bulldogoption - any others?
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May 7, 2008 11:51:40 GMT -6
Post by knighter on May 7, 2008 11:51:40 GMT -6
Call Greg Thomas at Humboldt Comm. Schools District in Iowa (He is either in the HS or MS). He had a full clinic and has reaped great reward from it. Or call Tom Wilson at Dowling Catholic HS (also Iowa) and talk to him.
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May 7, 2008 11:54:52 GMT -6
Post by groundchuck on May 7, 2008 11:54:52 GMT -6
The last school I was at I had two clinics back to back years. I wanted to try and get all the coaches on the same pages (as was mentioned earlier) and I think a clinic is good for that.
The clinician was good at teaching the lifts, stretching, dot drill etc, most of which I knew already but there is always that small coaching point that makes a big difference which I was able to pick up from him.
I think the biggest thing I took away from the clinic was when I asked him what he thought. He told me I had nice kids, but little to no administrative support, no support from other coaches, and that the kids did not care about winning. He made these observations from dealing with the kids over two days and seeing how they approached him and the whole clinic. Nice kids, mostly respectful, but did not care about how many games they won.
I had him back a year later, he observed the exact same things, and told me in his opinion I was wasting my time and GTFO of Dodge.
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May 7, 2008 15:03:45 GMT -6
Post by semi-pro64 on May 7, 2008 15:03:45 GMT -6
We spend a lot of money to bring in a speak to do the "BFS Motivational Clinic" last year............. we were 0-10. Wasn't my choice to do it, I really thought it was a waste of time. We have enough problems to fixes.
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May 7, 2008 17:08:52 GMT -6
Post by phantom on May 7, 2008 17:08:52 GMT -6
We've run BFS for several years. We had a clinic the first year but have not had one since. I think that it's useful. The greatest value, I think, is teaching the coaches the lifts and how to do the record keeping etc. I think it's worth it for that reason. I don't know how much value the motivational stuff had long-term. Maybe the kids picked up on it and has been passed on to some extent over the years. Peer pressure is great motivation.
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May 7, 2008 17:56:43 GMT -6
Post by fbdoc on May 7, 2008 17:56:43 GMT -6
Thank you gentlemen. We will see what happens.
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May 7, 2008 20:31:48 GMT -6
Post by wildcat on May 7, 2008 20:31:48 GMT -6
The clinics are pretty expensive. For the money they will charge to come in and do the clinic, you can probably buy 1 really nice squat rack, an adjustable bench, a Texas power bar, and a nice 300-lbs weight set.
If you have a good sense about how to manage a weight program and how to effectively coach lifters, the clinic really isn't neccessary.
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May 9, 2008 23:24:38 GMT -6
Post by paydirt18 on May 9, 2008 23:24:38 GMT -6
We had a clinic during the first week of Feb., hosted by coach Jeff Scurran. He was incredible.
At our school I am really up agaisnt the wall in terms of trying to change an entire school mentality about our sports programs. Coach Scurran encoruaged me to just focus on my football program and that if my kids work hard there will be a trickle down effect. He was right. It has been a slow process but teachers and coaches are beginning to ask me for info on the program after seeing my kids so involved.
All of my kids who have bought into BFS have made incredible gains thus far. Before BFS, I had 0 kids who could power clean over 200 pounds. As of today (2nd week of May) we now have 9 kids who already can clean 200+. That may not sound like much to some established prorams, but to me this is a huge step.
I highly suggest that if your program decides to give BFS a try to ask for Coach Scurran.....I can't tell you enough how motivating he was.
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May 12, 2008 8:27:04 GMT -6
Post by groundchuck on May 12, 2008 8:27:04 GMT -6
Jeff Scurran did both of my clinics and he was very good. I also find him to be very loyal in terms of help afterward.
He has been around a long time and seen it all. Jeff could also sell "ice to Eskimos". I mean that as a compliment. Part of the reason he wins everywhere he goes is because people buy into what he's "selling".... (which is how to win games).
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May 14, 2008 13:26:26 GMT -6
Post by jm1155 on May 14, 2008 13:26:26 GMT -6
As far as clinics and motivation don't waste your time and money. That's why you interviewed and hired on quality coaches that share the same philosophy you do. They buy in or they work somewhere else.
We do not use the record keeping books...I viewed it as 3 extra work days we had to teach kids how to keep records in a book, not to mention teaching coaches how to teach the kids how to keep records in their books. Too much!
We use the computer based program and could not have asked for better results. It is individualized, the kids are still competing on their last set, and it is easy to keep up with the kid's progress. Great for summer workouts too! It keeps the kids motivated.
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May 14, 2008 13:36:58 GMT -6
Post by groundchuck on May 14, 2008 13:36:58 GMT -6
We have the BFS computer program at school. It is good and challenges the kids. I wish it had more built in flexibility though in terms of tweaking sets/reps.
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May 14, 2008 21:31:59 GMT -6
Post by clloyd on May 14, 2008 21:31:59 GMT -6
I agree, we have used the computer system for awhile but more flexibility would allow the kids to change it up more.
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