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Post by spartan on May 13, 2022 17:27:23 GMT -6
What do you call coaches that just wing it, at practice and personnel wise. I heard it called grab bagging but basically they have no plan.
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Post by coachwoodall on May 13, 2022 17:35:47 GMT -6
What do you call coaches that just wing it, at practice and personnel wise. I heard it called grab bagging but basically they have no plan. guys you fire?  |
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Post by newt21 on May 13, 2022 17:38:50 GMT -6
I stole this from here but “slappys”
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Post by Defcord on May 14, 2022 3:59:31 GMT -6
That dude’s just a fan with a whistle
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Post by bobgoodman on May 14, 2022 10:06:56 GMT -6
Either "naturals" or "fools".
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Post by carookie on May 14, 2022 10:08:19 GMT -6
At some places, "Boss"
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2022 14:41:30 GMT -6
What do you call coaches that just wing it, at practice and personnel wise. I heard it called grab bagging but basically they have no plan. Bad coaches? |
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Post by bluedevil4 on May 15, 2022 15:07:26 GMT -6
"Our former HC."
I think we've scored more on offense in just our first three games of this season than we did in the 3 full seasons he was the HC for...combined. In fact, our defense scored more points than the offense in his second year.
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Post by tripsclosed on May 15, 2022 19:45:16 GMT -6
BSCs: Block somebody coaches
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Post by tog on May 15, 2022 20:57:38 GMT -6
I stole this from here but “slappys” slappys yes |
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Post by carookie on May 15, 2022 23:02:42 GMT -6
I will say there are some experienced coaches who know there stuff and can coach it well (as a position coach) who just wing it. Theyve done this long enough and they could do an acceptable job w/o a plan...just shooting from the hip. I wouldnt recommend a hc or coordinator do it though as that would be a struggle for the rest of the staff.
This is different from a “grab bag coach”, who is someone who has combined tactics and techniques from a lot of divergent systems, and mixes in too much (usually to a detriment of the team).
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Post by tog on May 16, 2022 5:43:30 GMT -6
I will say there are some experienced coaches who know there stuff and can coach it well (as a position coach) who just wing it. Theyve done this long enough and they could do an acceptable job w/o a plan...just shooting from the hip. I wouldnt recommend a hc or coordinator do it though as that would be a struggle for the rest of the staff. This is different from a “grab bag coach”, who is someone who has combined tactics and techniques from a lot of divergent systems, and mixes in too much (usually to a detriment of the team). at first I was like, yeah, then I was like,,, nope----those dudes are wasting practice time getting their drill set up because they are winging it hold on kids, I need these cones placed here, I need that blocking sled, I need this dummy....... |
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Post by coachd5085 on May 16, 2022 6:01:17 GMT -6
I will say there are some experienced coaches who know there stuff and can coach it well (as a position coach) who just wing it. Theyve done this long enough and they could do an acceptable job w/o a plan...just shooting from the hip. I wouldnt recommend a hc or coordinator do it though as that would be a struggle for the rest of the staff. This is different from a “grab bag coach”, who is someone who has combined tactics and techniques from a lot of divergent systems, and mixes in too much (usually to a detriment of the team). Define “just wing it” in this scenario? |
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Post by kcbazooka on May 16, 2022 9:59:56 GMT -6
Unfortunately, some are known as state finalists.
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Post by carookie on May 16, 2022 11:15:41 GMT -6
I will say there are some experienced coaches who know there stuff and can coach it well (as a position coach) who just wing it. Theyve done this long enough and they could do an acceptable job w/o a plan...just shooting from the hip. I wouldnt recommend a hc or coordinator do it though as that would be a struggle for the rest of the staff. This is different from a “grab bag coach”, who is someone who has combined tactics and techniques from a lot of divergent systems, and mixes in too much (usually to a detriment of the team). at first I was like, yeah, then I was like,,, nope----those dudes are wasting practice time getting their drill set up because they are winging it hold on kids, I need these cones placed here, I need that blocking sled, I need this dummy....... I imagine these guys don't use a lot of cones, or sleds (maybe just have shields ready). I agree, they probably waste time relative to a good coach, thats why I just referred to them as doing an "acceptable" job. Not trying to be pedantic, I imagine we are saying the same thing in any case, but these are guys who can do an average job without a plan written out or knowing exactly what they were going to do heading into the day. |
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Post by carookie on May 16, 2022 11:17:47 GMT -6
I will say there are some experienced coaches who know there stuff and can coach it well (as a position coach) who just wing it. Theyve done this long enough and they could do an acceptable job w/o a plan...just shooting from the hip. I wouldnt recommend a hc or coordinator do it though as that would be a struggle for the rest of the staff. This is different from a “grab bag coach”, who is someone who has combined tactics and techniques from a lot of divergent systems, and mixes in too much (usually to a detriment of the team). Define “just wing it” in this scenario? Coach who doesn't know precisely what drills, and when he wants to do them, he is going to do prior to the start of practice. BUt he has a deep enough repertoire and general knowledge that he has them do useful work throughout practice. |
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Post by s73 on May 16, 2022 12:10:42 GMT -6
Define “just wing it” in this scenario? Coach who doesn't know precisely what drills, and when he wants to do them, he is going to do prior to the start of practice. BUt he has a deep enough repertoire and general knowledge that he has them do useful work throughout practice. My thoughts on what you're saying here is these guys that know there EDD's and the kids are ready to go b/c they know what is expected daily of them? These guys might be semi wasteful of time however when a portion of each practcie is directed towards specificity of that weeks opponent? |
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Post by carookie on May 16, 2022 13:49:11 GMT -6
Coach who doesn't know precisely what drills, and when he wants to do them, he is going to do prior to the start of practice. BUt he has a deep enough repertoire and general knowledge that he has them do useful work throughout practice. My thoughts on what you're saying here is these guys that know there EDD's and the kids are ready to go b/c they know what is expected daily of them? These guys might be semi wasteful of time however when a portion of each practcie is directed towards specificity of that weeks opponent? Yeah pretty much. They arent gonna be great, but theyll accomplish as much as your median level hs coach |
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Post by coachd5085 on May 16, 2022 18:45:04 GMT -6
Define “just wing it” in this scenario? Coach who doesn't know precisely what drills, and when he wants to do them, he is going to do prior to the start of practice. BUt he has a deep enough repertoire and general knowledge that he has them do useful work throughout practice. Eh, I don't know if I would consider any coach who doesn't know exactly what drills he wants to do and how is going to do them useful. Most competent coaches are going to do the same things day one as they would the week of a playoff game. Planning that takes all of 45 seconds. |
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Post by hornetfan63 on May 19, 2022 10:19:51 GMT -6
Disorganized
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Post by carookie on May 19, 2022 10:48:24 GMT -6
Coach who doesn't know precisely what drills, and when he wants to do them, he is going to do prior to the start of practice. BUt he has a deep enough repertoire and general knowledge that he has them do useful work throughout practice. Eh, I don't know if I would consider any coach who doesn't know exactly what drills he wants to do and how is going to do them useful. Most competent coaches are going to do the same things day one as they would the week of a playoff game. Planning that takes all of 45 seconds. No, he knows how he is going to do them, he's done them a million times before. Though I strongly agree with the bolded portion of what you wrote, I don't think its really true. Most coaches change things up week to week, chasing the premise that they have to do specific drills and work for that specific opponent. I wish they didn't tough. |
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