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Post by brophy on Jun 30, 2013 20:15:41 GMT -6
as a coach these dilemmas can drive you up the wall because it just does not compute.
Had a 2-year varsity started at db (small frame, but athletic) and decided to move him to WDE (he would have been our starting DB had we left him there, but there was nothing that could come close to his contribution at DE) and he shined. We were stocked with 'prototype' DEs, but did not have an output like this kid.
Had a short, 1 year varsity LB returning, but 2 decent sized underclassmen LBs who offered more (for what we asked from that position). Moved the short kid to CORNER (still makes me cringe), but he was a rock with 4 Ints that year.
Had a kid who came out late, wasn't very football smart, very wirey (he would be a-typical corner/fs)...but where he made the biggest impact was playing WILB in our 3-3. Moved him there and he blew {censored} up for us when our "prototypical" OLB couldn't stop getting personal fouls.
Had a 170lbs corner who cleaned 260lbs, squated over 500 and hit like an old Buick. We kept trying to move him to SS/OLB and make it fit (because he was THE prototype for the position)...but he was more comfortable at corner and even though we played C3 every snap and would be "wasted" at corner....he was great on an island and had 6 picks (3 for scores)
Had a 300lbs nose tackle (now playing for the Eagles) who we moved to offense because a 165lbs wrestler kid was just more explosive / more upside at nose than him.
just get some football players on the field and make plays, whether you call them badgers, rovers, demons, backers or bakers.
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Post by brophy on Jun 30, 2013 14:07:07 GMT -6
Easy to say "Best 11" but you can't play a Corner at Defensive Tackle, a Wide Receiver at Center (or vice versa) as examples. prototypes don't win matchups, though we played a corner at DE and he was all conference with 17 sacks
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Post by brophy on Jun 30, 2013 10:49:32 GMT -6
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Post by brophy on Jun 30, 2013 9:57:24 GMT -6
best 11, particularly on defense (because they all have the same function: block destruction & tackling)
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Post by brophy on Jun 27, 2013 7:19:20 GMT -6
the "details" here are ultimately defined as CONTROL. The truly successful programs are consistent because the HC has control over those details, and that essentially, is the job. The less control you have over your program / kids, the less you can enforce. Now, obviously, the program has to make these details a priority and provide quality instruction, but the best intentions can be railroaded by undermining forces (parents, admins, teachers, kids, boosters, etc).
Coaching is about control. You have the oline...how are you going to control the quality of that output? Are you going to enforce proper technique, proper footwork, hand placement on each rep or not?
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Post by brophy on Jun 22, 2013 20:56:53 GMT -6
anyone have recommendations of videos they really liked i watched 5 videos the other night... and wasn't very impressed in their content so far im not sold on subscribing for a second month the OLD Coaches Choice stuff, which was just recordings of clinics is worthwhile. The new production stuff is a waste of time unless you have no knowledge of a subject.
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Post by brophy on Jun 22, 2013 8:12:51 GMT -6
Sorry to cause a stir but I can't afford that. you must be a coach Netflix does for under 10 all year. How do they do that, and this company can't? pretty sure Netflix is a monthly deal at $8/mo signup.netflix.com/HowItWorksI'd imagine they could do this for $3/mo.....but you have a market that shows a level of comfort for under $15 / mo and people may not even blink. 700 videos? Its a start. Its a niche genre, where else can you go for this service? no where. It would (IMO) be a way to get a higher return on the production investment while at the same time stave off the black market trading of these videos (loss)
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Post by brophy on Jun 22, 2013 7:44:20 GMT -6
$11 is expensive? Even $24/mo isn't expensive particularly if there is no contract.
If they can get the Glazier clinic webinars on there, then I'd probably sign up (Coaches Choice videos have always been fluff, IMO)
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Post by brophy on Jun 22, 2013 6:59:03 GMT -6
I wonder what the business side of that is. I cannot imagine that is going to help dvd sales. to be honest, most of those weren't worth the $40-50 price tag for 30 minutes of actual clinic
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Post by brophy on Jun 18, 2013 12:42:05 GMT -6
best case scenario, he WANTS to coach the guys but is not secure enough in his knowledge or what to say (around you). You could say, "we need to go over the footwork on 3-step. Let's go through this real quick". Grab a freshman and have him run the drill with coaching points. Play dumb, let him run (don't correct him) then see where he is at. I would even go so far as to act stupid and set him up with "Coach needs us to get Johnny Slapdick up to speed on this technique. Lets go coach him up!" and restrain yourself from taking over the drill.
You could go as far as to video the session....and review the KID afterwards [is the kid improving based on this instruction?]. That way, the two of you would get together and you would correct / make comments about the KID (when in reality, you're commenting on his coaching points). This way, he can feel empowered, not look stupid and also see the correlation in being demonstrative in drills.
worst case, he is a lazy POS - get rid of him. Tell him to fill water bottles or something...enough to make him complain to the HC. When he complains, you can open the gauntlet with the "you want to coach? COACH!". He'll either step up or quit.
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Post by brophy on Jun 18, 2013 10:41:09 GMT -6
the answer to any offense is a sound defense. Stop conversions and the no-huddle loses it's appeal. Going fast doesn't guarantee you can execute. The "injury" thing is more than a little chicken {censored}. It is a competitive advantage that is counter to the spirit of competition and runs counter to how you teach defensive players to PLAY. This isn't much different than teaching your defenders to fall down in front of offensive players on a big gain in the hopes of drawing a clipping penalty (know guys that have done that). Saban sure didn't have any qualms of player safety when he was lining 300 lbs Barrett Jones up at fullback. put a jersey on (and shut up)
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Post by brophy on Jun 14, 2013 9:38:18 GMT -6
some guys hit him up at a football camp the other day. that's pretty much how recruiting is done now (camp networking) if you're not 6'4", 285lbs, and run a 4.4 by your sophomore year. If his team has HUDL, the player will have the ability to DO ALL THIS HIMSELF (don't need coaches to do it)
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Post by brophy on Jun 12, 2013 14:59:20 GMT -6
I see both sides of the argument (honest), but none of us are in the same conference, let alone district, class or state...which makes a "right" answer here impossible.
1. HSAA regulations pertaining to summer (is it free, dead periods, no contact with players, etc) 2. How much staff you have to commit to being at the facility (more difficult than you'd think) 3. How many tourneys you do 4. How many 7on7 games you play 5. What percentage of your kids work (real jobs)? And kids that work because they HAVE to (supporting their family)? .
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Post by brophy on Jun 12, 2013 13:17:15 GMT -6
how much do we all expect to get out of summer? 7 on 7, Passing Tourneys, M-F weight sessions throughout the day....how much of a return do you anticipate?
How much are we doing from Dec - May (weights, speed, practice)? Not every state is the same, so what we actually get out of "summer" varies a great deal.
What is the worst thing to happen if we stepped away from Summer? The ones that are motivated will far often exceed any workouts we could put them through.
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Post by brophy on Jun 7, 2013 15:15:31 GMT -6
so long as they are paying for it, why can't the kid do it? If the kid has poor showings, that's on him. If he gets hurt, same could happen anywhere. I couldn't imagine parents wanting to be that involved to invite that type of logistical headache (regardless of the performance issues) Why make it a problem?
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Post by brophy on Jun 2, 2013 12:00:22 GMT -6
you don't tell your players 'f- you' do you?
it is totally a vocabulary issue and using cheesy substitutes is only a pacifier. Learn to communicate better and swearing won't be a crutch. It is completely a choice, just like using colloquial expressions is when confronted with the appropriate professional setting. Do you talk among professionals with phrases like "ya know whut I sayin'? Ya herd?" swearing is something we do for ourselves, not the target audience
didn't we have this discussion a month ago?
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Post by brophy on Jun 2, 2013 6:02:42 GMT -6
You aren't friends (real friends) with any of your co-workers? I get not adding current students or parents but not adding co-workers that you are friends with is a little over the top. pretty simple actually
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Post by brophy on May 31, 2013 9:45:37 GMT -6
how to stop swearing? stop swearing
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Post by brophy on May 28, 2013 13:29:57 GMT -6
would this not be state mandated? Why not just have the sign up form be a LIABILITY WAIVER?
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Post by brophy on May 28, 2013 7:04:02 GMT -6
"discipline"? Do you believe the players DON'T want to be disciplined or don't care about performing well? If yes - easy solution = cut them all If the answer is no = then hammer home, assignment/alignment/key/movement/pursuit and above all, TEMPO on defense. Defense is actually quite easy and has to be played at a certain rhythm (just like qb drops)...everything should be timed out in steps. Line up and you will have about 3 responses max based on the first two steps of your key, after that it should be lights out (specific) movement to your support role.
If you can't teach defense like that, then you're contributing to the problem
When you watch film and they all look like a bunch of slappys, it is because they are not grounded in technique (confident in their reading their key, block destruction, or tackling) and out of desperation are just trying to make something happen.
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Post by brophy on May 28, 2013 3:50:57 GMT -6
I had a very good coach once tell me that kids today smoking pot is like kids in his day drinking beer. I brought it up that smoking pot is illegal, and he said so is a 16 year old kid drinking a beer... Different times boys... different times... I personally feel that like it or not, in 10 years this type of conversation will be very trivial. the way we are going, everything that is your life, our way of life , is going to be gone in 5 years, EVERYTHING. Get a grip....we're just talking about marijuana
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Post by brophy on May 27, 2013 19:38:56 GMT -6
what do the parents want done (on football)? what do the other kids know? At the very least you and the staff can meet with him to reiterate this isn't about HIM, but his decisions will impact the TEAM. He can make poor decisions and live in the moment if he wants to, but that isn't helping his team any and if he were to get caught (by the cops) doing something like this it would only bring shame on the program. Regardless of the activity, letting the team down by marring the name of the team is to let down the classes of the program from the past as leave a bad name for the classes to come ("remember that dumbass from 2013 that got busted streaking at the grocery store?"). Decisions, decisions...life is all about making good decisions (focus less about the actual activity and more about the impact it has on others).
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Post by brophy on May 27, 2013 17:56:42 GMT -6
would this be any different if his parents "caught" him smoking cigarettes, eating shrooms, taking ecstacy or drinking alcohol? At this point, it is in the parents court.
If the kid was busted by authorities, I believe that is the time to self-report to ADs. I could be wrong, though
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Post by brophy on May 21, 2013 20:59:25 GMT -6
there are a few variables to take a look at before you find the one that will fit for you. If you platoon, some of this will be much much simpler (work your groups). If you bring your kids in on Saturday to watch film, then you won't need to repeat film on Monday. How many coaches you have will determine how you can manage all this.
MONDAY walk-thru is entirely different than THURSDAY walk-thru (which shouldn't be more than 40 minutes total).
If we're talking MONDAY, I'd reiterate TEAM Film ** previous cutups of last week's game (just specific clips) ** highlights of current opponent (no matter who it is, make them think this is the toughest team they'll face) *** key players / main plays & formations ....HELLO, HUDL!
POSITION WHITE BOARD ** recognition ** assignment review (more kids, less coach talking)
A) ON FIELD GROUP RECOGNITION ** offense formation recognition. *** key player ID **** formation by 1st down / 3rd down (this should be something you reiterate through the week as you script sessions. Keep calling out your opponent tendencies like a broken record. Kids should be repeating this by Wednesday (2nd & 8 + wing to the boundary = bucksweep)
B) WEIGHTS ** if you do this by groups, one group will be on the field while the other group is doing some basic weights (squats / cleans) for a quick session
7 ON 7 ** finish with a brief skelly session
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Post by brophy on May 21, 2013 1:20:21 GMT -6
classroom film on field = formation recognition only (don't use linemen, just cones) don't have the entire team, just the unit.
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Post by brophy on May 8, 2013 21:45:42 GMT -6
yes....but in a different way. Every time I see a new glossary term or acronym for something I have to roll my eyes.
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Post by brophy on Apr 29, 2013 20:19:31 GMT -6
good points, s73.
Again, I don't care what folks do. There is no right answer. I thought I've reiterated several times in this thread that there are perfectly legitimate reasons for doing either. There are perfectly valid reasons for not platooning.
The OP asked a question and I've chimed in along with others on some of the challenges/benefits of the topic. In my experience, conclusions on platooning are often met with short-term answers. That doesn't serve the OP's question. I just wanted to raise the issue of platooning, and the programs that commit to it, have thought long and hard about the cost. It isn't an easy solution by any means because it requires some really hard questions to be answered.
Reducing it all down to simplistic absolutes doesn't help anyone, though ("we really can't commit to passing the ball, because then we will never be able to run the ball", "we can't platoon because then we'll never win - we'll give up on this season"). Lets not be pedantic or simple, here. There are costs associated with each decision we make for the program. The goal at the end of the day is to have both immediate, short-term, and long-term plans for where you intend to lead the program.
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Post by brophy on Apr 29, 2013 14:42:42 GMT -6
We 2 platooned about 4 years ago for 5 games and went 0-5 and it was not a "good" 0 - 5. We got smashed. Two platooning for us just widened an already existing talent gap. We will have a whopping 27 players this next year. There are 22 positions, that leaves 5 backups...so where are the other 17 going to come from??? and there's the thing. If you're only trying to win games ONE SEASON AT A TIME.......there will never be an appropriate time to platoon. If that is all you care about and you are confident you will have the pond stocked every season, then yeah, platooning may not be worth the investment. Are you the head coach of the Varsity team or are you the head coach of the High School PROGRAM? You will never have 30 seniors returning. The key point is what are you going to do to develop MORE talent because those players (experience / athletes) are finite. You have 5 studs every year. You have 12 juniors returning. You have 18 sophomores and 23 freshmen coming up. How are you going to get MORE PRODUCTION out of the entire talent pool? What would you do to develop the best team you could have in 2014? You're going to have to become more inclusive, get larger buy-in and commitment from players (and their families), more training, more teaching and a greater emphasis on performance from a down-by-down basis. Can you have 4 solid players dedicated on offense? Can you have 6 solid players dedicated to defense? Could you coach up the remaining players on the squad to become competent in that unit? That's where the coaching comes in (it takes a LOT of work). Coaching studs is easy. Getting that 2nd string guy on the field is where it matters. Can you coach 3 deep (or just starters)?
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Post by brophy on Apr 28, 2013 16:16:40 GMT -6
Having coached, coached against and played with guys who are in the NFL, I can firmly attest that we, as coaches, had ZERO impact on them turning out the way they did. Primarily, it is genetics and solid parenting (that didn't get in the way of their genetics & academics).
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Post by brophy on Apr 25, 2013 7:36:56 GMT -6
I should let this alone, but platooning is a fascinating to me.... but, for giggles, I think it is a worthwhile endeavor in the off-season to get the staff together and assess the entire talent pool 8 - 11 grades. Not only does it provide a fairly objective look at your talent but it also engages all your coaches (who likely feel they have no input in the program). This can be especially fun considering THE NFL DRAFT IS THIS WEEKEND. You can make a party out of it, really. Just go down the lineup and come to a consensus on a players absolute best position (where his value at ____ is exponentially better than any other spot), then if pressed, what is his 2nd best position on the other side of the ball. Just try that even if you aren't going to platoon. See what you come up with, see where you would have talent limitations and devise a plan on how you would actually be able to live with that lineup. Ever have a stud go down, and the rest of the team had to rally together to make up for the loss? Thats what they'll do when they know the stud(s) are no longer going to become the bailout "easy button" for playing football ("no need for me to try, _____ will make a play") I know that we often say that if you platoon, you double the practice time for a former backup, but actually it actually increases by 4. If you were backing up X at Corner, and now you platoon....not only do you get twice the reps, but you also eliminate (varsity) the reps you would've shared on offense. So now, ALL of practice is dedicated to that one position (technique, reads, and playing experience). What would you do different if you realistically be able to make adjustments and regroup your units after EVERY SERIES on game night? If you wouldn't do anything different, if you're just gonna run the same 4 plays regardless, then surely platooning may not yield enough of a return.
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