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Post by coachcb on Aug 24, 2022 10:11:48 GMT -6
(I apologize ahead of time for the ranty nature of this thread. For all intents and purposes, practices and participation have been great so far. This is an isolated incident that has my hackles up a bit.)
I've taken over as the overall HC of our middle school program this year. This level has always been my "vibe" and I enjoy it. Participation at this level has been low the last few years but we're starting off strong this year. We have a great staff and a solid group of kids. Unfortunately, there has to be a hiccup.
In our parent meeting in July, I had a father approach me about "reserving" a jersey for his 7th grader. I had already told the parents that we'd be dishing out game gear by grade: 8th graders first, then then 7th, and then 6th. And that we'd be checking out jerseys the day before a game and they'd check it back the game was finished. We also don't have many duplicate sets of jerseys. He said he understood and was pleasant.
When we checked out practice gear, mom rolls up with dad and also asks me if his son can reserve a number. I gave her the same spiel I gave her husband. Now, given mom's tone of voice, I could tell they'd already discussed it and she said "hey, hold my beer". She wasn't pleased about being rebuked and asked me why it was such a big deal. I explained to her that, again, I didn't many duplicates of numbers and this was how we were handling it. She huffed off, her kid got his practice gear and off they went.
We're gearing up to start practice and I notice that this kid doesn't have any of his required paperwork in. I called the number they left me three times over three days, leaving polite messages about the paperwork And... The kid misses the first three days of practice which makes him ineligible to play in our first game (all of this was explained at the parent meeting and in voice messages to mom).
The kid finally shows up to practice, has a good attitude and works hard and we're happy to have him. Mom approaches me after practice and AGAIN asks about the flippin' jersey. I was a little more terse with her this time around and told her that he wouldn't be able to reserve a jersey, full stop. I also went home and sent her an email addressing the situation (CYA).
Mom responds and tells me that she's displeased with the PRACTICE jersey her son has gotten because it's not the number he wants. And, she also states that her son may quit if he gets the same game jersey number that's on his practice jersey. Once again, I explain to her that the practice jersey number will not be indicative of the game jersey. I CC the administration on it.
Now of course, this can't be the end of it. She takes to the parent Facebook page and lights into myself and the staff for not letting kids reserve jerseys. The actual parents stood up for us and shut her down but I still hear about all of this from the AD before I can even get to the post. I lock comments on the post, SS it and delete it.
Then, I sat in a meeting with Mom, Dad the player and the AD and get to listen to her rant about pulling her son because of "unfair treatment." The AD was very supportive and told her that was her choice and that we wouldn't be changing anything. So... She pulls her boy (they still have all of our gear) and I've had to block her on the Facebook page as she went on yet another rant.
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Post by tripsclosed on Aug 24, 2022 10:48:35 GMT -6
(I apologize ahead of time for the ranty nature of this thread. For all intents and purposes, practices and participation have been great so far. This is an isolated incident that has my hackles up a bit.)
I've taken over as the overall HC of our middle school program this year. This level has always been my "vibe" and I enjoy it. Participation at this level has been low the last few years but we're starting off strong this year. We have a great staff and a solid group of kids. Unfortunately, there has to be a hiccup.
In our parent meeting in July, I had a father approach me about "reserving" a jersey for his 7th grader. I had already told the parents that we'd be dishing out game gear by grade: 8th graders first, then then 7th, and then 6th. And that we'd be checking out jerseys the day before a game and they'd check it back the game was finished. We also don't have many duplicate sets of jerseys. He said he understood and was pleasant.
When we checked out practice gear, mom rolls up with dad and also asks me if his son can reserve a number. I gave her the same spiel I gave her husband. Now, given mom's tone of voice, I could tell they'd already discussed it and she said "hey, hold my beer". She wasn't pleased about being rebuked and asked me why it was such a big deal. I explained to her that, again, I didn't many duplicates of numbers and this was how we were handling it. She huffed off, her kid got his practice gear and off they went.
We're gearing up to start practice and I notice that this kid doesn't have any of his required paperwork in. I called the number they left me three times over three days, leaving polite messages about the paperwork And... The kid misses the first three days of practice which makes him ineligible to play in our first game (all of this was explained at the parent meeting and in voice messages to mom).
The kid finally shows up to practice, has a good attitude and works hard and we're happy to have him. Mom approaches me after practice and AGAIN asks about the flippin' jersey. I was a little more terse with her this time around and told her that he wouldn't be able to reserve a jersey, full stop. I also went home and sent her an email addressing the situation (CYA).
Mom responds and tells me that she's displeased with the PRACTICE jersey her son has gotten because it's not the number he wants. And, she also states that her son may quit if he gets the same game jersey number that's on his practice jersey. Once again, I explain to her that the practice jersey number will not be indicative of the game jersey. I CC the administration on it.
Now of course, this can't be the end of it. She takes to the parent Facebook page and lights into myself and the staff for not letting kids reserve jerseys. The actual parents stood up for us and shut her down but I still hear about all of this from the AD before I can even get to the post. I lock comments on the post, SS it and delete it.
Then, I sat in a meeting with Mom, Dad the player and the AD and get to listen to her rant about pulling her son because of "unfair treatment." The AD was very supportive and told her that was her choice and that we wouldn't be changing anything. So... She pulls her boy (they still have all of our gear) and I've had to block her on the Facebook page as she went on yet another rant.
All over the #12. People are so fkn irritating |
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Post by tog on Aug 24, 2022 11:01:56 GMT -6
(I apologize ahead of time for the ranty nature of this thread. For all intents and purposes, practices and participation have been great so far. This is an isolated incident that has my hackles up a bit.)
I've taken over as the overall HC of our middle school program this year. This level has always been my "vibe" and I enjoy it. Participation at this level has been low the last few years but we're starting off strong this year. We have a great staff and a solid group of kids. Unfortunately, there has to be a hiccup.
In our parent meeting in July, I had a father approach me about "reserving" a jersey for his 7th grader. I had already told the parents that we'd be dishing out game gear by grade: 8th graders first, then then 7th, and then 6th. And that we'd be checking out jerseys the day before a game and they'd check it back the game was finished. We also don't have many duplicate sets of jerseys. He said he understood and was pleasant.
When we checked out practice gear, mom rolls up with dad and also asks me if his son can reserve a number. I gave her the same spiel I gave her husband. Now, given mom's tone of voice, I could tell they'd already discussed it and she said "hey, hold my beer". She wasn't pleased about being rebuked and asked me why it was such a big deal. I explained to her that, again, I didn't many duplicates of numbers and this was how we were handling it. She huffed off, her kid got his practice gear and off they went.
We're gearing up to start practice and I notice that this kid doesn't have any of his required paperwork in. I called the number they left me three times over three days, leaving polite messages about the paperwork And... The kid misses the first three days of practice which makes him ineligible to play in our first game (all of this was explained at the parent meeting and in voice messages to mom).
The kid finally shows up to practice, has a good attitude and works hard and we're happy to have him. Mom approaches me after practice and AGAIN asks about the flippin' jersey. I was a little more terse with her this time around and told her that he wouldn't be able to reserve a jersey, full stop. I also went home and sent her an email addressing the situation (CYA).
Mom responds and tells me that she's displeased with the PRACTICE jersey her son has gotten because it's not the number he wants. And, she also states that her son may quit if he gets the same game jersey number that's on his practice jersey. Once again, I explain to her that the practice jersey number will not be indicative of the game jersey. I CC the administration on it.
Now of course, this can't be the end of it. She takes to the parent Facebook page and lights into myself and the staff for not letting kids reserve jerseys. The actual parents stood up for us and shut her down but I still hear about all of this from the AD before I can even get to the post. I lock comments on the post, SS it and delete it.
Then, I sat in a meeting with Mom, Dad the player and the AD and get to listen to her rant about pulling her son because of "unfair treatment." The AD was very supportive and told her that was her choice and that we wouldn't be changing anything. So... She pulls her boy (they still have all of our gear) and I've had to block her on the Facebook page as she went on yet another rant.
All over the #12. why would the ad even consider a group meeting with a tool like that? |
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Post by blb on Aug 24, 2022 11:10:54 GMT -6
In 1980 on the first day of a graduate level Coaching Football class I was in the instructor (one of my college coaches and a life-long mentor) said "Pro Football has been a bad influence filtering down to college and HS." In the intervening 42 years it has only gotten worse, especially with the explosion of Cable TV and social media. The bad part is there is really nothing HS or MS coaches (like coachcb ) can do about it other than stand their ground, quit, or be fired. |
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Post by blb on Aug 24, 2022 11:17:23 GMT -6
why would the ad even consider a group meeting with a tool like that? Because in this day and age the AD has to. At least he-she backed his-her coach, which doesn't always happen in every situation-everywhere. |
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Post by coachcb on Aug 24, 2022 11:38:03 GMT -6
togCYA, my friend. Mainly because she splattered it all over social media and caused a ruckus within the community. Our AD is a standup guy; if we're meeting with a parent it's typically so he can look them in the face and say "You're wrong, this is done and we're backing the coach."
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Post by dbeck84 on Aug 24, 2022 11:56:23 GMT -6
(I apologize ahead of time for the ranty nature of this thread. For all intents and purposes, practices and participation have been great so far. This is an isolated incident that has my hackles up a bit.)
I've taken over as the overall HC of our middle school program this year. This level has always been my "vibe" and I enjoy it. Participation at this level has been low the last few years but we're starting off strong this year. We have a great staff and a solid group of kids. Unfortunately, there has to be a hiccup.
In our parent meeting in July, I had a father approach me about "reserving" a jersey for his 7th grader. I had already told the parents that we'd be dishing out game gear by grade: 8th graders first, then then 7th, and then 6th. And that we'd be checking out jerseys the day before a game and they'd check it back the game was finished. We also don't have many duplicate sets of jerseys. He said he understood and was pleasant.
When we checked out practice gear, mom rolls up with dad and also asks me if his son can reserve a number. I gave her the same spiel I gave her husband. Now, given mom's tone of voice, I could tell they'd already discussed it and she said "hey, hold my beer". She wasn't pleased about being rebuked and asked me why it was such a big deal. I explained to her that, again, I didn't many duplicates of numbers and this was how we were handling it. She huffed off, her kid got his practice gear and off they went.
We're gearing up to start practice and I notice that this kid doesn't have any of his required paperwork in. I called the number they left me three times over three days, leaving polite messages about the paperwork And... The kid misses the first three days of practice which makes him ineligible to play in our first game (all of this was explained at the parent meeting and in voice messages to mom).
The kid finally shows up to practice, has a good attitude and works hard and we're happy to have him. Mom approaches me after practice and AGAIN asks about the flippin' jersey. I was a little more terse with her this time around and told her that he wouldn't be able to reserve a jersey, full stop. I also went home and sent her an email addressing the situation (CYA).
Mom responds and tells me that she's displeased with the PRACTICE jersey her son has gotten because it's not the number he wants. And, she also states that her son may quit if he gets the same game jersey number that's on his practice jersey. Once again, I explain to her that the practice jersey number will not be indicative of the game jersey. I CC the administration on it.
Now of course, this can't be the end of it. She takes to the parent Facebook page and lights into myself and the staff for not letting kids reserve jerseys. The actual parents stood up for us and shut her down but I still hear about all of this from the AD before I can even get to the post. I lock comments on the post, SS it and delete it.
Then, I sat in a meeting with Mom, Dad the player and the AD and get to listen to her rant about pulling her son because of "unfair treatment." The AD was very supportive and told her that was her choice and that we wouldn't be changing anything. So... She pulls her boy (they still have all of our gear) and I've had to block her on the Facebook page as she went on yet another rant.
All over the #12. Is the kid Tom Brady's son? Is this where he's been for the past week? |
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Post by blb on Aug 24, 2022 13:25:32 GMT -6
And this ( coachcb) is just MS football. |
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Post by blb on Aug 24, 2022 13:40:55 GMT -6
(I apologize ahead of time for the ranty nature of this thread. For all intents and purposes, practices and participation have been great so far. This is an isolated incident that has my hackles up a bit.)
I've taken over as the overall HC of our middle school program this year. This level has always been my "vibe" and I enjoy it. Participation at this level has been low the last few years but we're starting off strong this year. We have a great staff and a solid group of kids. Unfortunately, there has to be a hiccup.
In our parent meeting in July, I had a father approach me about "reserving" a jersey for his 7th grader. I had already told the parents that we'd be dishing out game gear by grade: 8th graders first, then then 7th, and then 6th. And that we'd be checking out jerseys the day before a game and they'd check it back the game was finished. We also don't have many duplicate sets of jerseys. He said he understood and was pleasant.
When we checked out practice gear, mom rolls up with dad and also asks me if his son can reserve a number. I gave her the same spiel I gave her husband. Now, given mom's tone of voice, I could tell they'd already discussed it and she said "hey, hold my beer". She wasn't pleased about being rebuked and asked me why it was such a big deal. I explained to her that, again, I didn't many duplicates of numbers and this was how we were handling it. She huffed off, her kid got his practice gear and off they went.
We're gearing up to start practice and I notice that this kid doesn't have any of his required paperwork in. I called the number they left me three times over three days, leaving polite messages about the paperwork And... The kid misses the first three days of practice which makes him ineligible to play in our first game (all of this was explained at the parent meeting and in voice messages to mom).
The kid finally shows up to practice, has a good attitude and works hard and we're happy to have him. Mom approaches me after practice and AGAIN asks about the flippin' jersey. I was a little more terse with her this time around and told her that he wouldn't be able to reserve a jersey, full stop. I also went home and sent her an email addressing the situation (CYA).
Mom responds and tells me that she's displeased with the PRACTICE jersey her son has gotten because it's not the number he wants. And, she also states that her son may quit if he gets the same game jersey number that's on his practice jersey. Once again, I explain to her that the practice jersey number will not be indicative of the game jersey. I CC the administration on it.
Now of course, this can't be the end of it. She takes to the parent Facebook page and lights into myself and the staff for not letting kids reserve jerseys. The actual parents stood up for us and shut her down but I still hear about all of this from the AD before I can even get to the post. I lock comments on the post, SS it and delete it.
Then, I sat in a meeting with Mom, Dad the player and the AD and get to listen to her rant about pulling her son because of "unfair treatment." The AD was very supportive and told her that was her choice and that we wouldn't be changing anything. So... She pulls her boy (they still have all of our gear) and I've had to block her on the Facebook page as she went on yet another rant.
All over the #12. People are so fkn irritating Apparently Mom would rather have Junior not play at all than wear a number other than 12. That's not irritating, that's just stupid. And as Ron White said, "You can't fix stupid." |
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Post by tripsclosed on Aug 24, 2022 13:42:59 GMT -6
why would the ad even consider a group meeting with a tool like that? Because in this day and age the AD has to. At least he-she backed his-her coach, which doesn't always happen in every situation-everywhere. Yeah. From what i have seen on here over the years with stories like this, this AD is stand up and the exception rather than the rule, sadly |
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Post by tog on Aug 24, 2022 13:48:28 GMT -6
tog CYA, my friend. Mainly because she splattered it all over social media and caused a ruckus within the community. Our AD is a standup guy; if we're meeting with a parent it's typically so he can look them in the face and say "You're wrong, this is done and we're backing the coach." I get it but bringing you into the meeting I don't like the stupid parents have already gone through you the ad should just bring them in and tell em without you in there (unless they just need a witness) I don't miss this kind of bs at all |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2022 14:02:53 GMT -6
Did they ever explain why he so urgently had to have #12 and why this was more important than anything football related?
If they’re going to be this psycho over the kid’s number, I can only imagine how much of a nightmare they’d be over dozens of other things over the course of a season.
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Post by blb on Aug 24, 2022 14:13:22 GMT -6
Did they ever explain why he so urgently had to have #12 and why this was more important than anything football related? If they’re going to be this psycho over the kid’s number, I can only imagine how much of a nightmare they’d be over dozens of other things over the course of a season. According to coachcb 's post he didn't have any of his required paperwork in before first day of practice. If it were me he wouldn't even have been issued equipment. Missed first three days of practice. I'd probably have dropped him from team. But I've never coached MS. So take that FWIW. |
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Post by coachcb on Aug 25, 2022 10:41:02 GMT -6
Did they ever explain why he so urgently had to have #12 and why this was more important than anything football related? If they’re going to be this psycho over the kid’s number, I can only imagine how much of a nightmare they’d be over dozens of other things over the course of a season.
Of course! He loves Tom Brady! And that should be enough to fork it over. Funny thing; the kid doesn't want to play QB.
I know she'll cause more problems but I think they'll be minimized. Mainly because the other parents have shut her down. I'm knocking on wood there; she could kick start a little mutiny that'll make the next two months miserable. If that happens, then I will soldier through and go into football retirement and just coach track. I have no patience for this stuff anymore.
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Post by blb on Aug 25, 2022 13:14:35 GMT -6
Did they ever explain why he so urgently had to have #12 and why this was more important than anything football related? If they’re going to be this psycho over the kid’s number, I can only imagine how much of a nightmare they’d be over dozens of other things over the course of a season.
Of course! He loves Tom Brady! And that should be enough to fork it over. Funny thing; the kid doesn't want to play QB.
I know she'll cause more problems but I think they'll be minimized. Mainly because the other parents have shut her down. I'm knocking on wood there; she could kick start a little mutiny that'll make the next two months miserable. If that happens, then I will soldier through and go into football retirement and just coach track. I have no patience for this stuff anymore.
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Post by coachcb on Aug 26, 2022 8:54:57 GMT -6
Did they ever explain why he so urgently had to have #12 and why this was more important than anything football related? If they’re going to be this psycho over the kid’s number, I can only imagine how much of a nightmare they’d be over dozens of other things over the course of a season. According to coachcb 's post he didn't have any of his required paperwork in before first day of practice. If it were me he wouldn't even have been issued equipment. Missed first three days of practice. I'd probably have dropped him from team. But I've never coached MS. So take that FWIW.
Paperwork has been a serious scramble at this school. We got our last physical in yesterday and we've been practicing for two weeks. We dished out equipment two days before practice started and only had a partial record of the paperwork that had been turned in. The office got a handle on the paperwork the day after we handed out gear and I haven't given anything to anyone who is missing stuff since.
Further update: Mom dropped off all of the kid's gear at the office yesterday and he's done. According to Facebook, the school has treated him unfairly and he's done with football. Que sera...
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Post by moose18 on Aug 26, 2022 12:35:40 GMT -6
Move the kid to Center and tell the parents it is against the rules for him to wear #12
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Post by freezeoption on Aug 27, 2022 12:18:34 GMT -6
It's middle school. I have coached middle school the last three years. Some parents think there kid is the next star. Most of the kids can't remember crap let alone a play but I let it runoff like a ducks back. Six games, no scouting weights is a suggestion. It's cake.
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Post by CS on Aug 27, 2022 16:39:29 GMT -6
tog CYA, my friend. Mainly because she splattered it all over social media and caused a ruckus within the community. Our AD is a standup guy; if we're meeting with a parent it's typically so he can look them in the face and say "You're wrong, this is done and we're backing the coach." I get it but bringing you into the meeting I don't like the stupid parents have already gone through you the ad should just bring them in and tell em without you in there (unless they just need a witness) I don't miss this kind of bs at all I would rather be there. I had an ad that would take parent meetings where the parent would completely go around us. Then he would take their side in front of them and come to us and tell us the complaints then proceed to tell us how he had our backs the whole time. Funny thing is the parents just kept going to him and not us. Dude was a coward |
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Post by CS on Aug 27, 2022 16:41:12 GMT -6
(I apologize ahead of time for the ranty nature of this thread. For all intents and purposes, practices and participation have been great so far. This is an isolated incident that has my hackles up a bit.)
I've taken over as the overall HC of our middle school program this year. This level has always been my "vibe" and I enjoy it. Participation at this level has been low the last few years but we're starting off strong this year. We have a great staff and a solid group of kids. Unfortunately, there has to be a hiccup.
In our parent meeting in July, I had a father approach me about "reserving" a jersey for his 7th grader. I had already told the parents that we'd be dishing out game gear by grade: 8th graders first, then then 7th, and then 6th. And that we'd be checking out jerseys the day before a game and they'd check it back the game was finished. We also don't have many duplicate sets of jerseys. He said he understood and was pleasant.
When we checked out practice gear, mom rolls up with dad and also asks me if his son can reserve a number. I gave her the same spiel I gave her husband. Now, given mom's tone of voice, I could tell they'd already discussed it and she said "hey, hold my beer". She wasn't pleased about being rebuked and asked me why it was such a big deal. I explained to her that, again, I didn't many duplicates of numbers and this was how we were handling it. She huffed off, her kid got his practice gear and off they went.
We're gearing up to start practice and I notice that this kid doesn't have any of his required paperwork in. I called the number they left me three times over three days, leaving polite messages about the paperwork And... The kid misses the first three days of practice which makes him ineligible to play in our first game (all of this was explained at the parent meeting and in voice messages to mom).
The kid finally shows up to practice, has a good attitude and works hard and we're happy to have him. Mom approaches me after practice and AGAIN asks about the flippin' jersey. I was a little more terse with her this time around and told her that he wouldn't be able to reserve a jersey, full stop. I also went home and sent her an email addressing the situation (CYA).
Mom responds and tells me that she's displeased with the PRACTICE jersey her son has gotten because it's not the number he wants. And, she also states that her son may quit if he gets the same game jersey number that's on his practice jersey. Once again, I explain to her that the practice jersey number will not be indicative of the game jersey. I CC the administration on it.
Now of course, this can't be the end of it. She takes to the parent Facebook page and lights into myself and the staff for not letting kids reserve jerseys. The actual parents stood up for us and shut her down but I still hear about all of this from the AD before I can even get to the post. I lock comments on the post, SS it and delete it.
Then, I sat in a meeting with Mom, Dad the player and the AD and get to listen to her rant about pulling her son because of "unfair treatment." The AD was very supportive and told her that was her choice and that we wouldn't be changing anything. So... She pulls her boy (they still have all of our gear) and I've had to block her on the Facebook page as she went on yet another rant.
All over the #12. You’re better off. Kid sounds ok but his mom isn’t worth having him unless he’s Bo Jackson |
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Post by tripsclosed on Aug 27, 2022 17:03:32 GMT -6
I get it but bringing you into the meeting I don't like the stupid parents have already gone through you the ad should just bring them in and tell em without you in there (unless they just need a witness) I don't miss this kind of bs at all I would rather be there. I had an ad that would take parent meetings where the parent would completely go around us. Then he would take their side in front of them and come to us and tell us the complaints then proceed to tell us how he had our backs the whole time. Funny thing is the parents just kept going to him and not us. Dude was a coward From what I have seen with stories here over the years that, or situations almost that bad, are far too common... |
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Post by coachcb on Aug 29, 2022 10:42:29 GMT -6
I would rather be there. I had an ad that would take parent meetings where the parent would completely go around us. Then he would take their side in front of them and come to us and tell us the complaints then proceed to tell us how he had our backs the whole time. Funny thing is the parents just kept going to him and not us. Dude was a coward From what I have seen with stories here over the years that, or situations almost that bad, are far too common...
Agreed. I hate meetings over petty crap but I want to be there to make sure there' no "misunderstandings". I don't tend to pull my punches in those types of meetings and I make it clear where I stand with varying degrees of bullchit.
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Post by Defcord on Aug 29, 2022 12:28:14 GMT -6
I get it but bringing you into the meeting I don't like the stupid parents have already gone through you the ad should just bring them in and tell em without you in there (unless they just need a witness) I don't miss this kind of bs at all I would rather be there. I had an ad that would take parent meetings where the parent would completely go around us. Then he would take their side in front of them and come to us and tell us the complaints then proceed to tell us how he had our backs the whole time. Funny thing is the parents just kept going to him and not us. Dude was a coward I agree and I think the kid should be there too. I do feel like coaches bring some of the drama on by not just being straight forward with parents and kids. The hemming and hawing some coaches do leave parents with an ambiguous message. If everyone is there, might as well shoot em straight and get on with it. I also will follow up these meetings with a recap email to the administrator in the meeting so that way everything is documented. |
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Post by silkyice on Aug 29, 2022 12:59:09 GMT -6
Dude, this is actually great. You got rid of a psycho family. That is a win.
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Post by silkyice on Aug 29, 2022 12:59:55 GMT -6
Is the kid Tom Brady's son? Is this where he's been for the past week? Hahahahahahahahahaha |
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Post by 44dlcoach on Aug 29, 2022 14:36:01 GMT -6
We are 2 games in. We are 0-2 so screw us, we brought this on ourselves, but the HC has already had one parent meeting about playing time (backup QB) and has another this week that I'm guessing will be about playcalling. HC is a HOF lock when he retires. Parents do what parents do.
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Post by coachcb on Aug 29, 2022 14:58:36 GMT -6
Dude, this is actually great. You got rid of a psycho family. That is a win. Boy Howdy, did we ever....
Apparently, she's still going nuts over Facebook. She's gotten on a couple of local pages and ranted about the program. I heard at lunch that she's actually been blocked from one of them over it.
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Post by tripsclosed on Aug 29, 2022 16:41:33 GMT -6
Dude, this is actually great. You got rid of a psycho family. That is a win. Sounds like psycho mom, not psycho family lol |
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Post by tripsclosed on Aug 29, 2022 16:47:19 GMT -6
I would rather be there. I had an ad that would take parent meetings where the parent would completely go around us. Then he would take their side in front of them and come to us and tell us the complaints then proceed to tell us how he had our backs the whole time. Funny thing is the parents just kept going to him and not us. Dude was a coward I agree and I think the kid should be there too. I do feel like coaches bring some of the drama on by not just being straight forward with parents and kids. The hemming and hawing some coaches do leave parents with an ambiguous message. If everyone is there, might as well shoot em straight and get on with it. I also will follow up these meetings with a recap email to the administrator in the meeting so that way everything is documented. Yup I think coaches *might* (not 100% sold on my own idea, here) could do themselves some favors by having as near full disclosure as possible. Explain to the parents as much as they want to know on the whys and ins and outs of jersey numbers, sideline organization, coach placement in the box, the scheme and playcalling, even the brand of fkn headsets, etc. Playing time (i.e. why player A plays x% of the time and player B plays y% of the time) is obviously the main exception to that. Tell em as much as they want to know, and if they want to argue for something different, they better have reasoning at least as detailed as something @coacharnold would put together for us here 🙂. Otherwise, shut up and get back up in the stands. |
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Post by coachcb on Aug 30, 2022 8:24:28 GMT -6
I would rather be there. I had an ad that would take parent meetings where the parent would completely go around us. Then he would take their side in front of them and come to us and tell us the complaints then proceed to tell us how he had our backs the whole time. Funny thing is the parents just kept going to him and not us. Dude was a coward I agree and I think the kid should be there too. I do feel like coaches bring some of the drama on by not just being straight forward with parents and kids. The hemming and hawing some coaches do leave parents with an ambiguous message. If everyone is there, might as well shoot em straight and get on with it. I also will follow up these meetings with a recap email to the administrator in the meeting so that way everything is documented.
Agreed. We laid out a lot with the parents in our two meetings and missed very little. I'm too old to be anything but straightforward with the parents about the expectations that we have for the program. In our first parent meeting this year, we had a dad who wasn't happy about our developmental philosophy when it comes to playing time for the younger kids:
"Well, what's gonna happen if the other team only plays their best kids?"
"We're going to keep rotating our boys in and we'll probably lose."
"What happens if EVERY team plays their studs and we don't?"
"Then we might lose every game this season. This is a non-negotiable within our program; the kids that have earned playing time through effort and attitude will be playing. At the end of the day, it's our job to teach the kids to enjoy the game of football and keeping them coming out. I'm not going to tell a 5th grader that if he busts hump all year, I might play him as a 6th grader."
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