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Post by option1 on Apr 1, 2022 8:28:58 GMT -6
Suggestions on practice organization for 30 kids and 2 coaches? TIA
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 1, 2022 8:50:09 GMT -6
Find some volunteers.
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 1, 2022 9:39:47 GMT -6
Suggestions on practice organization for 30 kids and 2 coaches? TIA Fundamentals - fundamentals- fundamentals! What you may lack in opportunity to teach individualized skills, try to make up in general fundamentals for all. More of a philosophy than a practice plan, I know but with the numbers given,it obviously requires some deviation from what is more common
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Post by blb on Apr 1, 2022 10:14:07 GMT -6
One coach responsible for offense including kicking game and scout team.
Other coach responsible for defense including kicking game and scout team.
During Individual:
For offense one coach takes Backs and Receivers (possible cross-training), other takes OL and TEs. Latter work on routes-catching during Specialties (Routes on Air) and 7-on-7.
For defense one coach takes Front 7, other takes DBs. LBers can go with DB coach for Open Field tackling and ball drills.
During Specialties Line coach gets more Individual time (blocking Inside plays, Pass Pro, Pass Rush-Draw/Screen-Stunts).
Have captains lead Warm-Up so coaches can get drills set up during that time.
Specialties (emphasize Passing and Kicking)
Warm-Up
Individual
Kicking Game
Group (Half line, Inside, 7-on-7, Formation Recognition-Review)
Team
Team (other side of ball)
Finish
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Post by blackknight on Apr 1, 2022 11:03:24 GMT -6
My very first year of coaching was as a frosh assistant on a two man staff. I coached OL and DL and our head coach had every one else
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Post by freezeoption on Apr 1, 2022 16:48:27 GMT -6
I've coached teams with no assistant up to 3 for 50 players. With a small staff make sure everyone is doing what they know best. O line better be the best. The other guy can take the rest. It would be nice to have a third for receivers but I've done all by myself also. I didn't have a choice. School only paid for me. I had 2 volunteers but they came when they could. Work on basics. Have a player that is a skill position and a line position that can lead drills if short a coach. My skill guys could go through all drills without me being there as well as my line. Planning is the most important part of practice.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2022 10:53:01 GMT -6
Keep it extremely simple here.
Have a coach for the front/OL and secondary/skill.
“Individual” periods become “group fundamental” periods. OL and TEs go one place, WR and backfield to another. Emphasis is in basic, bare-bones fundamentals for about a third to a half of practice since you’re already in “group.”
Then you go “team,” but you can use team periods to focus on specific plays by scripting practice. You don’t have to go a full 11-on-11 O vs D, here: this is a good time to work scrimmage-type drills like inside run drill, perimeter/7-on-7, a 2 group tackling circuit, special teams, etc.
You may wish to do an “offensive emphasis” day and a “defensive emphasis day” of practice to help focus everyone up.
With 30 to start, injuries and attrition are almost sure to wear your numbers down to the low-mid-20s, or even worse, before the year is done. You’ll need to cross train kids as much as possible and there may be times where you’re teaching a kid a new position in a week or two. Keep that in mind with how you do things schematically and in who you group where.
You can knock out a lot of reps in 2 hours with such low numbers if you’re focused and prepared with scripts. Try to keep the practices short and to the point so kids don’t get worn down mentally as well as physically.
As far as gameplan and game day stuff, divide that up however you two decide is best. With only 2 guys, there is plenty of work to go around.
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Post by veerman on Apr 6, 2022 9:15:35 GMT -6
I feel your pain. Last year we had 3 coaches that did everything from Jr High, JV, and Varsity (our school is 7-12). With 3 you can make it work, but we got wore down pretty bad at times doing every level. It would be way harder with just two when it comes to practice. One of your positions is going to get the shaft. Ex: We ran Veer last year. If we only had two coaches, one would take OL/TE and the other would take QBs/Backs/Wrs the main focus would be on the mesh with backs, while Wr worked on blocking. But the focus would not be what it should be with Wr. My suggestion is, try to get the majority of your individualized coaching done right now in off-season. Bring groups in on separate days and teach them now what you need them to know and get a bunch of reps in now. That way when your doing full practice the positions already know what they should be doing. Film EVERYTHING as well. That way you can give them feedback in HUDL and that can be your correction time during individual. Good Luck.
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Post by macdiiddy on Apr 6, 2022 18:56:46 GMT -6
Even with just 30 kids I would think you need one more body. Defensively you have the line, backers and secondary.
Offensively have the line, WR's and backfield. It is still April, I would find someone you can coach up into being a coach.
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Post by coachscdub on Apr 6, 2022 19:52:47 GMT -6
Done it before, can be tough obviously.
What we did was break things into "cores"
Front/Secondary
For Defense it was, I take the DL/LB's you take the CB/SAF's
For Offense it was, I take the OL/TE/RB's you take the QB/WR's
It's not that hard to do, but certain schemes will make your life easier.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2022 9:34:30 GMT -6
Even with just 30 kids I would think you need one more body. Defensively you have the line, backers and secondary. Offensively have the line, WR's and backfield. It is still April, I would find someone you can coach up into being a coach. It is hard to make this work and it’s not what you’d ever want, but sometimes you might not get another coach who is competent or even willing to do as he’s told. In cases like that, it’s still better to just put the kids with coaches who can give them some useful instruction rather than sticking your WRs or a whole defensive position group with some slappy who’s just going to make them regress or insert his ego into things in counterproductive ways. Offensively, it can help here if you go old school and run something that doesn’t need much from the WRs, like a DW, SW, or Wing-T offense. Defensively, 7 on 7 won’t help an offense like that much but it can be a good opportunity to concentrate on coaching up the DBs and LBs. A situation like this is one where you probably won’t be able to run a conventional offense or defense due to the lack of coaches. Look at running a simple mirror defense of some kind that’s 100% man coverage or close to it, which makes it simple to coach and simple on newbs who just got moved to LB or DB to play. The key to making a defense like that work is really working on that technique with your coverage guys so they know how to play it physically and in a way that allows them to handle guys who are faster. Since it’s one type of coverage, 2 coaches can still find time to do that. This means you better box with your DEs or keep a LB or two out of the coverage scheme so they can do it. Another one might be to rotate your Indy time on defense. One day the LBs and DL work together on inside run drill stuff like block destruction while DBs get Indy time to focus on man techniques. On Day 2 the DBs and LBs do some perimeter/pass skelly stuff while the DL work Indy. Then to give the LBs some Indy time you have the DBs and DL do some tackling circuit stuff on Day 3 while the LBs work on their stuff. This is unlikely to lead to championship caliber defense or offense, but it will give you a chance at being competitive against teams with equal or lesser talent and maybe take a win here and there from a more talented opponent who isn’t coached or executing well that night.
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Post by spartan on Apr 15, 2022 21:03:35 GMT -6
Coach 1 Offensive back field and Recievers Coach 2 online and blocking
Defense Caoch 1 secondary Coach 2 Defensive front and tackling.
When they ain't blocking they they working on mesh cacthinching skelly
When they ain't tackling they working on coverage.
Most important. Run Split back veer and 4-4 cover 3
Sells it self,.
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Post by silkyice on Apr 16, 2022 10:30:32 GMT -6
Film group and team periods and review and show kids what they have to change.
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Post by kcbazooka on Apr 16, 2022 10:44:47 GMT -6
Enjoy the experience! My first two years as a head coach we were in this situation. A plus is that you only have one other coach you have to work with. I’ve been on staffs with nine assistants and having additional coaches didn’t guarantee a better product. Not a lot of back biting or office politics when there’s only two of you!
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Post by CanyonCoach on Apr 16, 2022 22:06:51 GMT -6
We had 3 coaches when I was in HS and there were 40-50 kids on the team.
HC- was OC/DC and handled the QB/RB/WR position and LB/DB coach Assistant 1 OL/DL coach Assistant 2 volunteer- took the group he was most comfortable with- we had 3 different guys in 4 years.
The HC was very organized, detailed play book for the changing coaches. Met with them numerous times.
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Post by CoachDP on Apr 17, 2022 7:18:36 GMT -6
Suggestions on practice organization for 30 kids and 2 coaches? TIA We've done this. Had 39 rostered and 2 coaches. It helps if you already know your schemes/drills/fundies inside and out so that you aren't overwhelmed. I coached our o-line and served as the header. My AC coached the Backs. When I instructed the o-line, I kept the d-line present in our teaching so we could apply man-on-man, 3-on-3, half-line and o-line vs. d-line scrimmage. D-Line did some bag holding but were always allowed/encouraged to use the bags against the o-line in a physical manner. Our offensive Backs also played defense, so regardless of the drill they were all kept busy. Special Teams used everyone, as did team blocking and tackling drills. 2/39 wasn't a favorable ratio but we had a very successful season. What helped us the most was our scheme. We ran Double Wing, so our defense wasn't on the field very long as our possessions were 8-minute drives by design. This allowed us to have the #1 defense in the conference (11.7 points allowed).
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Post by freezeoption on Apr 18, 2022 9:09:02 GMT -6
blockandtackle is a positive person. Run what you feel comfortable. There have been 11 man teams here that have one state with as little as 15 players. It's all about game planning and putting your guys where they can perform the best. Good luck to you.
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Post by Coach Bennett on Apr 26, 2022 13:12:36 GMT -6
Have you considered staggering practice times?
Group A starts, Group B joins Group A, finish with Group B.
More time on the job for you but more quality coaching for the kids.
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