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Post by larrymoe on Aug 28, 2022 18:42:18 GMT -6
Had the same thing happen to a buddy of mine. Kid parked across the street at a Love’s convenience store and slept. Coach caught him after a few times. When the mom asked later that season about why he wasn’t playing more my friend to her “he was in love’s” and walked off. Hilarious I'm sure there's some Feed the Cats like solution to this dealing with something having to do with culture or optimization of time or some # something, something. |
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Post by CS on Aug 28, 2022 19:07:37 GMT -6
Had the same thing happen to a buddy of mine. Kid parked across the street at a Love’s convenience store and slept. Coach caught him after a few times. When the mom asked later that season about why he wasn’t playing more my friend to her “he was in love’s” and walked off. Hilarious I'm sure there's some Feed the Cats like solution to this dealing with something having to do with culture or optimization of time or some # something, something. You give feed the cats a hard time with good reason for the most part but everyone here has been to weekend meetings that were absolutely worthless. Done dumb chit that doesn’t help because that’s what your “supposed to do.” FTC for me is doing only what helps with actual victories on the field Spoke with a buddy of mine the other day who took over a team that’s not very good. Called me at 7:30 at night just leaving the office after meetings with staff. He got beat this week 44-0. So what tf was the point of meetings until 7:30? |
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Post by larrymoe on Aug 28, 2022 19:16:37 GMT -6
I'm sure there's some Feed the Cats like solution to this dealing with something having to do with culture or optimization of time or some # something, something. You give feed the cats a hard time with good reason for the most part but everyone here has been to weekend meetings that were absolutely worthless. Done dumb chit that doesn’t help because that’s what your “supposed to do.” FTC for me is doing only what helps with actual victories on the field Spoke with a buddy of mine the other day who took over a team that’s not very good. Called me at 7:30 at night just leaving the office after meetings with staff. He got beat this week 44-0. So what tf was the point of meetings until 7:30? It's possible to not have meetings without joining the cult. Some of us did it for years. Edit- my initial FTC response was a snarky response to the cult's attitude that they have the answer to everything that ails, well, every sport. I'm sure that if you just fed the cats more, no kid would ever sleep in a Love's parking lot ever again. |
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Post by CS on Aug 28, 2022 19:49:22 GMT -6
You give feed the cats a hard time with good reason for the most part but everyone here has been to weekend meetings that were absolutely worthless. Done dumb chit that doesn’t help because that’s what your “supposed to do.” FTC for me is doing only what helps with actual victories on the field Spoke with a buddy of mine the other day who took over a team that’s not very good. Called me at 7:30 at night just leaving the office after meetings with staff. He got beat this week 44-0. So what tf was the point of meetings until 7:30? It's possible to not have meetings without joining the cult. Some of us did it for years. Edit- my initial FTC response was a snarky response to the cult's attitude that they have the answer to everything that ails, well, every sport. I'm sure that if you just fed the cats more, no kid would ever sleep in a Love's parking lot ever again. Absolutely agree. Some dudes need to ftc for real though |
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Post by blb on Aug 29, 2022 4:48:18 GMT -6
Spoke with a buddy of mine the other day who took over a team that’s not very good. Called me at 7:30 at night just leaving the office after meetings with staff. He got beat this week 44-0. So what tf was the point of meetings until 7:30? Imagine how bad it would have been if they hadn't gotten organized-prepared. |
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Post by CS on Aug 29, 2022 6:42:39 GMT -6
Spoke with a buddy of mine the other day who took over a team that’s not very good. Called me at 7:30 at night just leaving the office after meetings with staff. He got beat this week 44-0. So what tf was the point of meetings until 7:30? Imagine how bad it would have been if they hadn't gotten organized-prepared. You think you have to stay until 7:30 to get organized and prepped? |
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Post by blb on Aug 29, 2022 7:03:34 GMT -6
Imagine how bad it would have been if they hadn't gotten organized-prepared. You think you have to stay until 7:30 to get organized and prepped? That would depend on when we started. |
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Post by tripsclosed on Aug 29, 2022 14:12:29 GMT -6
Spoke with a buddy of mine the other day who took over a team that’s not very good. Called me at 7:30 at night just leaving the office after meetings with staff. He got beat this week 44-0. So what tf was the point of meetings until 7:30? Imagine how bad it would have been if they hadn't gotten organized-prepared. I'm gonna go with 52-0, would have cost em a touchdown and 2 pt conversion 😄😁 |
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Post by coachcb on Aug 31, 2022 8:58:25 GMT -6
I didn't truly learn to appreciate a minimalist attitude until I was a decade into coaching. The HC that I cut my teeth under had us meet for around four hours on Sundays. An hour was spent grading our positions, two hours was dedicated to breaking down the next week's opponent (scout cards, scouting report, etc..) and the final hour was getting the next week's practices in order. The coordinators put in a another few hours after that putting the game plan together. This was all before HUDL or internet game exchange services and we got this accomplished via VHS.
That guy didn't lose many games. Unfortunately, I was young and dumb and didn't see the method behind his madness.
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Post by 3rdandlong on Aug 31, 2022 11:32:34 GMT -6
This fits in with something I have assumed is coming for a while now- schools mandating that we take daily attendance for practice (and all extracurricular activities). I know it seems silly, but I'll break down the argument that will be used for it: these are children, and they are our (the school's) responsibility until they arrive safely home. We are expected to keep tabs on them, and know where they are. If a kid was ditching school, say he left campus after 1st period and didn't go to 2nd, we are expected to catch that with attendance; notify parents and make sure things are okay. Along those lines, if kid went to school but ditched practice after school and unfortunately something bad happened, he would still be our responsibility. This is why I've been waiting for districts to start mandating attendance policies for athletics. Similar to school, they just create a class on the teacher portal and you can input attendance on your phone. If Johnny was at school all day, but not at practice, it is noted in attendance and the athletic secretary calls home. Better start paying coaches accordingly then especially if what you are suggesting is off-season, out of class practices/workouts. |
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Post by cqmiller on Sept 1, 2022 6:37:53 GMT -6
If I got paid more than .05 cents an hour I'd be more willing to do stuff... why are teachers and coaches disappearing... all the bs that just isn't worth it.
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Post by larrymoe on Sept 1, 2022 7:00:10 GMT -6
If I got paid more than .05 cents an hour I'd be more willing to do stuff... why are teachers and coaches disappearing... all the bs that just isn't worth it. I don't know your schedule, but this "we get paid pennies" stuff aggravates me. In 2013(a season we coincidentally went 11-1 and went 3 rounds deep into the playoffs) I tracked the number of hours I put into the program as HC from the start of the off season in November to the end of the season the next October. It worked out to be around $3 an hour. Not fantastic, but not this over dramatic pennies on the hour stuff. Oh, and my coaching stipend was under $5,000. And, again I don't know your pay, or work load. But I can't imagine one is that much lower and the other that much higher to make up a $2.95 difference. |
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Post by coachwoodall on Sept 1, 2022 7:07:48 GMT -6
If I got paid more than .05 cents an hour I'd be more willing to do stuff... why are teachers and coaches disappearing... all the bs that just isn't worth it. Here is the crazy thing. The last labor relations ruling overtime pay and who gets, still left teachers(and coaches) out of being granted overtime. However, if a coach is NOT a certified teacher and works in some other capacity for the school district (aids, para-pros, maintenance, etc....), they CAN get overtime. We have several that are on our staff. They clock in and clock out. Sunday meetings, coming up to the school to flip the wash, upload video, enter Hudl data,...... all on the clock. They are making a killing. There is going to be something coming out this fall that may change the dynamics for teachers. It will be interesting to see how NLRB will rule. Supposedly will come down next month. |
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Post by fantom on Sept 1, 2022 9:28:26 GMT -6
If I got paid more than .05 cents an hour I'd be more willing to do stuff... why are teachers and coaches disappearing... all the bs that just isn't worth it. Here is the crazy thing. The last labor relations ruling overtime pay and who gets, still left teachers(and coaches) out of being granted overtime. However, if a coach is NOT a certified teacher and works in some other capacity for the school district (aids, para-pros, maintenance, etc....), they CAN get overtime. We have several that are on our staff. They clock in and clock out. Sunday meetings, coming up to the school to flip the wash, upload video, enter Hudl data,...... all on the clock. They are making a killing. There is going to be something coming out this fall that may change the dynamics for teachers. It will be interesting to see how NLRB will rule. Supposedly will come down next month. Be careful what you wish for. That was a local story. Here's what happened: A school custodian who also was an assistant football coach sued for overtime and won. The school district was required to pay him the overtime for the hours that he coached. They did then they fired him from his coaching job and made a rule that hourly school employees can't work as coaches, even on a volunteer basis. |
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Post by cqmiller on Sept 1, 2022 15:56:40 GMT -6
If I actually do the math, I make about $2 an hour... but there is a LOT of time I don't count because I can't include every 20-minute session I spend doing something for football as it comes up. Just today I had to spend 2-hours tracking a bunch of BS down and driving to pickup items for concession stand and answering emails that I don't count in my "normal day" stuff. So $2.00/hr is a gross OVER-estimate of how much I make.
I could literally make more working Sunday-only shifts at Jamba Juice every Sunday each week. But that is the thing... I'm willing to make jack-$h!t for the actual stuff that needs done... adding all the extra BS is what drives that willingness down to nothing.
Probably a good thing I'm thinking of just hanging it up after this year so I can literally spend an extra 20-hours a week with my family year-round and "sacrifice" the $3000 after-tax I make being the HC.
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Post by coachd5085 on Sept 3, 2022 10:48:16 GMT -6
If I got paid more than .05 cents an hour I'd be more willing to do stuff... why are teachers and coaches disappearing... all the bs that just isn't worth it. It isn't just teachers, coaches etc. This is a similar issue among the vast majority of "social welfare" (can't think of a better term, but public servant type work whose jobs involve direct contact with the public) style positions. More and more demands, less and less (relative) compensation, and then exasperation at growing shortages. |
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Post by irishdog on Sept 3, 2022 13:52:15 GMT -6
If I actually do the math, I make about $2 an hour... but there is a LOT of time I don't count because I can't include every 20-minute session I spend doing something for football as it comes up. Just today I had to spend 2-hours tracking a bunch of BS down and driving to pickup items for concession stand and answering emails that I don't count in my "normal day" stuff. So $2.00/hr is a gross OVER-estimate of how much I make. I could literally make more working Sunday-only shifts at Jamba Juice every Sunday each week. But that is the thing... I'm willing to make jack-$h!t for the actual stuff that needs done... adding all the extra BS is what drives that willingness down to nothing. Probably a good thing I'm thinking of just hanging it up after this year so I can literally spend an extra 20-hours a week with my family year-round and "sacrifice" the $3000 after-tax I make being the HC. One of the worst idle moments I had in my career as a high school AD/HFC was figuring out how much money I made per hour. Was I surprised (and disgusted). It was at that point I became conflicted as to why I was doing it in the first place and decided to put in the hours for the work that needed to be done, and ONLY those hours. I went from just over $1.00 per hour with constant headaches/stress and losing more games than winning, to $5.35 per hour with less headaches/stress, and winning more games. Still, not something I would recommend as a solution to why. The answer to why we do this has everything to do with providing a valuable service to young people who need good mentorship no matter how much we give, or get compensated for it. |
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Post by CanyonCoach on Sept 9, 2022 15:10:43 GMT -6
Another new one in this category...A kid was leaving practices in the middle after seeing the trainer. The trainer never said you should go home or sit out or even really treated him. No real symptoms other than he said something hurt. He was going out the back door and meeting a car on a fairly busy street so the coaches or players wouldn't see him. He was getting dropped off back at the parking lot for players just before practices ended so his guardian could pick him up. Finally figured it out because the car picking him up caused a fender bender on the busy street. Love kids!
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