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Post by projectpat2 on Apr 6, 2008 13:31:18 GMT -6
im the new oc and i need help i have playbook to use which is a spread but how do i go about implementing the offense and call plays do subsitutions and other duties as a oc help me please my email is projectpat2@yahoo.com
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Post by los on Apr 6, 2008 15:51:58 GMT -6
What age group is this? How much good ,dependable help will you have? If its young kids, like 12 and under, and you'll be doing the offense pretty much by yourself.......you may wanna just rip one page out of the running game part and a half a page out of the passing game section or vice versa....and go with that....lol.......when we got to the point of actually learning "how" to execute a play.....it was a lot of walk thru stuff....asking and answering questions, about blocking......aiming points....routes.....ball handling/fakes....steps.....rules.....etc...really dissecting each play, into 11 job descriptions vs the common defenses we played against, and stressing the importance of each job, to the positive outcome of the play(and whats more, you'll probably be doing this all season long, till they all understand it)......calling plays in each series was fairly easy, since we didn't have many....and used basically 2 formations......you could substitute by position....by skill groups, i.e. different sets of backs, TE's, recievers, etc.....just whatever is easiest to get the most kids into the game, while still being able to function on offense......add = locating a football or kicking tee, when you need one....constant equipment repair......nursing hurt feelings and little bumps and bruises.....answering questions, while you're trying to think ahead......counting players on the field.....and a bunch of other stuff I can't remember....to the "other duties" during the game, part.....and you're in business, as a youth ball coach
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Post by ufpena on Apr 6, 2008 20:42:30 GMT -6
Be it youth group or older, establish your base play. By that I mean that youpick a play that will easily set up other plays. Work your base play until the kids know it inside and out. Then, since it is a set up play, you begin to build on that play. For example, If you are going to use the concept theory, first implement that concept until the athletes know it inside and out. IN the run and shoot from Tiger Ellison, one series was the popcorn series (which was a derivative of the old buck series. The base play was the fb trap. From that play came the sweep, bootleg pass, reverse and the throwback. You see, one sets up the other. It makes learning easier.
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Post by coachdoug on Apr 6, 2008 23:24:16 GMT -6
im the new oc and i need help i have playbook to use which is a spread but how do i go about implementing the offense and call plays do subsitutions and other duties as a oc help me please my email is projectpat2@yahoo.com Wow - that's a pretty broad question, and a lot will depend the age group you are coaching, their talent level, what minimum play requirements, if any, you have, etc. I'll assume you have 11-12 yr olds, and about a 10-play minimum play req, so here are a few ideas: Implementing the OffenseFirst of all, as los suggested, pare down the playbook to something manageable like 2-3 run series with play action off each, and 1 or 2 pass series. By series, I mean a grouping a plays that have similar action, and play off each other (do a search on this subject if you want a better definition - it has been discussed at length in other threads). That should give you a maximum of about 15 plays. Of those, just start with about 5-6 (1 run series and a couple pass plays). You can add from there over the course of the season and maybe put in all 15 plays by the end of the regular season. You are far better off running fewer plays really well than a bunch of plays mediocre. Putting in too many plays is a classic first year coach mistake - don't do it. As ufpena said, start with a base play and build from there. You said you would be running spread, so let's assume you want to run zone read. Depending on your kids' age, experience level and talent, you may not want to actually run a zone blocking scheme or have the QB make real option reads - that's okay, you can still run the same basic series with simplied blocking and pre-called action for the QB. So, your first play is zone read (or something similar but simplified). Make sure all the kids know who to block and how to adjust depending on every variation of what the defense might do (i.e. alignment, stunts, blitzes, etc.) Then add, one at a time, Dart, Power-G, Counter-Trey, Sweep, and a play action pass off the same action. All these plays will look similar (at least in terms of backfield action). Another possble series from spread would be the fly sweep series, which has been discussed at lenght in other threads. Other plays in this series include Trap, G, Counter, and PA passes. With regard to passes, run mostly PA off your runs, but make sure you put in a bubble screen to your slot receiver and a tunnel screen to your wideouts. These are really easy to complete, and are highly effective, especially if you have some decent athletes. One other thing - spend the majority of your practice time in individual skills sessions. A common rookie coaching mistake is to practice team offense and scrimmage too much. Ten - fifteen minutes of scrimmage per night is more than enough. You'll get a lot more reps in and see a lot more improvement in skills if you work the line and backs separately for most of practice. Play CallingFirst of all, script your first 10 plays. Do this before your main offensive practice each week, so your players can practice the script in order, with substitutions. When scripting, keep a few things in mind: 1) Down & Distance - you can only really do this for the first 2-3 plays, then try to use plays that will be appropriate in any situation. Try to stay on script unless something really unusual comes up - like you have 1st and Goal on the 2 and the next play on the script is a deep fade. Have a few situational plays prepared for those unusual situations (backed up on our own goalline, inside their 10, 4th & short, etc.), but otherwise stay on script. 2) Horizontal Position. Try to have some idea of whether the ball will be on the right hash, the left hash or somewhere in the middle and script your play accordingly - for instance, don't script a rollout pass right immediately after a sweep right. 3) Put in enough variety to test most of their defense - run off-tackle to both sides, run wide to both sides, run up the middle, and test both corners with passes. The whole reason you are running series is to make play calling easier and more effective. Run your base play often as long as it is effective. Eventually the defense will adjust, and when they do watch for where they leave themselves vulerable and attack there. For instance, let's assume you are running zone read (or some youth modification of it). You are consistently getting 5-7 yards because your QB is making good reads on the DE, and everyone else in the box is blocked so either the OLB comes crashing in from the outside or the safety comes up to make the tackle. If the OLB starts cheating in, run the bubble (or tunnel) screen - if the wideout makes any block at all on the corner, the slot will have a lot of room to run. Burn 'em once or twice and that OLB will stay out on the slot. If the safety starts cheating up, you can run Dart or Sweep, which should catch the safety out of position, or PA with a deep post or fade to one of your slots - no OLB should be able to cover your slots without safety help anyway, and if the OLB is also cheating to help with the zone read - TD! SubstitutionsAgain, I'm assuming you have a minimum play rule (MPR). If you don't, take this with a grain of salt. Not taking the MPR seriously is a common rookie coach mistake. You must start running your minimum play players (MPPs) immediately (I start subbing on the second play of the game) and continue running as many as you can every play until they are done. The goal should be to have the MPR done by halftime. In our league, any players that don't have their plays done by the beginning of the 4th quarter must enter the game and stay in until their plays are done. I can't tell you how many games I've seen lost because some inexperienced coach had to put 5-6 MPPs in the game together at the beginning of the 4th quarter. This is one of the main reasons for scripting, as I described above. Look at each scripted play and sub for every non-essential position (for instance, on a sweep, you can probable sub the backside G & T and both backside receivers). When you practice the script during the week, practice with those subs coming in and going out so they know exactly when they'll be in and out of the game. Also, give the script to whatever parent is assigned to keep track of plays so he knows who to look for on each play. If you do this, you should be able to get 50-70% done with the MPR in the first 10 plays. If you don't remember anything else - just keep it simple!! I hope that helps. Good luck to you.
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Post by projectpat2 on Apr 7, 2008 15:14:45 GMT -6
thanks coaches i have 13-15 yr olds with a 165lbs weight that goes up 1lb every week and no minimum play req.and im not doing true zone blocking i got the actual concept on what i wanna at a clinic last month in orlando
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Post by lbdad on Apr 7, 2008 16:07:51 GMT -6
if you are linked to the local high school check with the head coach if you run his plays he should help with a clinic and help with alot of your Q,evrything i would tell you is in the above post "great site" good luck
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Post by los on Apr 8, 2008 8:51:11 GMT -6
OOOP's....13-15 yr olds.....wow.....can't get use to these older age kids, playing pop warner or something? Here....these guys would be playing for the school teams....the better 15 yr olds, may even be varsity players, lol! Sorry!
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Post by catz1 on Apr 8, 2008 10:03:58 GMT -6
Hi Coach... sent you an email... hope you are getting what you need. Good luck.
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Post by coachdoug on Apr 8, 2008 10:50:08 GMT -6
thanks coaches i have 13-15 yr olds with a 165lbs weight that goes up 1lb every week and no minimum play req.and im not doing true zone blocking i got the actual concept on what i wanna at a clinic last month in orlando Okay, that changes things a bit. I think most of what I wrote still applies, but here are a few adjustments for your situation: Implementing the Offense - You should be able to throw a bit more than with younger kids. I would assume that this would be your preference running from a spread set - not necessarily as spread is a great run formation, too. There are a bunch of threads on this site that discuss Cloverdale/Robinson & Airraid - you can use a bunch of those concepts depending on exacly what's in the playbook you been given to run. Certainly there are a bunch of drills (Settle & Noose, etc.) that you should probably run daily. You can probably also increase the total # of plays by about 20% - my original philosophy that less is better than more still applies, though. Play Calling - You can probably add a few audibles, hot reads & check-with-mes that I wouldn't advise with the younger kids. For instance, in your base (2x2) spread formation, any time the OLB doesn't respect the slot, your QB should automatically audible to either a bubble or tunnel screen. Substitutions - with no MPR, you can disregard most of my earlier comments. However, I assume that you still want to play everyone - I think Dave Cisar's philosophy of "anyone that practices, plays" is a good approach. So you should have some sort of substitution plan to make sure everyone gets in the game. Probably as important, though, since I'm assuming that one of your goals is to help develop your players for the next level, is to get as many players on the field in meaningful minutes (as opposed to just a few isolated plays). What I've usually done is worked a rotation. For instance, I usually run a 5-3, so I will rotated 4 LBs at the 3 positions. I'll have one Sam, one Mike and one Will and then one guy that is versatile enough to play all three positions, then I rotate him through those positions throughout the game. This way, I have 4 guys getting 75% of the defensive snaps instead of 3 getting 100% - they all get some rest to stay fresh during games and I have no dropoff if one gets hurt. Of course, you have to have 4 guys that can play, so this is less practical if you have little talent. If possible, I'll do this with DEs (3 for 2 positions) DT/NG (4 for 3), CB/S (4 for 3), OL (7 for 5), wideouts (3 for 2 or 4 for 3), TEs/Wings (3 for 2), and RBs (2 for 1 or 3 for 2).
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Post by coach4life on Apr 20, 2008 12:26:00 GMT -6
Before you implement your spread, you might want to thing about putting in a belly series. It's simple, gives you a hard-nosed dive to establish some physicality and has multiple plays off of the same action. From an offset I with the FB to the TE, the QB reverses out of every play and the FB dives to the B gap. Here is the series:
3x Belly (Give to the FB) 3x Belly Pop Pass (Fake the dive, hit the TE on an arc release when the OLB starts attacking the dive) 3x Belly Option (fake the belly and turn it into an option) 3x Belly Flip to 4 (Fake the belly then flip it to the TB running to the backside)
All 4 are simple to install and simple to run; in terms of time investment to benefit, it's about as good as it gets at the youth level.
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