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Post by coachwoodall on Dec 8, 2022 20:53:04 GMT -6
As an intellectual thought process, how could you (HC/AD/etc...) use the NIL to grow your football program?
Colleges use this as a de facto method to pay players. And certain individuals can parlay this in to multi-year contracts/commitments.
How would a HS use this for a kid that might be on the radar for 1-2 seasons. I.E. a stud has a great Jr year and is coming back for an anticipated Sr year.
Where would the program benefit by any of this??? Transfers are.... transfers, so how do you use NIL to benefit/grow your own kids?
And then this taps into the MS alignment thread... how deep does it end up going? We've seen in recent years the 8th grade QB that got an offer....
Then here is the biggest crux I've thought about: what if your HS program has running deal for your stud QB/RB/LB/etc for a NIL deal from the Ford dealership, but the college recruiting him has a standing offer from a Chevrolet dealership? Does there become a conflict between what/who the HS offers and potential colleges offers?
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Post by bulldogsdc on Dec 9, 2022 8:10:33 GMT -6
Our OL has lineman dinner every Wednesday at the same restaurant. Each kid pays around 20 bucks after tip. I can see this restaurant comping a portion of the bill to post pictures or make an Ad with our guys in it. The owner is already a big supporter.
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Post by larrymoe on Dec 9, 2022 9:35:38 GMT -6
Our OL has lineman dinner every Wednesday at the same restaurant. Each kid pays around 20 bucks after tip. I can see this restaurant comping a portion of the bill to post pictures or make an Ad with our guys in it. The owner is already a big supporter. We had a local pizza place when I was in HS do a "team of the week" for football and every member of the team- think OL, DBs, punt team, KOR- would get a free all you could eat on Monday night. It was only like $5 back then. It was a great deal for them and for us. UNTIL, some of us Srs realized that some of the JV kids weren't using theirs when they would win because they had a JV game that Monday night so we would start going using their names. It worked for about a month until a JV kid tried to use his and they told him he'd already eaten. We had to run a little extra after the restaurant called our coaches. They continued it to the end of the season and then it died a quiet death. |
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Post by coachcb on Dec 9, 2022 10:48:29 GMT -6
If it can benefit a position group or the whole team, I'd jump at it. Meals, food, gear, etc..etc... I'll stay out of individual players and NILs as I could see that becoming a problem. If Johnny's parents are p-ssed over Billy's NIL, they can take it up with someone other than myself.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2022 13:42:53 GMT -6
It depends on where you are and who your boosters are. I anticipate it turning into a crazy free-for-all for a few years until some revisions are made.
As I mentioned in the other thread, our state just approved NIL for HS but banned schools having any part in it. They can't help set up the deals and the players can't use the school name, mascot, logo, or uniform at all. That limits what we can do. The rule was put in place to allow kids to cash in by selling merchandise and doing appearances, camps, and advertising.
However... if a coach or admin is friends with someone who has money, and they feel that "fundraising" money could better be spent on players than donations, that's going to be a tough thing to prove.
People are looking at this like it'll be the NCAA and players will be signing multi-million dollar deals as teens, but that will only apply to a handful of very highly recruited kids. For the coach of a run-of-the-mill HS, if you have a D1 stud, be ready to lose him to a school where fans have more money. For most kids, a few hundred bucks might be enough to steer them to a school. For others with a more entrepreneurial spirit, I can see a lot of them going the "influencer" route and building a personal brand like aspiring rappers and other social media personalities do.
A really cheap, easy way for players to start up their own "merchandise" is to go to a print-on-demand site like RedBubble, upload a few designs of their "brand" on some stuff, and sit back and collect the portion of the profits they get in return. They might only make $50 if they do this, but it's a start. For other kids who are popular in their communities, they might be able to get some appearance fees and sell autographs, too.
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Post by wingtol on Dec 12, 2022 16:34:12 GMT -6
PA rules about NIL:
But the PIAA’s NIL rule has many stipulations. For example, it must not be used “as an incentive for enrollment decisions or membership on a team.” Also, no school, coach, booster clubs, collectives, administrators or alumni may arrange or pay for a student’s NIL deal. And a student is not permitted to use a PIAA school, team name, nicknames or logos in their NIL deals. A student also can’t promote anything endorsing adult entertainment products, alcohol products, casinos or gambling operations, tobacco or electronic smoking products, prescription pharmaceuticals or weapons, firearms and ammunition.
So seems like they are saying sure you can have NIL but then also being like yeah well about those NILs....
Already had some moron coach on FB posting about getting deals for his kids and brokering them, until several people pointed out that was illegal according to these guidelines. Shocking the post disappeared quickly.
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