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Post by coachd5085 on May 23, 2024 18:04:14 GMT -6
I track the efficiency of our plays using the "traditional" metric of +4 on 1st, 1/2 on 2nd and picked it up on 3rd. As a run based offense I really like the idea of the +4 standard that Tubby Raymond employed, that may be a little more applicable to what we do and how we function on our offense. The thing I think that is useful with tracking efficiency is that during the course of the season it can give you an idea of what is working for you and what isn't from a dispassioned perspective. For example, I love the Down play. We had one year where we just were not very good at the play. It was something we knew qualitatively, but having the numbers at just how inefficient we were at the play gave us a pretty good reason to can it half way through. If I wasn't looking at the numbers I would have probably tried to make some sort of justification for keeping it, and ignoring the fact that we just weren't very good at it. After the season I think it has some value in allowing you to zero in on plays that didn't work very well and figure out why. If you find that Counter wasn't a very good play from a percentage standpoint and then when you go through the cutups and find that on a high percentage of those your pulling guard did a poor job of kicking out it gives you a starting point to start looking at better ways to teach the technique as well as drill work (or maybe just it has to be a personnel change). I think of it kind of like grading in school. If I slap an 82 on a kids essay that's not much, but explaining that his thesis was poorly constructed and he lacked supporting details gives some feedback to make that 82 a more meaningful grade. I think what some coaches would say here is that if you are finding out in January that Counter didn't work because the guard didn't do a good job of kicking out in September, October, November that could be a problem. And while I can see how having extra data might help make decisions from a dispassionate perspective, I would probably also say that film review should be showing you specific reasons why you you weren't achieving success as opposed to "just not being very good at the play". |
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Post by irishdog on Jun 6, 2024 10:47:20 GMT -6
Statistics are the result of determining whether the analysis for an offense (or defense) has been efficient and effective in execution. The “analytical” aspect of statistical information can be manipulated to create a successful outcome. In my view as a coach no matter how well we prepare for a game, situational actions can change the preparedness thus rendering the collective analytics useless. In other words…”over analysis can lead to paralysis.” Not something a leader needs during the heat of battle.
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Post by coachks on Jun 6, 2024 11:54:08 GMT -6
I'll give you an example of how I used the analytics:
In 2022 we ran (Gun) Rocket. Faster than the fly style. We put this in during the summer, worked it every week - dedicated around 15? minutes a week to this series.
By average, it was a good play. I believe we averaged something like 9 yards per carry on it. By efficiency it was average. When I dug into the play, it had some huge gains against some bad teams. Against good teams it would work once or twice, then it would get stopped, then I would get punked out of calling it for the rest of the game.
I also ran the analytics on the compliments and most of them were less efficient than the plays we didn't use the motion (IE, GT with the motion was less efficient than running GT without the motion). Similarly, we had some big gains against bad teams, but good teams did not overplay the the motion.
The issue was not that the play didn't work - it did work. It averaged good yardage. It created some explosives. Even against good teams it popped a few times. It just wasn't as efficient as other choices. If it was "cheap" that would have been fine - but because 15-20 minutes of practice time was dedicated to it and we had to personnel certain ways to make sure the right kids were running it.
So we scrapped it. Our offense got better, because we used that 15 minutes to focus on things that complimented are bread and butter "better" than Rocket did.
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Post by irishdog on Jun 6, 2024 15:17:24 GMT -6
Basically…KISS!! Less is more. The only time I use “analytics” is when I’m analyzing and evaluating individual metrics. Is this kid better at this than the other kid. For me it was always about how well a player executed his assignments to help the team achieve. The less confused the player was the better his effectiveness, and the team’s efficiency. We had a core group of six run plays, and a core of three pass looks that we repped repeatedly from three base formation alignments until we could run them blindfolded.
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Post by coachwoodall on Jun 6, 2024 16:18:23 GMT -6
As I was alluding to in my 1st post, how do you deal with the wide variances that fall into the statistical aspect of HS football? My conference schedule (out of my control) may be vastly different from my non-conference schedule (within my control) based how I schedule teams.
And as with all statistical analysis - garbage in = garbage out.
In the MLB/NBA/NFL, there is very little difference between your average players/plays. The inputs are rather uniform, so analytics has a place to find those above/below average players/plays.
I do think there is something you can take out of it you can use, if your league/schedule is fairly uniform for IN SEASON adjustments to play calling/usage.
But the next season can be miles apart from the one you have on film from before.
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Post by coachwoodall on Jun 6, 2024 16:29:49 GMT -6
Also, another component to consider; how much information has BEEN inputed.
Do you have all the parameters needed in the system?
One year I wanted to make the case the the HC that defensively we blitzed/man covered too much. From my eye and general film watch based on 'success' versus 'failure', I thought this was the case.
Then when I went into the post season film to pull out data there were many glaringly missing components from the data sheet. Things like not marked like:
-Pass Interference plays
-QB pressures that resulted in incompletions
-QB scrabbles
-Holding plays on the offense
-Pressure shows that made the offense jump off sides
-Pressure shows that WE jumped offsides
...and so forth.
Some are more obvious than others, but football is 11 v 11, not the 1 v 1 like baseball.
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Post by 44dlcoach on Jun 6, 2024 19:05:59 GMT -6
I like to compare the percentage that I'm calling things in the game to the percentage of practice reps we spent on those same calls.
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