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Post by coachcb on Mar 9, 2023 15:41:40 GMT -6
Went to the booth long ago as the OL/DC and was in the HC ear on O all the time. Don't think I could ever call a game on the sidelines again. What are the benefits you see from the box? The usual answers are about seeing things better and keeping emotion out of decision making...anything beyond that? wingtol same question Having the ability to write things down helps me immensely. Having other guys chart fronts, formations, calls, D&D (etc) is fantastic but it sucks not getting full access to it until half time. Even then, I don't have time to fully digest what I'm seeing. If I'm in the box, I can see more, do the charting and make adjustments quickly.
Communication can be lost in translation between the box and the field as well. When I see something in the box I want fixed, I'm very clear and concise about it over the headset. I can't say the same about issues that have come down to me on the field.
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Post by silkyice on Mar 10, 2023 11:56:12 GMT -6
What are the benefits you see from the box? The usual answers are about seeing things better and keeping emotion out of decision making...anything beyond that? wingtol same question Having the ability to write things down helps me immensely. Having other guys chart fronts, formations, calls, D&D (etc) is fantastic but it sucks not getting full access to it until half time. Even then, I don't have time to fully digest what I'm seeing. If I'm in the box, I can see more, do the charting and make adjustments quickly.
Communication can be lost in translation between the box and the field as well. When I see something in the box I want fixed, I'm very clear and concise about it over the headset. I can't say the same about issues that have come down to me on the field.
This reminds me of another two advantages. One, being able to sit down. Or at least sit down in between possessions. Two, being able to truly ignore the game better and concentrate on getting ready for the next possession when you aren't up. |
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Post by coachcb on Mar 10, 2023 12:27:47 GMT -6
Having the ability to write things down helps me immensely. Having other guys chart fronts, formations, calls, D&D (etc) is fantastic but it sucks not getting full access to it until half time. Even then, I don't have time to fully digest what I'm seeing. If I'm in the box, I can see more, do the charting and make adjustments quickly.
Communication can be lost in translation between the box and the field as well. When I see something in the box I want fixed, I'm very clear and concise about it over the headset. I can't say the same about issues that have come down to me on the field.
This reminds me of another two advantages. One, being able to sit down. Or at least sit down in between possessions. Two, being able to truly ignore the game better and concentrate on getting ready for the next possession when you aren't up.
Great point. Being away from the emotion of the sideline is immensely helpful for me as well. There are times when I have a helluva time focusing when the sideline gets chaotic.
Two years ago, we won a game in overtime on homecoming night. It was a great game but intense from start to finish. Between the stands, the staffs and the officials, things got a bit rowdy. I can almost guarantee I would've blown a defensive call or two during that game if I hadn't been in the box. I made the adjustments that needed to be made, based on the information I had in front of me and what I saw. Versus getting caught up in the moment and calling something dumb.
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Post by wingtol on Mar 11, 2023 10:57:29 GMT -6
What are the benefits you see from the box? The usual answers are about seeing things better and keeping emotion out of decision making...anything beyond that? wingtol same question That's kinda like asking, "Besides that she's hot and rich what do you like about her?" Yeah no chit....besides a clam atmosphere where you can make rational decisions based on a view no one else has what are the beneftis? Well I can chew all I want and swear at the officials without fear of repercussion. |
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Post by larrymoe on Mar 11, 2023 11:37:05 GMT -6
That's kinda like asking, "Besides that she's hot and rich what do you like about her?" Yeah no chit....besides a clam atmosphere where you can make rational decisions I mean, if she gives a clam atmosphere, she's a keeper... |
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Post by tripsclosed on Mar 11, 2023 12:26:41 GMT -6
Yeah no chit....besides a clam atmosphere where you can make rational decisions I mean, if she gives a clam atmosphere, she's a keeper... Hahaha |
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Post by coachcb on Mar 13, 2023 8:44:37 GMT -6
That's kinda like asking, "Besides that she's hot and rich what do you like about her?" Yeah no chit....besides a clam atmosphere where you can make rational decisions based on a view no one else has what are the beneftis? Well I can chew all I want and swear at the officials without fear of repercussion.
Well... I have gotten a flag for hollering at the officials from the box.. We were away and a team ran speed option at us. Our DE lit up the QB, the ball hit the ground and we recovered. It was a clean tackle and I figured they they were going to call roughing the passer on us. The officiating crew had pulled the same chit with our JV team a few days earlier. So, I yelled at them while leaning out the window and the official picked up the flag and then they all huddled up.
The officials tossed two more flags; unnecessary roughness on the DE and an unsportsmanlike for my outburst. So, big screw up on my part.
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Post by silkyice on Mar 13, 2023 9:34:41 GMT -6
Yeah no chit....besides a clam atmosphere where you can make rational decisions based on a view no one else has what are the beneftis? Well I can chew all I want and swear at the officials without fear of repercussion. Well... I have gotten a flag for hollering at the officials from the box.. We were away and a team ran speed option at us. Our DE lit up the QB, the ball hit the ground and we recovered. It was a clean tackle and I figured they they were going to call roughing the passer on us. The officiating crew had pulled the same chit with our JV team a few days earlier. So, I yelled at them while leaning out the window and the official picked up the flag and then they all huddled up.
The officials tossed two more flags; unnecessary roughness on the DE and an unsportsmanlike for my outburst. So, big screw up on my part.
What made the hit illegal? Was it late, out of bounds, after the whistle, targeting? You shouldn't just get a penalty for hitting someone hard. |
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Post by coachcb on Mar 13, 2023 10:08:20 GMT -6
Well... I have gotten a flag for hollering at the officials from the box.. We were away and a team ran speed option at us. Our DE lit up the QB, the ball hit the ground and we recovered. It was a clean tackle and I figured they they were going to call roughing the passer on us. The officiating crew had pulled the same chit with our JV team a few days earlier. So, I yelled at them while leaning out the window and the official picked up the flag and then they all huddled up.
The officials tossed two more flags; unnecessary roughness on the DE and an unsportsmanlike for my outburst. So, big screw up on my part.
What made the hit illegal? Was it late, out of bounds, after the whistle, targeting? You shouldn't just get a penalty for hitting someone hard.
Your guess is as good as mine, my friend. Like I said, it was a clean hit; it wasn't late, there was no helmet-helmet contact (etc). The DE made contact as the QB was pitching which caused a fumble.
We had the same thing happen during the JV game the previous week. The QB declared himself as a runner on SO, was tackled by the DE he was trying to read and fumbled as he was trying to pitch. The same crew called it roughing the passer during that game but picked up the flag after our very calm and collected OC showed them the rule regarding a QB declaring himself a runner.
I figure they were trying to call the same thing during the varsity game, given the fact that they scooped up that flag. They were probably trying to send a message by calling unnecessary roughness. They might not have called it had I not thrown an exceptionally loud fit from the box. It wasn't even a "hometown" crew; they were a group of guys from our school's rival town who officiated both games.
I know our HC and AD reported the call to the state officiating office. I don't know what became of it as I never asked. I got my a-- chewed thoroughly for getting us that unsportsmanlike (rightfully so).
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