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Post by 19delta on Jun 10, 2019 15:59:47 GMT -6
Small-school football program here (enrollment is about 350 total students), I think the magic number is 10-15 per class. If we get that consistently year in and year out, we are going to be pretty competitive.
What hurts is when we have a really good class but the classes behind them are low on numbers. Last year's senior class had about 15 kids and 13 of them were good to great players. We were really good. Went 12-1. Last year's junior class only had about 8 kids and maybe 4 of them are good to great. We won't be anywhere near as good this fall.
So I think the key is to try and sustain consistent numbers in each class.
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Post by 19delta on Jun 10, 2019 14:06:29 GMT -6
Hello all, the title says it all. What are some non contact competition drills (like Oklahoma drill, downs, 1st and goal at the 10, etc.) that you use to get your guys competing everyday in your program? We have a non-contact camp coming up next week and I am trying to get some ideas. If you have some specific ones for lineman and skill guys that would be great. Thanks guys! This one of my all-time favorite drills. Big shout-out to davecisar for sharing this. The Deer Hunter GameI like it for many reasons: - It's great conditioning
- Good opportunity to do some realistic COD and starting and stopping
- It's a lot of fun
- It encourages teamwork. The "hunters" have to work together
- It's HIGHLY competive
I have only played the game with the Nerf balls a few times. Instead, we just play "Tag" and call it "Cops and Robber". I mark off a playing area (usually about half a football field). There are usually 3-4 "cops". They have to work together to take all the "robbers". We will put a stopwatch on the cops and create an incentive or have a prize for the team that captures all the robbers in the least amount of time. We also create a prize or incentive for the last remaining "robber" in each round. Also a good idea to give each team of cops about 2-3 minutes to discuss strategy prior to the round beginning.
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Post by 19delta on May 6, 2019 17:56:07 GMT -6
We just had three kids sign to play baseball at an NAIA school. The best part about...none of the three have ever played baseball! Not only that, one of them is currently classified as a 10th grader because he has only one math credit. He has failed his last 5 math classes, and is currently taking 3 math classes this semester to attempt to graduate. One of the other two has a CORE GPA of 1.1 and is ranked 104 of 116 in his class. At the signing I was asked to speak at the beginning because all 3 played football for me (though 2 of the 3 quit) and I am the AD. I refused. Told the principal I wasn't getting up in front of our other athletes and lying about what a great job these kids had done. WTF? How did your administration even allow this to proceed?
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Post by 19delta on May 2, 2019 12:25:56 GMT -6
I've probably been a little too hard on D3's the more I think about and am around education, I realize that D3's aren't really that much more of scam than any other college. So what if the kids pay private college tuition just so they can play sports, there are plenty of way dumber financial decisions being made in universities all over the country. The whole system is geared around getting money off of young and impressionable youngsters, D3's are just swimming with the current But are the kids choosing to go to college strictly so that they can play football or were they going to go to college anyway but chose a college where they could play football? In many cases, I think kids are going so they can play football.
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Post by 19delta on May 2, 2019 6:45:10 GMT -6
I just heard a radio interview with a local kid who de-committed from one D3 school so he could go to another D3 school. I didn't even know that was a thing...😆 If you think about it though, with the crazy rules and landscape of recruiting, it is probably one of the more accurate statements. No signing, just a commitment to show up at that school when practice starts. That is the world in which D3 operates. Recruiting until they are enrolled. Oh, they had already done a signing. That was all over the Twitter.
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Post by 19delta on May 1, 2019 17:43:07 GMT -6
I just heard a radio interview with a local kid who de-committed from one D3 school so he could go to another D3 school.
I didn't even know that was a thing...😆
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Post by 19delta on Apr 28, 2019 11:17:09 GMT -6
Why do high school football seasons include 9 games? Why not an even 10? Is there some reason that the season is 9 games long?
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Post by 19delta on Apr 28, 2019 7:36:49 GMT -6
Dead serious. I don't know about Coach Woodall but I played in the days before playoffs. Not everybody got a trophy, just teams that won their conference. Winning your conference doesn't mean anything anymore. You could make an argument that a playoff system that may take half a conference's teams is more "Everybody gets a trophy" than the old days. Don't know about the old days before playoffs... Never experienced that. Don't think I'd like it. I can only speak for my experience in Texas, where we do allow too many teams from each district into the playoffs...but, despite that, I can guarantee you that the best teams end up playing for the championship in each division... Things typically shake out like they should. Helluva lot better than ending the season after ten games! And that is probably an outlier. Again, using the Illinois example, while the best team wins one of the 8 state championship games, the best two teams often do not meet for that game because the system is rigged to ensure that one of the teams represents Northern Illinois and one of the teams represents Southern Illinois (the "line" is drawn east-west roughly through Champaign).
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Post by 19delta on Apr 28, 2019 7:28:44 GMT -6
You guys can't be serious... Let's make sure everyone gets a trophy, boys. Dead serious. I don't know about Coach Woodall but I played in the days before playoffs. Not everybody got a trophy, just teams that won their conference. Winning your conference doesn't mean anything anymore. You could make an argument that a playoff system that may take half a conference's teams is more "Everybody gets a trophy" than the old days. And you can probably make a good argument that in many states, playoff systems have been significantly watered down from what they were originally. For example, when the playoffs started in Illinois in 1974, you pretty much had to be a conference championship to make the playoffs. It was very common for 8-1 teams to not make the playoffs. In fact, the school I teach at had an 8-0 season in the late 1970s (they had an open date that didn't get filled) and did not get in to the playoffs.
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Post by 19delta on Apr 27, 2019 17:48:55 GMT -6
Only issue should be the Head Soccer Coach and the AD for having him do this during intermission as opposed to post game or another time. As far as the act itself... Well, Tom Izzo dressed up like Iron Man and had his family dressed like other comic book characters (including his wife and daughter in skintight leather outfits).. Was he twerking in the Iron Man costume?
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Post by 19delta on Apr 27, 2019 17:46:40 GMT -6
I'm with you I think there's a place for some of that stuff......take a pie in the face for the fundraiser or something...not a big deal but this thing was part of an actual competition...I think that's the part that wrankles me...it wasn't a pep rally or something like that...a freaking game....ugh So I'm curious where you (or others) stand on this then... In high school our head freshmen football coach was also probably the most universally well-liked teacher in the school. Athletes, non-athletes, stoners, the whole school loved him. He also led pep rallies when we had them. And it became a tradition at the school that at halftime of the varsity football game he would get up in front of the student section and lead a cheer or some sort before the second half started (he had no varsity gameday duties). Acceptable or no? I'm genuinely curious, as it had been going on long enough by the time I was in school that I didn't second guess it. Again...I would put that in the "fun" category. If your head freshman coach did a twerking routine at halftime of the varsity game, that would be clearly inappropriate.
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Post by 19delta on Apr 27, 2019 17:44:47 GMT -6
Firmly option 1. If the kids enjoy it and nobody is being humiliated, it's appropriate, and no one is being forced into anything then go for it. During homecoming we have some teacher lip sync battles and stuff like that and the kids eat it up. The only thing I've ever really done was the teacher vs. student tug-o-war and reffing the powder puff game, but that's the sort of stuff that I think can lead to a great school culture. Then again I'm not super concerned with being serious, and one of my most common sayings in season is "it's only high school football" so maybe I'm an outlier. The difference is that twerking is overtly sexual. Lip syncimg is not. That is where the line should be drawn. "Fun" stuff is OK. But when staff members are engaging in public behavior that would not be appropriate at a school function, then that isn't OK. With that being said, if I'm not the HFC or an administrator, I'm not saying anything. Stay in your lane.
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Post by 19delta on Apr 26, 2019 17:08:26 GMT -6
Douchey? Absolutely! Inappropriate? Nah. I know a guy like you’re talking about that coaches at a school near us only he is in his 30’s. The thing about those guys is that they will be the ones that backstab you in a down year to further themselves ...either that or they get arrested for banging students.
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Post by 19delta on Apr 13, 2019 18:05:29 GMT -6
This guy #neverletteredinshit Time for Oklahoma drill in the parking lot ...of the local Beef O'Bradys.
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Post by 19delta on Apr 13, 2019 8:38:43 GMT -6
"In 2015, I used one of my early draft picks on a defensive lineman named Shane. Although I’d been warned he was dumb as a rock, he had a reputation for physically assaulting other kids at school unprovoked, so he seemed to be a perfect fit."
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Post by 19delta on Apr 5, 2019 22:01:08 GMT -6
7th and 8th graders can play varsity football? That is crazy. How is that possibly safe? Sounds like a lawsuit just waiting to happen. Heck...in the 20 or so years I have been around high school football, I have never even seen a FRESHMAN who was a legitimate varsity football player, never mind kids still in middle school!
Just saw this thread. Have seen a few. very few, but have saw them.
With parents now redshirting a few 8th graders, 9th grades starting has become common.
I have started a few freshmen myself.
Oh, I've seen freshmen start on varsity but not because they were legitimate varsity football players. The "redshirt" freshman would make sense because he is technically a sophomore. I have seen a handful of sophs who were legitimate varsity players. But freshmen...never. Not once. And my own kid has been a 2-way varsity starter since his freshmen year. But that was due to low varsity numbers, not because he was a legit varsity player.
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Post by 19delta on Mar 28, 2019 19:02:27 GMT -6
The wider issue (which the article mentioned but didn't expand) is that they/we are addicted to ours phones and social media. I know it is blowing it out of proportion but we wouldn't give breaks to serve a different addiction (gambling break, smoking break, alcohol consumption break, drug break) etc etc. What I would have respected is some kind of announcement on how they plan to tackle cell phone/social media addiction. I am probably a little older than you, but I do remember when people use to take smoke breaks and it was ok. When I was in high school (1988-1992), there was a "smoking lounge" for students. Ok...it wasn't actually a lounge. It was about a 15'x15' marked-off spot right outside an exterior door. In order to access the smoking lounge, you had to have a pass that was signed by your parents. Having a smoking lounge pass basically made you nobility among the burnouts and metalheads.
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Post by 19delta on Mar 13, 2019 18:37:01 GMT -6
Do you mean as a collectible souvenir to players, parents, or fans? Or to other schools as actual helmets that will be issued to players?
I don't think that there is anything illegal about selling football helmets. However, the problem you are going to have is finding a market for them. I'm not sure who would want to buy old football helmets that need reconditioning and are probably well on their way to the expiration date. Helmets are supposed to be replaced after what, 10 years?
When I was coaching youth football, we used to take the helmets that were rejected by the reconditioner, take all the internal padding out, paint them, and sell them as collectibles or give them away as gifts.
Never made any money on them but many people appreciated the helmet as a nice gift.
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Post by 19delta on Mar 12, 2019 5:12:44 GMT -6
It means the kid was getting his @ss waxed and the coach was trying to encourage him in some way without saying “hey man it’s ok.” I don’t see a problem with saying trust the process. We don’t use it but it doesn’t bother me to hear it. I mean it’s not like he was out there saying “throw strikes” or “just strike him out,” or anything of a similar nature. Yeah...I get that. With that being said...c'mon. "Trust the process"? Is it even possible to be more cliche than that? I guess if the coach would have yelled out, "Row the boat", that would have been worse! I think MICoach hit the nail on the head. Beyond what he said, I think it is something that gets thrown out there when a coach really doesn't know what to do in terms of adjustments OR really doesn't have any other option other than what he is currently doing. You yell out something like, "Trust the Process!" to make it seem like you understand that the situation looks bleak now but that you have a plan that is going to produce better results in the future (even if you really don't!) I almost have to wonder if saying something like "Trust the Process" is more for the parents and fans than it is for the kids.
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Post by 19delta on Mar 11, 2019 21:19:11 GMT -6
Jimmy Chitwood trusted the process... Not at first. His not playing was going to cost the coach his job. Chitwood was the process. But Jimmy was only going to play if Coach kept his job. 😆
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Post by 19delta on Mar 11, 2019 21:12:56 GMT -6
Last week we played a team (baseball) that is typically very good. They have pretty strong pitching but my guys were absolutely bombing them. The whole time the coach and players were telling the pitcher, "Trust the process!" and "Process!" This went on for multiple relievers till we mercied them 18-0. Seriously, what does "trust the process" mean? Have you not seen Hoosiers? Jimmy Chitwood trusted the process...
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Post by 19delta on Feb 24, 2019 17:04:27 GMT -6
I thought this thread was going to be about Frederic Bastiat...
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Post by 19delta on Feb 23, 2019 13:57:03 GMT -6
Coaches, I have just been hired as a Physical Education teacher, but I have only taught Social Studies.The obvious difference is the classroom setting: Classroom vs Gymnasium. However, the school is a small charter schoo that has told me, even for PE, the gym won't be able to be used for PE classes (they eat lunch in the gym). QUESTIONS: 1. What are the different ways that Physical Education can be taught? - I know a guy that he actually spends some time in a classroom teaching a sport, THEN will take kids outisde the following days - I know some schools where you are in the gym everyday, all day 2. How can you teach Physical Education without a gym? Do a Google search on a curriculum model called "Sport Education". It is a lot of fun. A guy named Daryl Seidentop is pretty much the #1 SE guru.
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Post by 19delta on Feb 22, 2019 20:39:44 GMT -6
Well then, for the thick-headed amongst us heathens - perhaps you could elucidate the circumstances under which such a rule would be apropos in THIS millenium?
maybe after you establish yourself and get the program winning and the kids and parents buy in..you introduce it as optional, and explain your reasons...then gradually make it a rule if your numbers dictate it.....got that your thickness.......................just one example of how you could do it if it is something you believe in....not that difficult of a concept.....try to be a little open minded and not so dismissive.......... quick example on the college level: coach kelly at notre dame has the kids arrange their lockers in a very particular way...the socks, playbook,pads , all have a specific place.....the lockers are checked.... when coach kelly was asked "what does that have to do with football?" coach Kelly: " it is about following the slightest instructions, and getting in the habit of attention to detail. Being disciplined to make sure each thing is done to a high quality. If you do the little things it will be easy to do the bigger things." enough said Eff Brian Kelly. He got that kid killed filming a stupid practice. And looked the other way to cover up rape allegations. Really have zero interest at all in hearing what Brian Kelly has to say about doing things the right way. Seriously...eff that guy. He's a deplorable human being. P.O.S.
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Post by 19delta on Feb 20, 2019 17:13:05 GMT -6
I was afraid it wouldn't last long, even with good ratings. The logistics of paying huge rosters full of players is tough for any pro league and they have 8 teams full of 52 guys making $250k a year, plus 11-13 coaches per team with huge salaries. I would like to see this succeed, but I forsee the product getting stale and ratings declining dramatically over the course of the season. Yeah. I feel the same. I think the only way the league survives is if it gets subsidized by the NFL.
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Post by 19delta on Feb 20, 2019 16:37:32 GMT -6
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Post by 19delta on Feb 20, 2019 16:31:30 GMT -6
Not every D.3 school is a private school. Secondly, private schools that have recruited a kid will often come up with an aid package to get costs down to at or near state schools's. I've never known a D3 that wasn't a private. I guess that's where my knowledge base is coming from. PS- I played D3. But, it wasn't just to play college football. I liked the school and my family could afford it without loans. Had it cost any more than Illinois State, I wouldn't have been going. Wisconsin state schools in the WIAC (Platteville, Whitewater, Eau Clair, La Crosse, Oshkosh, River Falls, Stevens Point, Stout) are all D3. But yeah...outside of those, most D3s are private. I did a quick Google search and the percentage I kept getting was that about 80% of D3 schools are private. However, I could not find a list of the public D3 schools nor could I find how many public D3 schools have football programs. I'm a D3 alumnus myself. While I did have to take some loans, it wasn't much. I only owed around $17,000 when I graduated in 1996 and wiped that out with a three year hitch in the US Army. The biggest issue I have with kids going the D3 route is that they will go to a school mostly because they want to play football and don't give much of a thought about academics. They get to school and pile up a bunch of debt and then find out that the degree program they want isn't offered there or isn't very good. If kids are going to go to a D3 school, it should be because that school meets their academic needs. If they get to play football, that should be looked at as a bonus but can't be the driving reason that they choose that school.
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Post by 19delta on Feb 19, 2019 20:36:38 GMT -6
It is vital to educate your kids on the process and the different levels. We educate them on what "scholarship" means and help they and their parents understand the investment they will make financially. We educate them on private and public universities and the difference in cost. We discourage kids from having to take out loans. We do, however, celebrate every kid. If we have a 6-2, 240 pound kid signing with a D2, we celebrate. If we have a 5-8, 200 pound kid going to a D3, we celebrate. I don't care what level it is, we celebrate out kids. Why would we not celebrate a kid going to a D3 school? Because it costs money and doesn't give a full ride? If he and his parents make that choice, and they get to use football as a catalyst to get educated, good for them. What I won't have is us acting like it doesn't matter. If it matters to the kid, it matters to me. How do kids attend college in this era without taking out loans? Even a public school like the University of Illinois is going to cost $30,000/year. There are cheaper public schools than that, of course. But the fact is that most kids are going to have to take loans if they want to attend a 4-year school. Hell...even junior colleges aren't exactly cheap.
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Post by 19delta on Feb 19, 2019 19:07:50 GMT -6
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Post by 19delta on Feb 18, 2019 23:21:23 GMT -6
In lieu of going to an expensive camp at a college this year I wanted to have a lock in at our school. If any of you have done one, how did you get your admin on board with it liability wise? I've got the entire two day period planned out hour by hour but the principal is a little apprehensive: 1. She is new and this is all unfamiliar to her 2. We had a school in our county last year have one and they reported while a state mandated dead period was still in effect and they also had fight between players in the gym that was unsupervised by the coaches and tried to cover it up. Any body that has done one I would really like to hear the logistic of how you made it work so I can help put the admins mind at ease other than simply assuring them I ain't gonna let stuff like that happen. 1. Supervision should be provided by school employees, either certified staff or paid coaches. Don't rely on parents, community members, or volunteers. I would shoot for a ratio of around 1:15, maybe 1:20 (make it similar to class size). 2. I would be highly sensitive to players using the event to establish some kind of horrible "tradition" like holding down freshmen and jamming stuff up their butts. I would clearly define bullying and make sure that nothing like that will be tolerated.
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