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Post by poweriguy on Apr 17, 2008 19:00:22 GMT -6
abcnews.go.com/Sports/story?id=4672892&page=1
The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission has begun investigating potential hazards from lead in some artificial turf sports fields across the country.
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Synthetic playing surfaces are increasingly popular because they are durable and easy to maintain. But two fields in New Jersey, The College of New Jersey's Lions' Stadium Field in Ewing and Frank Sinatra Park in Hoboken, were closed this week after state health regulators said they found high levels of lead in turf fiber samples.
The CPSC said Wednesday that it is "looking into the use of lead in outdoor synthetic field surfaces."
Jeez. I guess we just need to lock all our kids in the basement and not let them out till they are 45.
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Post by tog on Apr 17, 2008 19:12:26 GMT -6
yeah
we dieseled the lines in our practice fields
ohhhhh noooooo
the regulations and hand wringing weenieness of this country right now makes me fear for the future
and makes me know i am in the right job
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Post by smu92 on Apr 17, 2008 19:50:56 GMT -6
Funny you say that Tog. I just had my first experience at dieseling a field two days ago when I went to visit the school I will be coaching at next year. I'm sure it's against all kinds of laws now days, but we needed some dad gumm lines on our practice fields. Good times. I can remember practicing on a freshly dieseled field when I was in high school (10 years ago). God forbid our kids play a game on a little bit of lead.
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Post by kurtbryan on Apr 17, 2008 20:56:35 GMT -6
I love the new field turf we have, love it. Don't know what dieseling a field is...but I am gonna agree about too many hand-wringing weenies in the world. Good grief, let kids play and have fun, they have the rest of their lives to be adults. KB  |
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Post by tog on Apr 17, 2008 20:59:46 GMT -6
I love the new field turf we have, love it. Don't know what dieseling a field is...but I am gonna agree about too many hand-wringing weenies in the world. Good grief, let kids play and have fun, they have the rest of their lives to be adults. KB They would probably hang you for it out there. Basically, pouring diesel fuel in lines to kill the grass on a practice field so you don't have to paint lines every week. |
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Post by pegleg on Apr 17, 2008 21:00:27 GMT -6
yeah we dieseled the lines in our practice fields ohhhhh noooooo the regulations and hand wringing weenieness of this country right now makes me fear for the future and makes me know i am in the right job and as a lawyer you should know............... |
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Post by kurtbryan on Apr 17, 2008 21:38:54 GMT -6
 Wow! Gotta LOVE Texas! I am going to ramp up the first-ever California Diesel Lining Field Marking Association. Every employee of the new CDLFMA will be ELIGIBLE to work, dependent upon how they Align and what day of the week they work, and who is "Covering" for them that day or not...   KB
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Post by saintrad on Apr 17, 2008 22:30:45 GMT -6
I love the new field turf we have, love it. Don't know what dieseling a field is...but I am gonna agree about too many hand-wringing weenies in the world. Good grief, let kids play and have fun, they have the rest of their lives to be adults. KB They would probably hang you for it out there. Basically, pouring diesel fuel in lines to kill the grass on a practice field so you don't have to paint lines every week. actually back in Oregon we took a different approach thatn dieseling... we did high concentration of fertilizers to "chalk the lines in". This burns the grass and before anyone plays on it we would cut the grass to clean the fertilizer off of the practice area. |
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Post by k on Apr 17, 2008 23:54:35 GMT -6
God forbid our kids play a game on a little bit of lead. Hell don't you guys eat paint chips down there anyway? |
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Post by fatkicker on Apr 18, 2008 6:16:44 GMT -6
nothing like fresh diesel in the spring time.......
is that a country song?
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Post by airman on Apr 18, 2008 14:31:55 GMT -6
it makes sense that there would be lead in turf. most teams have rubber tires growned up and in the turf. there is metal in rubber car tires. steal belted radials.
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Post by burtledog on Apr 18, 2008 14:50:06 GMT -6
Next thing you know you guys will be using saccharin as fertilizer. Poor sweet loving cancer ridden rats!
GB
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Post by moball on Apr 18, 2008 17:25:36 GMT -6
With the high price of diesel, I believe I'll try E-85 unleaded this year.  |
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Post by lionhart on Apr 18, 2008 20:11:51 GMT -6
actually, the field at the college of new jersey is the old-school astro turf... ot the new field turf. this is also the case at cochrane stadium in jersey city which has also been closed for lead levels. the field at sinatra park in hoboken was field turf i believe. you know what, being a lifelong "joisy" resident, i can tell you that lead is pretty much the least of our worries as far as environment goes.
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Post by coachorr on Apr 19, 2008 11:14:40 GMT -6
WHAT ABOUT MERSA? That scares the h-e-double hockey sticks oiut of me.
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Post by airman on Apr 19, 2008 11:21:40 GMT -6
this could just be a city thing to. Jersey has been a industrial center for years and NY,Ny is right next door. could be pollution caused from industrial leakage, AKA the LOVE channel.
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Post by rip60zgo on Apr 19, 2008 11:52:16 GMT -6
When you are teaching your kids the proper fundamentals for tackling so as not to injure themselves or others, be sure to coach them up about not eating portions of the field.
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Post by devilsadvocate on Apr 19, 2008 13:09:02 GMT -6
WHAT ABOUT MERSA? That scares the h-e-double hockey sticks oiut of me. We are getting ready for our third season on field turf. In the spring and summer, we spray the field once a month with an anti-microbial (sp?) agent until the first frost. We have still had a few cases of MRSA, but it is hard to tell if the field is the only cause. |
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Post by major2222 on Apr 20, 2008 18:23:50 GMT -6
there are actually numerous studies going on right now regarding field turf and chemicals leaching from the rubber. Apparently rubber is not the only thing that composes the pellets. there are hundreds of chemicals also included. I have read the list and it is scary. I'm not sure if I feel comfortable having my own kids breathing that stuff in. I maybe a weeny now for not letting them play on it but at least they will be around and healthy as I get older.
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Post by td4tc on Apr 20, 2008 19:45:36 GMT -6
i double as an orthopod and HS coach.we saw a significant increased number of major knee injuries(ACL and more) in our first year with field turf on the two local university teams. they say the turf has to "wear in" and it may have been a fluke but the number of knee OR's was worrisome.one of our local university teams is going back to their old grass stadium as a result.
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Post by drift on Apr 24, 2008 8:55:35 GMT -6
td4tc, you said there was a jump in the first year... are there any numbers nationally on 'knee OR's' for turf vs grass? Just curious
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Post by poweriguy on Apr 24, 2008 10:25:26 GMT -6
Yes, field turf is nice, but wouldn't it be nice to have custodians who actually turned on the sprinklers once in awhile? The last school we were at, the fields were criminal.
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Post by td4tc on Apr 24, 2008 15:13:09 GMT -6
don't know about national numbers for knee injuries for newer field turf but can try to find out. would be good to know.hopefully our experience is a fluke.
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Post by drift on Apr 24, 2008 15:43:53 GMT -6
If it were strictly the switch from grass to turf causing the injuries wouldn't there be a similar trend for incoming HS/college freshman etc. that are new to a turf field? It would be an interesting stat, but it might be a scary stat....
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Post by sweep26 on Apr 24, 2008 17:39:59 GMT -6
Irregardless of these suppositions, we would love to have Field-Turf at our facility!!!
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Post by schultbear74 on Apr 24, 2008 18:44:01 GMT -6
I chewed on lead paint chips when I was a child
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Post by drift on Apr 24, 2008 20:54:47 GMT -6
I say we diesel the turf field......
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Post by drift on May 2, 2008 21:51:00 GMT -6
this is for devilsadvocate. I may not be a doctor, but I can say with real good confidence that MRSA is not a turf or field problem, but a locker room one. Warm wet environment, unwashed practice gear.... that's your source..
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Post by cjkal30 on May 3, 2008 11:37:56 GMT -6
Sinatra field is also the old astro turf.
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Post by lionhart on May 3, 2008 12:16:17 GMT -6
sinatra park field is in the process of being re-done with field turf. cochrane stadium soon to follow
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Wow! Gotta LOVE Texas!
