coachcrews
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HS Coach in VA, spent some time coaching college too. Love to study whatever film I can get
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Post by coachcrews on Mar 25, 2022 8:03:27 GMT -6
Have had some parents reach out to me about what camps they should be sending their kid to this summer. My thought has always been that they should limit to 3-4 max. 1-2 FBS, a showcase, and maybe an FCS.
What are yalls thoughts?
Also, been getting some questions about specific camps - how do you guys go about finding out if they are legit camps or just money grab operations? For example, Jenkins Elite has reached out to one of my guys. I've never heard of it, and obviously the website looks fine, but how can you really tell?
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Post by larrymoe on Mar 25, 2022 8:41:05 GMT -6
Personally, I think 90% of camps are worthless moneymaking/recruiting tools. Unless a kid is a potential D1 kid, they're pretty much a waste of time and money. And if they are one of those kids, they'll be invited personally to them.
I would say 100%, but I did have some kids get good stuff from the Bishop-Dullaghan and Midwest Linemen's camps.
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Post by jstoss24 on Mar 25, 2022 8:44:23 GMT -6
It depends on where you're located a little bit because some areas are limited in the number of camps nearby. It looks like you're in VA, so I'll base it on that.
If the kid is looking for offers still, he should absolutely not go to a UVA, VT, JMU, or even a William & Mary camp. Individual school camps are held to make money, not to recruit. Notice that they're always run through LLCs under the Head Coach's name. They have to pay the school to use the facilities and then the rest of the money is split among the low-paid assistants and GAs. That doesn't mean it's impossible to get an offer from one of those camps, but it's very rare at the higher levels. A camp at E&H or W&L would be way more likely to earn a kid an offer, but again, the #1 priority of those is to get an additional check for the coaches. Our kids always want to go to the UNC/Duke/NC State camps because they think it will make them P5 guys, but really they're just paying $50, $75, $100 for a t-shirt and measurements/times that we could have done at the high school.
Showcases are awesome, lots of eyes on the kid from lots of different places. While they are still cash grabs for somebody, the more different schools at a camp, the more likely a kid will get noticed by somebody who will want them. There are mega camps all over the place. Kennesaw State has the Who's Hungry Mega Camp in June with 38 colleges from FBS, FCS, D2, D3, and NAIA. My alma mater used to host the Best of the Midwest Camp that had over 200 college coaches in attendance. I'm sure there are some mega camps in the DMV area somewhere. Those are the camps that are worth the $75+.
Between camp fees, travel, hotels, and food, camps are expensive. That's why I recommend the showcases because it's essentially multiple camps for the price of one. Now if you have a kid who is already being contacted by a P5, by all means, have him go to their camp. But if Johnny who is 5'9" 140 pounds and runs a 5.4 40 thinks he can become an ACC guy from going to the UVA camp, you're doing him a disservice by recommending that he go to that. I would try to make a list of Mega Camps and D2/D3 camps near you that you make available to all your guys and make it a case by case basis on recommendations for your guys with D1 potential.
As far as the camps that aren't affiliated with schools, I would be very cautious of those unless you know the name. Jenkins Elite is legit, but it is invite-only and as far as I can tell, the camp is in Colorado. For your specialists, Kornblue and Kohl's are almost a necessity to get recruited at this point.
The last thing I'll say, and it's slightly off-topic but in a similar vein, is to really be careful about the "All-America games" that pop up every year. Outside of the Army All-America game and the Polynesian Bowl, most of them are expensive vacations with football practice instead of relaxation. I can't control what my players want to do, but I will strongly discourage them from wasting their money on the "Hawaii Tiki Bowl" which is attended by about 5 college coaches.
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Post by bluboy on Mar 25, 2022 9:55:58 GMT -6
"...Unless a kid is a potential D1 kid, they're pretty much a waste of time and money. And if they are one of those kids, they'll be invited personally to them."
I can't agree more (especially with frosh and sophs). A loooong time ago we had a kid invited to a D1 college camp (he was a 6'3'' 240-LB/OL); a bunch of our kids decided to go with him to that camp. The "dude" was coached by the college staff; the other guys were coached by high school coaches who didn't know if a football was inflated or stuffed with cotton. Needless to say, the non-dudes were very disappointed.
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Post by carookie on Mar 25, 2022 11:07:14 GMT -6
I'm gonna disagree a bit with those who say camps are worthless save for D1 kids. I've been at schools that hosted camps, I've worked a few, and I've seen a number of kids all but get offered (still had to check grades, and records) right on the spot. I'm talking both big schools and smaller ones (non-D1).
Yeah, a number of camps are just money making scams, but a good amount are chances for kids to go out and show themselves in person- especially if they have coaches who don't advocate for them via film or play in a league with lesser competition.
Think about how many emails and phone calls you get a week from some coach at a small school you've never heard of, just begging for anyone with a pulse. These are the same schools who send coaches to work camps in the hopes of finding a few more players.
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Post by coachcb on Mar 25, 2022 11:32:15 GMT -6
Personally, I think 90% of camps are worthless moneymaking/recruiting tools. Unless a kid is a potential D1 kid, they're pretty much a waste of time and money. And if they are one of those kids, they'll be invited personally to them. I would say 100%, but I did have some kids get good stuff from the Bishop-Dullaghan and Midwest Linemen's camps.
Although I agree 100%, I did a placates parents a little when dealing with this situation:
Parent: "Where can I send Johnny to get noticed?"
Me: "University of ____ and ______ State University both have good camps. Bear in mind that we're going to ____ College's team camp in July and he needs to attend that as well. It won't look good to recruiters if he skips a team camp and attends individual camps on his own."
And, on several occasions, I told college recruiters that Lil Billy or Johnny attended the Seahawks Supa-Star camp but not ____ College team camp with with us.
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Post by jstoss24 on Mar 25, 2022 11:32:28 GMT -6
I'm gonna disagree a bit with those who say camps are worthless save for D1 kids. I've been at schools that hosted camps, I've worked a few, and I've seen a number of kids all but get offered (still had to check grades, and records) right on the spot. I'm talking both big schools and smaller ones (non-D1). Yeah, a number of camps are just money making scams, but a good amount are chances for kids to go out and show themselves in person- especially if they have coaches who don't advocate for them via film or play in a league with lesser competition. Think about how many emails and phone calls you get a week from some coach at a small school you've never heard of, just begging for anyone with a pulse. These are the same schools who send coaches to work camps in the hopes of finding a few more players. There is value to camps. I'm not saying there isn't. It's just not worth paying $75 for the chance that a small college coach is working there. If that's what you're going for, you're better off going to a small college camp. I've worked mega camps and individual camps at D2 and D3 schools and you're right, guys do get offered at those. You can also get offered by those same coaches without spending all that money. Like you said, those coaches are trying to get enough warm bodies to fill a roster. I was one of those coaches. I coached at a D3 school that had 25 guys on the roster when we got there. We weren't going to P5 camps to recruit, we were going to showcases and going to high schools to recruit. The only reason we went to the P5 camps was to make a few bucks and make connections with coaches to try to climb the ladder. |
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Post by coachwoodall on Mar 25, 2022 14:48:37 GMT -6
Recently spent time at a P5 school with a recent national championship; sitting in on meetings when it came time for the recruiting coordinator and the coaches, they had 3 groups of recruits: offer, camp, and watch/wait.
Offer- legit dude
Camp- have to see him in camp first before they would offer
Watch- on the edge of camp
Basically they have to have the director of recruiting, area recruiting coach, and that position coach ALL agree to offer before they would even consider a kid. Again that is why they recruit/play at the level they do.
I've worked the big school camps as a HS coach, and yeah it's basically t-shirt and bragging rights to "get a letter" from the HBC that says "he liked you in camp" and "will be watching your development".... basically the only time you see the HBC at the camp is when the kids get dropped off by mom and dad alumni, maybe walking around while the kids eat popsicles one evening, and to take a picture/get picked up by mom and dad alumni.
If a a legit D1 kid is making the rounds comes by for a single day/half day of 'camp', the college AC who showed you the drills and and had been texting/talking to his real prospects the rest of the time will leave you HS coach to run things and take the prospect off to the side to work him out solo. I saw LOTS of kids spend 1-2 hours at 'camp'.... Like mentioned before, if they WANT you to come to camp, your area recruiter will personally call you. Mass emails and even bulk rate postage is easy.
Smaller schools, camps not only make the AC's living money, but is how they get/fill out their roster. For average fringe player, the prospect camps that have tons of coaches attending is where they can make some hay.
Not to say a kid can't make some hay by going to camp, but if they are spending $$$$$ and spending more time at camps in the summer than working out; then they not only aren't getting better, they are hurting themselves and the team.
It is what it is...
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Post by coachcb on Mar 25, 2022 15:29:31 GMT -6
Recently spent time at a P5 school with a recent national championship; sitting in on meetings when it came time for the recruiting coordinator and the coaches, they had 3 groups of recruits: offer, camp, and watch/wait. Offer- legit dude Camp- have to see him in camp first before they would offer Watch- on the edge of camp Basically they have to have the director of recruiting, area recruiting coach, and that position coach ALL agree to offer before they would even consider a kid. Again that is why they recruit/play at the level they do. I've worked the big school camps as a HS coach, and yeah it's basically t-shirt and bragging rights to "get a letter" from the HBC that says "he liked you in camp" and "will be watching your development".... basically the only time you see the HBC at the camp is when the kids get dropped off by mom and dad alumni, maybe walking around while the kids eat popsicles one evening, and to take a picture/get picked up by mom and dad alumni. If a a legit D1 kid is making the rounds comes by for a single day/half day of 'camp', the college AC who showed you the drills and and had been texting/talking to his real prospects the rest of the time will leave you HS coach to run things and take the prospect off to the side to work him out solo. I saw LOTS of kids spend 1-2 hours at 'camp'.... Like mentioned before, if they WANT you to come to camp, your area recruiter will personally call you. Mass emails and even bulk rate postage is easy. Smaller schools, camps not only make the AC's living money, but is how they get/fill out their roster. For average fringe player, the prospect camps that have tons of coaches attending is where they can make some hay. Not to say a kid can't make some hay by going to camp, but if they are spending $$$$$ and spending more time at camps in the summer than working out; then they not only aren't getting better, they are hurting themselves and the team. It is what it is...
The issue that I ran into was essentially delusions of grandeur... The player was potentially good enough to play NAIA, D2 or D3 but they (and their parents) were convinced they were FCS/FBS material. So, telling them that Blue Mountain State's camp was the place to be went in one ear and out the other.
Don't get me wrong, we've had plenty of kids recruited out of those camps over those years. But, those weren't the kid's whose parents were asking about camps.
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Post by fantom on Mar 25, 2022 20:33:17 GMT -6
Recently spent time at a P5 school with a recent national championship; sitting in on meetings when it came time for the recruiting coordinator and the coaches, they had 3 groups of recruits: offer, camp, and watch/wait. Offer- legit dude Camp- have to see him in camp first before they would offer Watch- on the edge of camp Basically they have to have the director of recruiting, area recruiting coach, and that position coach ALL agree to offer before they would even consider a kid. Again that is why they recruit/play at the level they do. I've worked the big school camps as a HS coach, and yeah it's basically t-shirt and bragging rights to "get a letter" from the HBC that says "he liked you in camp" and "will be watching your development".... basically the only time you see the HBC at the camp is when the kids get dropped off by mom and dad alumni, maybe walking around while the kids eat popsicles one evening, and to take a picture/get picked up by mom and dad alumni. If a a legit D1 kid is making the rounds comes by for a single day/half day of 'camp', the college AC who showed you the drills and and had been texting/talking to his real prospects the rest of the time will leave you HS coach to run things and take the prospect off to the side to work him out solo. I saw LOTS of kids spend 1-2 hours at 'camp'.... Like mentioned before, if they WANT you to come to camp, your area recruiter will personally call you. Mass emails and even bulk rate postage is easy. Smaller schools, camps not only make the AC's living money, but is how they get/fill out their roster. For average fringe player, the prospect camps that have tons of coaches attending is where they can make some hay. Not to say a kid can't make some hay by going to camp, but if they are spending $$$$$ and spending more time at camps in the summer than working out; then they not only aren't getting better, they are hurting themselves and the team. It is what it is...
The issue that I ran into was essentially delusions of grandeur... The player was potentially good enough to play NAIA, D2 or D3 but they (and their parents) were convinced they were FCS/FBS material. So, telling them that Blue Mountain State's camp was the place to be went in one ear and out the other.
Don't get me wrong, we've had plenty of kids recruited out of those camps over those years. But, those weren't the kid's whose parents were asking about camps.
Sometimes the value is to you, the coach, in showing Mom, Dad, and Junior what legit 1A prospects look like. |
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Post by realdawg on Mar 25, 2022 21:30:54 GMT -6
I’m beginning to believe they are a necessary evil. I agree some are money grabs. However, if a schools has shown some legit interest in you, but hasn’t offered you almost need to go to that schools camp AND perform well. The flip side of that coin is if you go and don’t perform well then they will write you off.
My general advice to kids is to not spend too much money on them. But if they are interested in doing the camp thing….do 3. Choose one local camp. One dream school camp. And one mega camp. Would also advise anyone who has had some legit interest from a school but hasn’t been offered that they should attend that schools camp. But need to perform!
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Post by jlenwood on Mar 27, 2022 19:02:35 GMT -6
Honestly, I think this line of thought is one of the problems with HS football, or any HS sport these days. Not everyone is gonna get a ride, and yet every parent and all kids think they are going to play college ball for free.
Here is my suggestion for the 98% who are not D1 guys:
-Freshman year pick a couple of local or as local as you can get camps, and go just to learn skills. Nothing else! Leave the thought of getting a full ride at home.
-Soph/Jr and Sr year are the same. Go to a large school camp, again with the focus on skill acquisition and also maybe now a particular camp for your position ie:QB or WR or lineman etc.
If the player is good enough to get noticed, it will happen. If not, they will have the fun of the experience and also they will pick up needed skills. Also, they will be exposed early on to exactly what a freak athlete is. I remember I had a kid one year as a DL. He was a very good small school/small league dude with a great upside. Went to a MAC D1 camp and he kind of held his own, but was not even in the ballpark when it came to dudes that were actively being recruited by the school
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Post by fantom on Mar 28, 2022 20:06:35 GMT -6
Honestly, I think this line of thought is one of the problems with HS football, or any HS sport these days. Not everyone is gonna get a ride, and yet every parent and all kids think they are going to play college ball for free. Here is my suggestion for the 98% who are not D1 guys: -Freshman year pick a couple of local or as local as you can get camps, and go just to learn skills. Nothing else! Leave the thought of getting a full ride at home. -Soph/Jr and Sr year are the same. Go to a large school camp, again with the focus on skill acquisition and also maybe now a particular camp for your position ie:QB or WR or lineman etc. If the player is good enough to get noticed, it will happen. If not, they will have the fun of the experience and also they will pick up needed skills. Also, they will be exposed early on to exactly what a freak athlete is. I remember I had a kid one year as a DL. He was a very good small school/small league dude with a great upside. Went to a MAC D1 camp and he kind of held his own, but was not even in the ballpark when it came to dudes that were actively being recruited by the school For the vast majority of kids at a big school's camp it's Fantasy Camp. Most know that and there's nothing wrong with that. |
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Post by CanyonCoach on Mar 29, 2022 8:06:17 GMT -6
Where you are matters:
1. Our kids want to go to camps.
2. None of our kids are FBS recruits
3. 1 or 2 might be PWO at FCS schools
4. most of our kids are NAIA/DII kids
NDSU puts on a great camp with all college coaches at every spot- they get to see the kids they are recruiting. The DII and NAIA schools get to recruit kids. There are between 15-25 other schools working the camp, from ND, SD, Minn, Neb. and Iowa.
This is the best recruiting and coaching camp that our kids attend. It is 3 days long and they get the measurables out of the way the first 1/2 day. After that it is skills development and competition.
Kids stay in the dorms and eat in the school cafeteria and spend tons of time together. We take a bus of 15-20 kids each year.
Other camps within 300 miles are small schools that get between 30-50 kids attending...or showcases that just do measurables and 30 minutes of drills and send you an evaluation. Showcases in our area are $175 for a 4 hour session.
in comparison NDSU is $325 for 3 full days.
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Post by spreadattack on Mar 31, 2022 8:50:46 GMT -6
Anyone have or seen good experiences with any particular camps, purely from a player development point of view?
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Post by irishdog on Mar 31, 2022 9:46:17 GMT -6
Depends on where you coach, what you as the HC require, and what your state association allows. Some states only permit athletes to participate in non-contact camps. Others do. Some states are located in areas where camps aren't held so parent availability for transportation can be a concern. Finally, a number of HC's in various states require their athletes to sign-up and participate in their own "team camp" in June or July, which can conflict with dates of outside camps. I've worked in private mega type camps and never recommended them to my athletes.
I've worked mostly in small schools so the occasions I've had DI guys has been few and far in between. When I have I've directed them to find out if the schools they are interested in offered a camp. If the schools did, but held their camps on the same dates I would encourage the athlete to contact the college staff to see if it would be possible to allow him to attend for one or two days. I had a QB who attended four camps in six days. He eventually signed with a school that wasn't even on his radar. Also, he didn't miss our own team camp.
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Post by coachcb on Mar 31, 2022 10:36:06 GMT -6
Anyone have or seen good experiences with any particular camps, purely from a player development point of view?
Georgia Southern had an EXCELLENT Flexbone camp when PJ was there. Obviously this was many years ago but I've been to one that was better at developing players within that system. Each player was filmed through the drills and the coaches went over that film with each kid between sessions. Impressive given that they were using VHS recorders to get the job done (again, a LONG time ago).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2022 11:11:28 GMT -6
Personally, I think 90% of camps are worthless moneymaking/recruiting tools. Unless a kid is a potential D1 kid, they're pretty much a waste of time and money. And if they are one of those kids, they'll be invited personally to them. I would say 100%, but I did have some kids get good stuff from the Bishop-Dullaghan and Midwest Linemen's camps. I wouldn’t go that far. For most kids, they can be a waste of time, but it’s easy for a lot of potential D1 kids to slip through the cracks, especially if they haven’t already been in the camp system to get some eyes on them and they come from some backwater area. I have a younger cousin who ran a legit 4.3, was his state’s POY with like a 15 ypc rushing average, returned 70% of his kicks and punts for TDs, and no one even bothered to recruit him because he never went to a camp and no college coaches even knew he existed. I’m always a little surprised by kids, especially freshmen and sophomores, who go to those camps and walk out with “offers” and star ratings based on their raw ability without actually being very good or productive on the field yet. Those kids would have never even gotten an invite because nobody knew who the hell they were before they showed up. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2022 11:20:28 GMT -6
Anyone have or seen good experiences with any particular camps, purely from a player development point of view? Every single QB I’ve ever coached or even talked to who went to a DSQA camp came back considerably better as a passer than he was before. |
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Post by olliebaba14 on Mar 31, 2022 18:06:29 GMT -6
Just a quick question on how many kids you have each year play in college.
At my school I’d wager we have probably 1 division 1 (MAC) player, and anywhere from 3-5 D2 NAIA D3 kids. I’d say that’s above average. The powerhouse Catholic academies will often have kids get offered solely because they go there with no stats. It’s quite a different world from school to school
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Post by silkyice on Mar 31, 2022 19:44:49 GMT -6
Anyone have or seen good experiences with any particular camps, purely from a player development point of view? Bama camp is legit and works the kids hard. |
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Post by thomasmagnum on Apr 1, 2022 14:37:30 GMT -6
Not sure on the actual name of the camp but Kevin Mawae puts on an OL/DL camp every summer at Nicholls State University in Thibodeaux, LA. Each lineman we've had attend came back with better footwork, hand placement and understanding of the position
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Post by jlenwood on Apr 1, 2022 19:08:47 GMT -6
Anyone have or seen good experiences with any particular camps, purely from a player development point of view? I had several players go to the Jeff Trickey QB/WR camps years ago and they were terrific. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 1, 2022 20:28:06 GMT -6
Personally, I think 90% of camps are worthless moneymaking/recruiting tools. Unless a kid is a potential D1 kid, they're pretty much a waste of time and money. And if they are one of those kids, they'll be invited personally to them. I would say 100%, but I did have some kids get good stuff from the Bishop-Dullaghan and Midwest Linemen's camps. I wouldn’t go that far. For most kids, they can be a waste of time, but it’s easy for a lot of potential D1 kids to slip through the cracks, especially if they haven’t already been in the camp system to get some eyes on them and they come from some backwater area. I have a younger cousin who ran a legit 4.3, was his state’s POY with like a 15 ypc rushing average, returned 70% of his kicks and punts for TDs, and no one even bothered to recruit him because he never went to a camp and no college coaches even knew he existed. I’m always a little surprised by kids, especially freshmen and sophomores, who go to those camps and walk out with “offers” and star ratings based on their raw ability without actually being very good or productive on the field yet. Those kids would have never even gotten an invite because nobody knew who the hell they were before they showed up. Having read and agreed with 100s of your posts here, and appreciated how well informed, measured and well thought out your posts are, I have to say I am absolutely shocked to see you post the part I highlighted. This was likely the fastest combine in history, and only 31 participants in this years NFL combine ran a sub 4.40 forty (half of those being 4.38 or 4.39.) Only 11 in 2020. Only 14 in 2019. Only 12 in 2018. As far as the recruiting efforts, while it probably doesn't matter to the vast majority, obviously it can't really hurt those that aren't being recruited. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 1, 2022 20:30:31 GMT -6
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 1, 2022 20:39:13 GMT -6
Not sure on the actual name of the camp but Kevin Mawae puts on an OL/DL camp every summer at Nicholls State University in Thibodeaux, LA. Each lineman we've had attend came back with better footwork, hand placement and understanding of the position I don't think your facts are completely accurate here. There is an OLine / Dline camp- Now called the Louisiana Line Camp held at Nicholls annually. Mawae may have worked it but he is not principally involved in the camp and it has been around for a long time. The link for the camp is in a post above. |
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Post by bluedevil4 on Apr 2, 2022 5:47:47 GMT -6
"...Unless a kid is a potential D1 kid, they're pretty much a waste of time and money. And if they are one of those kids, they'll be invited personally to them." I can't agree more (especially with frosh and sophs). A loooong time ago we had a kid invited to a D1 college camp (he was a 6'3'' 240-LB/OL); a bunch of our kids decided to go with him to that camp. The "dude" was coached by the college staff; the other guys were coached by high school coaches who didn't know if a football was inflated or stuffed with cotton. Needless to say, the non-dudes were very disappointed. Just chirping with everyone else OP. Unless a kid has a chance at the next level, it's probably not worth their time. Those camps are more about making money and finding recruits than it is coaching/developing. Make your own camps...for free, or insanely dirt cheap, to improve access and extra coaching to those that may not be able to afford those expensive ones. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2022 8:09:10 GMT -6
I wouldn’t go that far. For most kids, they can be a waste of time, but it’s easy for a lot of potential D1 kids to slip through the cracks, especially if they haven’t already been in the camp system to get some eyes on them and they come from some backwater area. I have a younger cousin who ran a legit 4.3, was his state’s POY with like a 15 ypc rushing average, returned 70% of his kicks and punts for TDs, and no one even bothered to recruit him because he never went to a camp and no college coaches even knew he existed. I’m always a little surprised by kids, especially freshmen and sophomores, who go to those camps and walk out with “offers” and star ratings based on their raw ability without actually being very good or productive on the field yet. Those kids would have never even gotten an invite because nobody knew who the hell they were before they showed up. Having read and agreed with 100s of your posts here, and appreciated how well informed, measured and well thought out your posts are, I have to say I am absolutely shocked to see you post the part I highlighted. This was likely the fastest combine in history, and only 31 participants in this years NFL combine ran a sub 4.40 forty (half of those being 4.38 or 4.39.) Only 11 in 2020. Only 14 in 2019. Only 12 in 2018. As far as the recruiting efforts, while it probably doesn't matter to the vast majority, obviously it can't really hurt those that aren't being recruited. It was “legit” in the sense that he was timed at sub 4.40 on multiple occasions for multiple people, including at the one speed camp he attended, which was on turf. The kid was 4 year all state in soccer and made everyone else look like they were moving in slow motion when he was on the field in both sports (and basketball, too) , so I’m inclined to believe that if it wasn’t a true laser timed 4.3, he was at least pretty close. Either way, despite being really fast, productive, and getting tons of accolades (two time All-State in his only 2 years of HS football including offensive POY for his classification as a senior), he wasn’t recruited at all because he never went through the camp system and college coaches simply didn’t know about him. Eventually, he was invited to walk-on at a local FCS program (a pretty good one) after the coaches found out he’d already enrolled there, but he didn’t like a lot about the culture of college football there and quit playing before the season. He did not go on to become an NFL player and never really wanted to, but I have seen far lesser athletes get free rides at FBS schools simply because they impressed somebody at a camp.. |
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Post by bulldogsdc on Apr 4, 2022 6:49:32 GMT -6
I know it has been said, but I need to make it about me..... I think the best things college camps offer is a reality check for players and families.
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Post by veerman on Apr 4, 2022 10:12:14 GMT -6
Anyone have or seen good experiences with any particular camps, purely from a player development point of view?
Georgia Southern had an EXCELLENT Flexbone camp when PJ was there. Obviously this was many years ago but I've been to one that was better at developing players within that system. Each player was filmed through the drills and the coaches went over that film with each kid between sessions. Impressive given that they were using VHS recorders to get the job done (again, a LONG time ago).
Was the same way when he was at GT as well. I took a couple players there a few of the years and they got tons of work at getting better with the option. |
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