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Post by brophy on Sept 14, 2013 19:49:36 GMT -6
its more of a common sense thing than it is a football thing. the good news is that even that kid's OWN TEAMMATES tackled him to get him to stop
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Post by brophy on Sept 14, 2013 18:33:53 GMT -6
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Post by brophy on Sept 13, 2013 10:42:20 GMT -6
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Post by brophy on Sept 1, 2013 14:01:25 GMT -6
no matter who is playing (hs, ncaa, nfl), I just make it a point to see identify the presnap as quickly as possible and break it down by formation vs front / split vs coverage... check to see where the safeties are...is it 2-high, 1-high, are the safeties respecting the split of #2? who's left in the box / how many backs? then the split to the field/boundary and what the defensive numbers are to the receivers and what is the depth of the corners? at the snap check the safeties to see if any drop to support the front and tip off roll or pressure then glance back to the under coverage to see what has developed (routes/runs) if run, does the force player come up and squeeze, how do the ILBs scrape to back flow? if pass, which routes have cleared the linebackers and are open?
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Post by brophy on Aug 31, 2013 9:10:43 GMT -6
unified closure.....thats about it, unless "breakdown" means something I'm not aware of
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Post by brophy on Aug 25, 2013 13:09:22 GMT -6
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Post by brophy on Aug 25, 2013 12:59:01 GMT -6
Is this the sequel to Year of the Bull?
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Post by brophy on Aug 17, 2013 6:29:56 GMT -6
why would you need a crotch harness if you're not rappelling? If all you intend to do is drag something via harness, you can make it simple and cheap.... so long as the shoulders are forward, a single loop behind the head can sustain resistance without slipping.
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Post by brophy on Aug 16, 2013 21:15:55 GMT -6
left footed punters
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Post by brophy on Aug 16, 2013 15:51:03 GMT -6
rope through the shoulder girdle behind the back of the head
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Post by brophy on Aug 15, 2013 12:53:57 GMT -6
i'm the same age, got the same problem at the last place, where ive been. i think because we're young (there was another thread on this board with the same topic), we dont get that natural respect, that the elders get. thats ok, we have to prove ourselves to get respected. its the same on and off the field. but i understand, it can cause hard feelings. i got not even listened to. i was ignored, when i sent emails. this made me angry. at some point i just left the other coaches alone with their problems and for the rest of the time there i solely focused on getting my players better. thats what my job was anyways. at the end the players and me had a really good relationship. the coaches and me... not so much. when i told everyone, i was going to another program, i got many emails with kind words from those players, what they learned from me and how they respected me. for this, it was worth all the trouble. maybe at the next stop or in the next years, you will get more respect by your coaches. just work hard and give your best at what you do. respect the other coaches and players and the respect for you will come naturally - some coaches will honor your good work. other coaches need you to be older to be respected, but thats ok, too, because you will get older (i promise you) is it that bluedevil4 doesn't have respect from the players (the coaches didn't seem to be the problem)?
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Post by brophy on Aug 15, 2013 9:46:43 GMT -6
just look at it this way (it isn't that deep or complicated)....you're the substitute teacher here. Teacher is going to be gone tomorrow so they tell the class, "be respectful of Mr Van Driessen and don't give him any problems" Now that probably wouldn't need to be said if Mr Hand is the sub, 'cause everyone knows he ain't takin' no {censored} and will LEAD (take control of) the classroom This doesn't mean you have to be an a-hole....just have expectations of performance. Kids aren't running in your drills send ALL those slappies for a run. They don't do it fast enough, make them run again. Kind of like riding a horse, you pretty much have to establish you aren't scared and YOU ARE the one in control Its a win-win....kids get in line and the staff learns to respect your gangsta
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Post by brophy on Aug 15, 2013 6:30:34 GMT -6
1. if it annoyed/irritated you, I'm puzzled 2. if you're appreciative of the HC doing that, I get it 3. if you're confused at why he had to say it, point blank it is because the kids don't respect you right now.
For #3, no one can fix this but YOU. I wouldn't worry if you're doing something wrong, though. You're young, well-intentioned. It likely has everything to do with how you are projecting yourself to others. If they see you as a kissass to the coaches, they'll think you're just someone's secretary. Projecting assertiveness is everything here. Be direct, exact, and keep the social stuff down until that is established first. Get on kids for swearing, for lack of effort, for body language, and be enthusiastic as you do it.
Good luck and thanks for coaching - keep at it
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Post by brophy on Aug 13, 2013 23:11:34 GMT -6
When I was a kid (before the computer age) attention whoring activities consisted of daredevil acts like jumping off of barns, riding tree limbs to the ground, who could punch the concrete block wall the hardest, playing football with no pads on, and fighting just for the fun of it.....maybe we're experiencing progress....lol. yeah, I dunno....maybe its a good thing, but there aren't a whole lot of reinforcers for kids to toughen up and push through issues that don't have an immediate affirming token
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Post by brophy on Aug 13, 2013 19:14:53 GMT -6
harness for what?
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Post by brophy on Aug 12, 2013 14:32:57 GMT -6
just my take on this conversation, but this has taken on the tone of what is convenient for the coach more than what the kids need or don't. If you don't teach, 2 a days is tough if not down right impossible. then if you live in certain states two a days is non existant. Then if you are a hc and work outside the school system, two a days isn't going to happen either. So again, this conversation is more the convenience of the coach. Don't this that was idea the op had in mind, but it is what it is. yeah, that's what is tough (and interesting) about stuff like this. There is no national standard (good thing) for much of anything regarding HS ball. You could be in the same state and still have very different needs depending on school type and/or classification. There just won't be a one-size-fits all answer. We take it as it is, I guess.....
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Post by brophy on Aug 12, 2013 10:49:45 GMT -6
Its to install and perfect both the offense and the defense in the silly 5-8 days that you might have before your first scrimmage. do you have spring ball? do you do any skelly work in the summer? in the last 10 years, I know we've done 3 days acclimation, then 2+3 practices before a jamboree, then another week to the first game. Really was plenty of time to get the base system in, provided you're not starting from absolute ground zero. We were doing this (I'm referring to 3 different programs) with Frosh-Varsity. Its to condition those that didnt take part in the sucky off season program. honestly, what kid comes out for football in August (doesn't do any other sports or conditioning with your guys) and actually contributes in the season? in the current world we live in and the road we are going down, no kid is going to support his family. Fulltime work for adults is nearly impossible to find now. Much less for kids. labor laws for most kids under the age of 18 make it such that they can only work part time anyways. you're peeing on my leg and telling me its raining.....essentially telling me that the low-income families I've been coaching the past 6 years were all bullshitting me and their sons should've been full-time athletes. That wasn't reality for us. If it is for you, great. I'm not saying that the world isn't ending, but I'm convinced that us coaches (particularly, those of us who did the hardcore 2 & 3 a days 30 years ago) over esteem 2-a-days. I'm also biased because I'm non-faculty. The 2-a-day method ONLY is ideal for the teacher with summers off. If we talk regulation.....we need to delineate "practice" session from "time on the field". We could spend 1.5 hours on the field, then spend another 45 minutes inside reviewing practice on HUDL and get more work done than banging on each other for 3 full hours
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Post by brophy on Aug 12, 2013 8:28:37 GMT -6
if you turn it into a business argument... business case = justification. Justify why it can't be done in one session in the morning. In the last 15 years, I've only been with 1 program that did 2-a-days. Those extra sessions didn't accomplish much for us at that program. The others all did 3-4 hours sessions in the morning. Get them in, cut the BS, and get them out. We never needed the entire playbook for the jamboree or the first game. I agree the limited sessions is rough, but 2-a-days as a practice, just isn't what it used to be and in today's game I would argue is completely pointless. We work the kids in periodization training 9 months of the year. Do spring ball, do summer 7on7s, do monthly strongman competitions....if kids are out of shape in August, we dun screwed up. Most of the kids I've been around have to work in the summer to support their family. Limiting their availability to their employer can be a real pain because we're setting up more and more obstacles why they can't be at practice.
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Post by brophy on Aug 12, 2013 6:19:09 GMT -6
what is the business case FOR 2-a-days? What is the argument that it can't all be done in one practice in the morning?
If it is to get kids in shape, your off-season program must really suck
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Post by brophy on Aug 3, 2013 21:34:27 GMT -6
other reasons to blame the kids? Seeing how the AFM article focused on the use of social media, I think many ADULTS, not necessarily old people or of a certain generation, can distinguish the sociopathic attention-whoring affirmation that subverts developing masculinity (inherent in male sports). Not every feeling needs to be validated on Twitter. Teen males probably need less ego stroking and more humility to hasten maturity.
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Post by brophy on Aug 3, 2013 21:05:43 GMT -6
blaming the kids is an easy route, but it isn't a whole lot different than managers blaming their employees.
To a large degree, we may resent the amount of resources required to get momentum/effort out of the kids. I was never really motivated as a player and played essentially because I had to. I can think of two position coaches in my entire career who really went the extra mile, established a relationship with me and went beyond the role of a "boss". The point being, when I was playing in the 80s and in college in the 90s, the sport was still the only game (and affirmation) in town. There just wasn't any other alternative to sports/football so I think coaches really could just show up and demand the moon. Players could take it or leave it. Motivated? I don't know, but I remember football being a 'job' more than anything else as a player (and we weren't doing half of what kids today are expected to do)
Of course, kids perspective is influenced by the world adults have shaped for them. There are so many distractions now and investing in long-term goals isn't reinforced much any longer. Negative emotions (shame, defeat, etc) are really frowned upon and are treated like "abuse" in many circles today. The lesson of getting your {censored} kicked is that you're a victim instead of a motivator for self-improvement.
I don't see what is so offensive about the AFM article, though. It didn't read that he was blaming kids inasmuch as he was just articulating the world as it is today
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Post by brophy on Jul 29, 2013 10:33:18 GMT -6
you may not get any amazing drill or concept out of it, but visiting practice is always a good idea. The NFL training camp is at least open to the public and the encourage people to visit.
I know you used to be able to get on the field if you have communicated with the GM (or know a college coach). I haven't been to an NFL camp in over a decade, though. I like the organization of the NFL practice format, but the tempo is horrible
I find the DL/OL sessions are the most fascinating things to watch if you pay particular attention to their hand speed/placement.
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Post by brophy on Jul 28, 2013 1:55:08 GMT -6
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Post by brophy on Jul 27, 2013 16:09:15 GMT -6
If you buy them something and make it clear that that's the only pink stuff that they can wear you can keep everybody happy without looking like the circus came to town. I also think that limiting it to one week in particular can be argued for making it more meaningful. I think its invasion onto the football field is more than a little bit ridiculous. This, this and this..... Letting the kids accessorize themselves is a recipe for disaster. We had kids come out like pink mummies at pre-game before we had to have them strip half of it off (then deal with their attitudes after that). ** I think i posted a picture of one of the players a few years ago on here Personally, I think the awareness month a charade in itself and has become its own spectacle that doesn't have much to do with the game of football.
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Post by brophy on Jul 19, 2013 12:33:49 GMT -6
Run scout team like your scheme, thats how.
Reps on scout team equal reps on the real team.
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Post by brophy on Jul 16, 2013 9:16:40 GMT -6
This is the same approach that I take to coaching as well. I usually don't raise my voice and when I do the kids respond immediately as a team. If a kid continues to make mistakes, instead of yelling at him I put in the next kid on the depth chart, call him back to me and explain to him in a stern manner what my expectations are of him and what he is doing wrong. I make sure to say "if it continues you are not helping the team and I am going to have to find someone else." This works 9 times out of 10. I use this methods because certain kids shut down when you yell at them and you do more harm then good but you do have those occasional players that respond well only to being yelled at. During camp I don't yell much at kids because I don't know their personalities but once I do and I can change my demeanor toward each individual kid during the season. But the OP isn't talking about a case where one kid is having a bad day. He's talking about days when the whole team is having a bad day: poor focus, lackadaisical effort, silly mistakes, etc.. I suppose that is why it is important to establish HOW you practice. Practice not until you can get it right, but practice until you can't get it wrong. We talk about "play like you practice" all the time, but that has to be true during the moments that a play isn't being ran. How much effort and body language is being reinforced during those times? Since we, as coaches, are ultimately responsible for the team's performance we have to control (eliminate the chance they can screw this up) our kids on the field. Keep them moving, keep them engaged, provide different opportunities for them to win. What can we do to not lose our players (instead of expecting them to always be engaged at on point)? The point is, reinforce the speed, effort, intensity they should compete through the entire duration of practice (between drills, during stretch, moving on the field, etc) Being organized (down to the reps) and having the rest of the staff on this same schedule is what it will take. Easier said than done, I know, but the more we rely on individual kids to make plays or make us look good, the more your practices will be at the mercy of their emotions (if they feel like giving effort).
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Post by brophy on Jul 12, 2013 6:11:43 GMT -6
isn't this thread really about intensity?
You don't have to yell (or you could) You don't have to have a deep depth chart (it helps) You don't have to have rewards/punishment (can work)
it ultimately comes down to kids getting after it in practice and trying to improve, amirite?
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Post by brophy on Jul 11, 2013 6:17:08 GMT -6
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Post by brophy on Jul 1, 2013 18:01:16 GMT -6
it boils down to how much risk you're willing to take on. If a kid cannot perform fundamental skills, then he becomes a liability on the field. You have to minimize the damage that can do to you by limiting his role (maybe so much so that he doesn't play).
size and athleticism is great, but if the kid can't perform...then he is just wasted talent.
How do you determine your best? Who do you get the most consistent production from? You can't get consistent production outside of fundamentals/execution.
Kids that can't tackle or get off blocks on defense? gtfo
Tackling isn't an acquired taste that suits some and not others. We teach you....you can't get it after hours of practice, go have fun on offense, Nancy.
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Post by brophy on Jul 1, 2013 17:34:20 GMT -6
how did this thread get flipped into an "athlete vs skillset" discussion? I thought it was "get the best 11 on the field vs depth chart"
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