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Post by mariner42 on Sept 10, 2012 14:47:48 GMT -6
I'm normally not a sucker for youtube videos, but this one got me pretty fired up. I'm going to upload it to HUDL tonight for our kids to see.
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Post by mariner42 on Sept 10, 2012 14:46:21 GMT -6
MS Visio lets you create just about any kind of diagram you want from scratch. You set the scale, everything.
PPT lets you create a simpler version while still being complex enough to show things like shades, etc.
Playmaker is also an option, but usually most folks don't have access to it.
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Post by mariner42 on Sept 10, 2012 13:33:36 GMT -6
We are currently 2-0 and been in a having great success with technique transitioning on the field. We only do 10 mins of fundys on defense each day. But we always start the day with some sort of competition before we practice anything. I've seen more technique used when we line up in Oklahoma drill or 1 on 1s. There's something about letting your teammates see you whip someone or getting beat before they realize they need to use technique Glad it's working for you but I can't endorse this method. I don't believe that Oklahoma improves technique. I believe that you improve technique through repetition of doing it right. I don't think of that category of drills as helping your technique, but he touches on something that a very successful coach I know preaches on frequently: they start every practice banging heads before teaching and start every game the same way. He really believes it mentally primes them because they burn off adrenalin and learn to focus after getting after it early.
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Post by mariner42 on Sept 10, 2012 0:35:42 GMT -6
You can be even tempered as long as you're willing to be cold. If a kid f***s up or makes a mistake or doesn't go hard enough, you don't need to scream and holler and throw your visor and flip the cooler, you need to have a reaction in mind that effectively corrects the issue and you can't be afraid to hurt feelings in how you do it. Like the saying goes, if you want to make an omelet, you've got to break a few eggs.
But yeah, your HC is full of crap, too.
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Post by mariner42 on Sept 9, 2012 1:12:13 GMT -6
I blame Chip Kelly, he's defeated defense.
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Post by mariner42 on Sept 8, 2012 16:45:26 GMT -6
Have you explained how and in what situations these drills are useful? For example, I can do wrong-arm drills all day long, but if I'm assuming that the kids know to wrong arm kickout blocks, it may be all in vain.
Do you transfer drills from individual settings to group to team? Again, if I work DL wrong-arms in indy, do we run plays in inside run that force the DL to wrong arm? And again in team?
Just some thoughts.
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Post by mariner42 on Sept 7, 2012 11:51:37 GMT -6
You cannot be anything other than yourself. Your personality type doesn't matter as long as you hold the kids accountable to their effort, teach them their techniques, and discipline them as needed.
You can be soft spoken and garner respect/fear/admiration/whatever you want, you can be loud and be ignored all the time. Just have a plan.
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Post by mariner42 on Sept 7, 2012 11:46:28 GMT -6
When I was in 8th grade, I hit a kid pretty hard pretty significantly late. His dad ran {censored} near onto the field yelling at the ref to throw me out. I was getting ready to hit the dad if he got much closer. That event also marked the final instance of me being ejected from organized sports (basketball, volleyball, baseball, wrestling, and finally football). Good times. Not to hijack or anything, but how in the hel! do you get ejected from volleyball??? I went up for a block and ended up kicking a kid square in the balls under the net, then laughed because it was pretty funny to me. The other instances: wrestling-illegal throw that hurt the kid, baseball-rolled/threw my bat after a strikeout, basketball-tackled a kid while going for a loose ball. Never got removed from a track meet, though!
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Post by mariner42 on Sept 6, 2012 23:58:38 GMT -6
When I was in 8th grade, I hit a kid pretty hard pretty significantly late. His dad ran damn near onto the field yelling at the ref to throw me out. I was getting ready to hit the dad if he got much closer.
That event also marked the final instance of me being ejected from organized sports (basketball, volleyball, baseball, wrestling, and finally football). Good times.
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Post by mariner42 on Sept 6, 2012 22:06:29 GMT -6
Never waver, don't be afraid to lose games to establish a principle or maintain your philosophy.
Have you thought about ritualistically sacrificing one of them? Just a thought.
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Post by mariner42 on Sept 6, 2012 22:03:43 GMT -6
you know that 9 out of 10 times, practice on the first day of school is going to suck I think you're starting on your way when you've been through at least 10 first day of school practices to get that 9/10 ratio. Still 2 to go for me
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Post by mariner42 on Sept 5, 2012 14:46:57 GMT -6
Inside Run is one of those periods where you get better as a team, in my opinion.
Does the scout defense know that it's run? Yup. Makes for tougher sledding for the offense, which is important because they need to be worked as hard as possible in practice in order to prep for games. It's one of those periods where you can (and should) really bang on each other a bit.
From the defensive perspective, IR is a big period because you need to stop the run, period. It's always a bit uglier running IR with the scout offense, but you cannot ignore the importance of defending the interior of your defense.
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Post by mariner42 on Sept 4, 2012 23:50:43 GMT -6
Idea = Stolen.
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Post by mariner42 on Sept 4, 2012 21:17:51 GMT -6
I do love experimenting with offense though. I feel like it's the best way to learn an offense - to play with it at the end of a season. I think if you give them a date, like two to three weeks at the end of the year, where they can put in some different stuff to test it out on grass, that might be a nice compromise. If your QB doesn't have the reads down by then, then you probably wont by the end of the season anyways. To me, this is a spring or summer thing where you're less strapped for time. You're not doing it in pads so it's a different look, but you can get a feel for what's working about it and what isn't.
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Post by mariner42 on Sept 3, 2012 23:25:53 GMT -6
Last year... Week 1 we gave up 35 points. Week 2 we gave up 21. Feeling good about Week 3. 69 points and a general sh!tshow of a defensive effort that left me wondering how I could be so wrong about us.
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Post by mariner42 on Sept 3, 2012 23:23:36 GMT -6
And later coach B went attack mode on me and my offensive beliefs I had this bullspit going on last season within my defensive staff. It drove me crazy all season and eventually cost me the job. I'm sure your guy isn't the sociopath/sh!tbag that mine was, but you may need to consider having a conversation with him where you explain that you'll listen and consider and appreciate and then when you're ready to move on, he better be, too. If he can't do that, well... ain't no one irreplaceable. In the future, I'll be doing a lot less soliciting of ideas in the future and I'll be much more selective with who I do it from. Until I know all my people are actually MY people, that's how I'll handle my business because I had such a situation spiral beyond my control. I'm all for empowering assistants, I actually believe in it pretty strongly, but I won't repeat previous mistakes in that aspect of things.
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Post by mariner42 on Aug 28, 2012 12:44:39 GMT -6
A couple research habits that helped me learn a lot and that still get mileage: 1-Sort by replies, read all the threads with lots of replies. I've read most've the big threads in the defense sections, for example. 2-Sort by subject, alphabetically. Think about what you're wanting to know and potential thread titles that would be relevant, then go find them. Example: wanted more info on Lochness' Belly/Double Dive series. So, went through all the B's (Belly) and D's (Double Dive) looking for info. I also went through Loch's post history a bit, too. In the most flattering and harmless way possible, I assure you.
As to the topic as a whole, this is a bit of a rough subject with the life and development of any message board because it invariably leads to a degree of repetition for the older/longer tenured members. For example: I browse a site called Reddit a lot and one of the subsections I dig is the male fashion subsection (I'm 27 and single, f*** off). Unfortunately, it is always full of people who are fairly clueless about how to dress themselves asking for advice on how to dress themselves and it gets repetitive for the people running the show. Buy clothes that fit, throw out your Star Wars T shirts, tuck your shirt in, etc. It's not unlike people coming to the defensive section and asking how to run a 4-3 defense: teach them to align, teach them their assignment, get them to run to the ball, slowly add complexity.
In a way, it's our 'civic duty' to keep answering the same questions. But it does get really, really, really boring and repetitive. It's easier to deal with specific questions like "How do you teach 9 tech OLBs to wrong arm?" than "How do I teach to spill?", but learning to ask a good question is harder than it seems and I'm not sure how to accelerate that process, to be honest.
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Post by mariner42 on Aug 24, 2012 13:11:11 GMT -6
Refs have a bit of a stranglehold on tempo, unfortunately. If they don't want to match your tempo, there's not a lot you can do about them. Best route is to control what you can control: being lined up as it's spotted and snapping the ball ASAP. Hopefully you create a sense of pressure on the referees by constantly snapping quick and making it obvious that you're waiting for them...
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Post by mariner42 on Aug 24, 2012 13:07:51 GMT -6
There was a great thread a while back about this where someone chimed in with a research study they participated in. Basically the conclusion they arrived at was that players wearing ankle braces with low-top cleats and consistent re-adjustment during exercise was the best route to take for safety, especially since taping is known to decrease in effectiveness over time, while braces can be tightened again.
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Post by mariner42 on Aug 21, 2012 21:18:44 GMT -6
Think about when Spurrier came into the SEC; he did not have the talent to beat Alabama, Georgia, UT, and Auburn at their game. However, he did have the personnel to beat them at his game, not to mention the fact rest of the league's defensive personnel and schemes were geared to stop the run, so as you know I'm sure, it took the SEC some time to adjust. Think about how much more damage Spurrier could have done offensively if he had been coaching back in the 60s rather than playing. You're touching on another of the reasons WHY and HOW certain schemes have come into existence: constraint. I'm going to expose myself for the video game nerd that I am, but here goes: There's a guy out there named Sean Plott, although he's mostly known as Day9, his video game handle. Day9 became famous for being a professional Starcraft player in the mid 2000's and now hosts a Starcraft 2 online streaming show called the Day9 Daily, where he teaches people how to be a better gamer. There's actually a tremendous amount to be learned from him in settings beyond just video games, but it helps to know wtf is going on when he talks and shows replays, etc. Sean does something every Monday called Funday Monday, where he challenges his users to send in recordings of their recent games. The catch comes in that he puts out a new CONSTRAINT every week. One week players will only be able to build attacking units AFTER 10 minutes have gone by, another they will have to only build the most basic of units, another they can only attack their opponents when within a certain distance of their own buildings, etc etc. What's interesting is that by establishing a constraint on the players, he opens up the opportunity for remarkable creativity and innovation. Why is this? Because when you can only look at the world through a certain lens with only certain resources available, your perspective changes out of necessity, which is commonly known as the mother of invention. It's not uncommon for the Funday Monday segment to be both hilarious and groundbreaking because of the failures in innovation, but also the triumphs. So how the hell am I going to connect Starcraft to what you're talking about? Well, consider how these systems evolved. Gary Patterson was at a mid level school and couldn't recruit enough linebackers or defensive linemen to hack it with the big boys. Hal Mumme and Mike Leach were at schools that couldn't recruit 225 lb halfbacks to tote the rock 30 times a game. So, they worked within their constraints. Gary Patterson took running backs, put them in the weight room, and lined them up at defensive end. He stopped trying to put out 3 linebackers and started fielding 5 safeties, because he didn't have enough quality linebackers and he could recruit a lot more quality safeties. Mike Leach stopped trying to beat coverages with speed (go outrun that cornerback and we'll throw you the ball) and instead starting beating coverages by using brains/guile (sit down where they ain't). Why? Because they weren't as good and they needed to level the playing field. Instead of playing on Goliath's terms, they accepted their status as David and started looking for ways to make that work for them. That's another part of the how and the why to your question. Consider a school like USC, Bama, or Texas. They will never do anything unusual because they don't really have constraints. Virtually unlimited budget, recruiting the whole country, star power alumni, tradition, TV exposure, you name it. So, they will never truly innovate ala Patterson or Leach/Mumme/Holgo, instead they will stay within their lack of constraint and enjoy the easy life. This is how you have Ga Tech running PJ Flexbone, Hawaii/SMU running JJ's RnS, and Piedmont High running the A-11. People coaching in constrained situations (fanbase, money, talent, culture, whatever) trying to get by the best they can. Just some thoughts.
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Post by mariner42 on Aug 16, 2012 22:50:35 GMT -6
Coach, that's a good point about the RB breaking contain. In the particular situation you mentioned, a similar advantage could be gained by going to trips and running to the single WR side, or even going closed trips with a TE, am I correct? First example, not so much; Second, yes. Think of it like population density. Decrease the population density of an area in order to increase your room to operate. By having a WR split out, your population density is more evenly distributed (albeit slightly) which creates the whole 'defend the whole field' notion, but it also creates more opportunities for more defenders to make the stop. In a lot of ways this is a circular argument on both sides, imo, but the 'defend the whole field' bit is particularly bad, but effective, rhetoric. As to the why... There's no any one reason, but I think that familiarity with the passing game and technology's proliferation have had a great role in things. I think that one of the interesting things about the Air Raid is that it can be coached with 3 people: OL, WR, and QB/RB coach. That's about all you need, which is attractive and appealing when you can't control much of your coach quality/proficiency. Everyone would love to have 2 OL, 2 WR, a RB and a QB coach in addition to a standalone OC, but totally unnecessary with the Air Raid. That said, the DW can be coached by 2 guys: OL and Backs, so I don't think that that argument is necessarily accurate. Also, please note that TCU's defense is fairly complex and is not for everyone. I like a lot of stuff about it, but I really don't think it's the alpha and omega of defensive football. It's also somewhat reliant on skilled/intelligent DBs, which is different from other defenses that rely on DL or LB play more. I dunno if there's any reason why this didn't happen any sooner other than you can't force evolution. Football is a funny microcosm of evolution because so much happens in such a short period of time (100 years!). Hell, it took human beings a couple of hundred thousand years to quit being monkeys and we didn't even mean to do it. Truthfully, you could argue that was a mistake on our part, monkeys have got it pretty good with their banana eating and vine swinging and the like. Similarly, I think Stanford's got it pretty good with their 7 OL sets and 3-4 defense, but that's just my opinion as a guy who thinks that a caveman with a heavy club, raw meat, and a roaring fire has got it made
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Yelling
Aug 15, 2012 20:58:31 GMT -6
Post by mariner42 on Aug 15, 2012 20:58:31 GMT -6
I'm loud because... well... I'm loud.
I don't 'yell' with the intent of damaging a player's self esteem or confidence, except in occasions where I lose my cool. Rather, I do as op4shadow said and show proper corrective enthusiasm so that more than one person can learn from a mistake.
If I'm being loud, things are normal. I save a little something for when I need to 'bite', but I bark a lot.
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Post by mariner42 on Aug 15, 2012 20:51:42 GMT -6
One of the best concerts I've been to! I'll actually throw a second for stuff from the Tron Legacy Soundtrack, there's some great electronic instrumentals. Rinzler Derezzed Fall From Batman Begins Molossus They're all regulars on my workout playlist, too.
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Post by mariner42 on Aug 15, 2012 20:43:36 GMT -6
Stolen from a friend of mine: Warming up for a game against 2 back team with a BEAST of a FB (225lbs of brutality), my friend looks over at their side innocently. He sees the FB with a coach in front of him trying to push him back and a coach behind him pulling on his jersey hem and the FB is powering through these two like they're barely there. HE was intimidated and he wasn't even playing. Come 3rd quarter the FB is out of the game after getting drilled by the smallest person on the field (5'3, 135 lb OLB).
I think any organized pre game deal is a waste of time. I couldn't give a damn about winning pregame, it's what comes after that matters. Hell, we can play freeze tag for all I care.
Coachd, that's a fantastic example of intimidation via talent, rather than words. I'm ok with intimidating by how good we are, I'll take that every time vs intimidating with our mouths. To quote Jimmy Johnson, "Show me so loud I can't hear you talk!"
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Post by mariner42 on Aug 15, 2012 2:17:45 GMT -6
How do the offenses you mentioned force the defense to defend the entire field? All the offenses you mentioned reduce the amount of field space that the defense has to defend to 17 yards of the width of the field and 10-15 yards downfield on any given play. You're pretty deep into the kool-aid, but I'm going to address this specifically. If I'm on the left hash with a TE/Wing alignment to the field and my RB breaks contain, does he not have almost half the field of open space in front of him? In essence, I've forced one player on your defense to be responsible for defending far more of the field than he would have by defending 4 wide 10 personnel. "Defending the whole field" is a market concept for spread coaches. Every defense worth it's salt defends the whole field every play, regardless of formation.
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Post by mariner42 on Aug 15, 2012 2:04:50 GMT -6
I hatehatehate waiting for players to arrive from somewhere. Whether it's moving from drill to drill or from water break to group period or jumping into the scout huddle, it drives me nuts. As a result, every time I am consciously aware I'm waiting for something, everyone that it applies to does 2 pushups immediately. Sure, it delays whatever I'm doing, but after about 3-4 days of me doing this EVERY TIME, they get the idea.
I also think you should have a scout depth chart prepared ahead of time. Less time looking for kids to fill in = more reps. The kids don't have to see it, just have it prepared and on paper for practice.
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Post by mariner42 on Jul 30, 2012 1:17:26 GMT -6
"Gandhi didn't take a knee, Martin Luther King didn't take a knee, Thomas Edison didn't take a knee, and I sure as hell am not going to take a knee." -- Dan Hawkins
None of those guys ever played football, did they? That is a mindless coaching quote in my opinion. Quotes like that are awesome when you're at Boise and the situation is starting to snowball into bigger and better things. Less so when you're at CU and fired before your son can play on senior night. I have a lot of respect for Coach Hawkins because he was a mentor to one of my mentors (Mark Speckman), I'm just saying quotes work a couple of different ways. Back to the OT, your program sounds very regimented and thorough and I hope that it all leads back to success. If you're doing all that shizz and losing, I would start looking at some of it and begin questioning where I could be expending my mental energy instead.
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Post by mariner42 on Jul 27, 2012 23:52:55 GMT -6
1 Playing - HS 1 Playing - College 6 Coaching - HS ..1) 2 yrs in OR ..2) 2 yrs at alma mater ..3) 1 yr at alma mater ..4) 1 yr at alma mater ..5) 1 yr new school ..6) This year new school
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Post by mariner42 on Jul 13, 2012 22:39:06 GMT -6
When my HS starting going with a platoon approach my sr year, the way people were decided was by draft. Offense got the first two picks (QB and D-1 RB), defense got the next 9. After that, I think they traded every 2 picks.
This mirrored the overall focus of the program: play great defense, be better than others on special teams, and take care of the ball on offense. There were certain players who were naturally 2 way guys because they HAD to be (our C/NT was 6'6 320 and eventually all-state) but aside from them, that's how it was.
There were lots of guys on defense that had small, bit roles on offense, I played GL fullback, our FS played RB/Slot, our CBs each knew 2-3 plays at WR/Slot in order to give rest to the primary guys, but only one OL played ANY defense and that was the previously mentioned wardaddy, who was our MVP. I actually don't think ANY of the offensive personnel played defense, but defensive guys donated time to the offense as needed.
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Post by mariner42 on Jul 4, 2012 2:14:33 GMT -6
My gut says you guys won't be successful. This sounds like the makings of a stereotypical "inner city public school" that always seems to under achieve due to the lack of what I call "professional" coaches. Coaches that don't all know what the plan is before hand. What is the programs history? What is history of the H/C. What is YOUR history. Depending on where you are in your career, and other circumstances, I (and this is just ME, based on where I am in my career, and MY circumstances) would want to have a staff meeting about this. Explain to them "while I might be the new guy here, I am not a new coach and have worked with several successful programs. This is NOT a characteristic of success. We need to all be on the same page BEFORE we go out, and all disagreements stay inside these walls. " Or, meet with the Header..and say "hey guy...if this is how this program is run, I just don't see you guys being successful. Is this a sign of things to come? If so, I think I need to just hand in my whistle now" If he says its not, then have him discuss it with the staff. But again, that is how I would personally deal with it, at my point in my career and my circumstances. CoachD, as per usual, speaks my words for me. HC needs to put this situation to bed and if he doesn't, I would consider moving on. Last year I coached in a very lousy situation (partially of my own making), it's really not worth it. I love football, but I love sanity more.
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