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Post by larrymoe on Jun 25, 2021 15:17:20 GMT -6
Every school and "culture" has kids that aren't happy about something and get pissy and bitch on social media. Heck, in our area alone Maroa Forsyth and SHG has had kids bitch and eventually move because they weren't happy about something. That is in no way an indication of those school's "culture". Team captains and starters? I find that really hard to believe at those two schools you used as examples. Maroa had 3 kids all transfer the same spring a couple years ago. They were all multiple year starters, all conference/County and even all state and probably would have been captains going into their Sr years. I believe all 3 kids all started at their new schools.
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Post by 19delta on Jun 25, 2021 16:17:36 GMT -6
Team captains and starters? I find that really hard to believe at those two schools you used as examples. Maroa had 3 kids all transfer the same spring a couple years ago. They were all multiple year starters, all conference/County and even all state and probably would have been captains going into their Sr years. I believe all 3 kids all started at their new schools. Did they record and then post social media videos of themselves saying "F Football" on the way out?
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Post by newhope on Jun 28, 2021 15:24:47 GMT -6
I am hesitant to bring this to the discussion, as I know how some twist these things into political argument type things, but I feel it is a fair discussion to have. Today, the supreme court ruled in favor of Brandi Levy. Levy, a teenager who posted a profanity laced snapchat post against her high school cheer team after failing to make varsity, was suspended from her JV team after the post. Her parents sued the school and the supreme court ruled in her favor- basically stating it didnt meet the Tinker standard for being disruptive to the learning environment. Now, maybe I missed something here, but I was always led to believe that extra curriculars were given a different standard in leeway to suspending participants. Regardless, if a player of yours did something similar, posted publicly online "F@#* (your school), and F@#* (the football team)" would you suspend or reprimand them? I believe this very much disrupts the team, and would lead to conflicts in the locker room. Thoughts? Because the court laid down no hard rule here, nobody knows. They were fairly specific in saying their ruling only applied to the particulars of this case and was not intended to set precedent. Make your rules. Stand by them. Make them go through the legal process if they don't follow them. (Make sure the school will support you---and the upshot of this ruling is that the school may NOT because they're scared)
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Post by coachd5085 on Jun 28, 2021 15:44:39 GMT -6
I am hesitant to bring this to the discussion, as I know how some twist these things into political argument type things, but I feel it is a fair discussion to have. Today, the supreme court ruled in favor of Brandi Levy. Levy, a teenager who posted a profanity laced snapchat post against her high school cheer team after failing to make varsity, was suspended from her JV team after the post. Her parents sued the school and the supreme court ruled in her favor- basically stating it didnt meet the Tinker standard for being disruptive to the learning environment. Now, maybe I missed something here, but I was always led to believe that extra curriculars were given a different standard in leeway to suspending participants. Regardless, if a player of yours did something similar, posted publicly online "F@#* (your school), and F@#* (the football team)" would you suspend or reprimand them? I believe this very much disrupts the team, and would lead to conflicts in the locker room. Thoughts? Because the court laid down no hard rule here, nobody knows. They were fairly specific in saying their ruling only applied to the particulars of this case and was not intended to set precedent. Make your rules. Stand by them. Make them go through the legal process if they don't follow them. ( Make sure the school will support you---and the upshot of this ruling is that the school may NOT because they're scared)That is my biggest concern. That districts and admin will be even more wary of threats than before and parents (more likely organizations) will be more emboldened by the ruling to scream "lawyer" at their first inconvenience.
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Post by larrymoe on Jun 28, 2021 15:49:01 GMT -6
I think we all know the solution to this issue was to just make her eat a large pizza.
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Post by 19delta on Jun 28, 2021 16:05:08 GMT -6
I think we all know the solution to this issue was to just make her eat a large pizza. Ha! That's great! 🤣
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Post by 19delta on Jun 28, 2021 16:08:19 GMT -6
I am hesitant to bring this to the discussion, as I know how some twist these things into political argument type things, but I feel it is a fair discussion to have. Today, the supreme court ruled in favor of Brandi Levy. Levy, a teenager who posted a profanity laced snapchat post against her high school cheer team after failing to make varsity, was suspended from her JV team after the post. Her parents sued the school and the supreme court ruled in her favor- basically stating it didnt meet the Tinker standard for being disruptive to the learning environment. Now, maybe I missed something here, but I was always led to believe that extra curriculars were given a different standard in leeway to suspending participants. Regardless, if a player of yours did something similar, posted publicly online "F@#* (your school), and F@#* (the football team)" would you suspend or reprimand them? I believe this very much disrupts the team, and would lead to conflicts in the locker room. Thoughts? Because the court laid down no hard rule here, nobody knows. They were fairly specific in saying their ruling only applied to the particulars of this case and was not intended to set precedent. Make your rules. Stand by them. Make them go through the legal process if they don't follow them. (Make sure the school will support you---and the upshot of this ruling is that the school may NOT because they're scared) I think the lesson to school boards and district administrators is much more simple than that: Don't use a flamethrower to swat a mosquito.
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