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Post by CS on Apr 19, 2021 8:53:02 GMT -6
We were asked to give 3 qualities we would want in our new superintendent. What would be on your wish list? Aside from 1) Loves Football, 2) Really loves football, and 3) Cares about nothing but football. I am at a loss
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Post by CoachSP on Apr 19, 2021 9:31:58 GMT -6
If I were a HFC, This is the quality I'd want in a principal. If I were a principal, this is the quality I'd want in a Super:
Supports Athletics, but doesn't meddle. Stays in his/her own lane (education) and leaves the sports up to the sports people. Gets involved only when necessary.
Quick example: We had a HC get let go from his coaching duties, and the principal was able to get the district leadership to reassign him to another school so that our school could open up his spot to recruit and hire a new HC. From my understanding, that wasn't necessarily common practice in that district, but every situation is probably unique.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2021 10:46:41 GMT -6
A former teacher, and not just student teaching, but as teacher of record.
Somebody who supports athletics.
A buisiness sense.
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 19, 2021 16:33:47 GMT -6
Someone who isn't a self interested, back stabbing, lying POS.
But, those don't exist as supers, so.. .
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Post by kylem56 on Apr 19, 2021 18:31:21 GMT -6
not a politician, isnt afraid to stand up for his employees, down to earth
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Post by agap on Apr 19, 2021 20:44:58 GMT -6
Division 3 hockey. That's all I talk about with our current superintendent.
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Post by carookie on Apr 19, 2021 20:54:31 GMT -6
1) consistent academic belief system- I dont want a super who is going to be chasing every academic fad and forcing evey coach who is a teacher to spend hours of training and in meetings wasting away.
2) a support and understanding of athletics- we are here to help these young men grow through athletics. Dont try and change it into something else.
3) support of quality educators- dint just leave it to the union
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Post by tog on Apr 20, 2021 7:03:57 GMT -6
Someone who isn't a self interested, back stabbing, lying POS. But, those don't exist as supers, so.. . I was trying to figure out what to sayyy and read this.... |
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 20, 2021 7:30:21 GMT -6
Supers are the kind of people who will cut an average schmuck's job because "there's not enough money for them" and then negotiate a 30k raise for themselves in the same board meeting.
I mean, not that I've ever seen that done...
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Post by CS on Apr 20, 2021 8:21:37 GMT -6
Supers are the kind of people who will cut an average schmuck's job because "there's not enough money for them" and then negotiate a 30k raise for themselves in the same board meeting. I mean, not that I've ever seen that done... I will preface my statement with the fact that I trust no administrator at all. However, we are replacing a good super. He was an old coach and he got it. There were things that I didn't agree with, obviously, but he was a good dude. I just don't want him replaced with a sports don't matter test Nazi that doesn't understand the value of athletics |
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Post by coachcb on Apr 20, 2021 9:30:13 GMT -6
1. Support for athletics and coaches. Understand the importance of extra-curricular activities for student well-being.
2. Respect for the hierarchy. They're the top man on the totem pole and should only be dealing with the most serious of situations.
3. Consistency across the board. When a good policy is in place, stick with it. If there's issues with a policy either change it or scrap it.
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Post by wolverine55 on Apr 20, 2021 9:41:13 GMT -6
1. Support for athletics and coaches. Understand the importance of extra-curricular activities for student well-being. 2. Respect for the hierarchy. They're the top man on the totem pole and should only be dealing with the most serious of situations. 3. Consistency across the board. When a good policy is in place, stick with it. If there's issues with a policy either change it or scrap it. #2 especially. I've worked in my current district for 9 years now (one year as a coach only and now this is my 8th as a teacher and coach) and it absolutely astounds me what some people take to the superintendent. |
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Apr 20, 2021 9:51:13 GMT -6
1. One who understands and cares about the best interests of our community
2. One that can set aside personal beliefs and use logic when decision making
3. One that understands the potential of a district to impact the overall well-being of the students
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Post by tog on Apr 20, 2021 9:58:19 GMT -6
ask if they have had the surgeries
testicle removal
spine removal
if they have had either of those---bad news
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Post by coachcb on Apr 20, 2021 10:52:26 GMT -6
1. Support for athletics and coaches. Understand the importance of extra-curricular activities for student well-being. 2. Respect for the hierarchy. They're the top man on the totem pole and should only be dealing with the most serious of situations. 3. Consistency across the board. When a good policy is in place, stick with it. If there's issues with a policy either change it or scrap it. #2 especially. I've worked in my current district for 9 years now (one year as a coach only and now this is my 8th as a teacher and coach) and it absolutely astounds me what some people take to the superintendent.
I haven't found this issue in larger schools but it can be prevalent in smaller ones. I've been in AD and HC roles where the superintendent was the first person to discuss a player or coach situation with me; quite frustrating. To make matters worse, the problems has compounded and become more difficult to address because the chain of command hadn't been followed.
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Post by coachd5085 on Apr 20, 2021 10:54:20 GMT -6
I am curious how many schools the superintendent overseas in many of the districts represented by the posters above. Our superintendent overseas 57 schools, eight of them being high schools. In the 15 years I’ve been here I don’t think they have ever been involved in athletics at all. Not negatively or positively. I fully admit there is the possibility that I am simply unaware of any type of involvement
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Post by CS on Apr 20, 2021 10:59:21 GMT -6
I am curious how many schools the superintendent overseas in many of the districts represented by the posters above. Our superintendent overseas 57 schools, eight of them being high schools. In the 15 years I’ve been here I don’t think they have ever been involved in athletics at all. Not negatively or positively. I fully admit there is the possibility that I am simply unaware of any type of involvement Most school districts here have their own super. The Little Rock school district is the only one I’m aware of that has 1 super over multiple schools |
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Post by wolverine55 on Apr 20, 2021 12:20:17 GMT -6
This situation is an outlier, but I worked at a high school in Illinois where the high school and elementary systems were two different districts. So, at just the high school, which was 1600 kids, we had a superintendent, a principal, 4 assistant principals, and an athletic director.
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Post by blb on Apr 20, 2021 13:34:55 GMT -6
Most HS administrators are only interested in keeping the job they have currently, or getting to the next one.
Coaches do not help them do that.
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 20, 2021 13:45:45 GMT -6
ask if they have had the surgeries testicle removal spine removal if they have had either of those---bad news I think that's a requirement to move from your masters in ed administration to the Super program these days. |
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 20, 2021 13:49:05 GMT -6
This situation is an outlier, but I worked at a high school in Illinois where the high school and elementary systems were two different districts. So, at just the high school, which was 1600 kids, we had a superintendent, a principal, 4 assistant principals, and an athletic director. I worked at a school that had 800 kids, a super, principal, assistant principal, special education administrator and athletic director. They made a combined $500,000+. |
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 20, 2021 13:51:44 GMT -6
Supers are the kind of people who will cut an average schmuck's job because "there's not enough money for them" and then negotiate a 30k raise for themselves in the same board meeting. I mean, not that I've ever seen that done... I will preface my statement with the fact that I trust no administrator at all. However, we are replacing a good super. He was an old coach and he got it. There were things that I didn't agree with, obviously, but he was a good dude. I just don't want him replaced with a sports don't matter test Nazi that doesn't understand the value of athletics I will admit there are some good ones. Or used to be. They're going the way of the dino though as the old school group retires. The people being attracted to that job currently are just plainly despicable human beings. |
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Post by fantom on Apr 20, 2021 14:48:11 GMT -6
not a politician, isnt afraid to stand up for his employees, down to earth So, a unicorn. |
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Post by jg78 on Apr 20, 2021 18:35:30 GMT -6
Most HS administrators are only interested in keeping the job they have currently, or getting to the next one. Coaches do not help them do that. Especially if you're not their hire. Admins are less likely to defend someone they didn't bring in themselves. If Principal Smith comes in and Coach Jones is struggling (for reasons that may or may not be his fault) and a few parents complain, it's no skin off his nose to let you go. |
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Post by freezeoption on Apr 20, 2021 19:45:28 GMT -6
I know of some really bad supers. The worst was one that threatened firing coaches if he didn't play their kids. Also getting rid of coaches so he could coach their teams.
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Post by carookie on Apr 20, 2021 20:28:18 GMT -6
I am curious how many schools the superintendent overseas in many of the districts represented by the posters above. Our superintendent overseas 57 schools, eight of them being high schools. In the 15 years I’ve been here I don’t think they have ever been involved in athletics at all. Not negatively or positively. I fully admit there is the possibility that I am simply unaware of any type of involvement Most school districts here have their own super. The Little Rock school district is the only one I’m aware of that has 1 super over multiple schools Are you writing that most HS have their own superintendent? Thats interesting, its very different from places I have been, where most districts have 4-8 HS within the district & the superintendent oversees them all. |
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Post by fantom on Apr 20, 2021 20:35:46 GMT -6
I am curious how many schools the superintendent overseas in many of the districts represented by the posters above. Our superintendent overseas 57 schools, eight of them being high schools. In the 15 years I’ve been here I don’t think they have ever been involved in athletics at all. Not negatively or positively. I fully admit there is the possibility that I am simply unaware of any type of involvement My experience is similar. The districts were I worked had four HSs. Some supers had more interest in athletics than others but I don't know that any interfered in any way. |
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Post by rsmith627 on Apr 21, 2021 5:55:04 GMT -6
not a politician, isnt afraid to stand up for his employees, down to earth Probably not going to find that. I've had principals that way though. |
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Post by CS on Apr 21, 2021 6:00:44 GMT -6
Most school districts here have their own super. The Little Rock school district is the only one I’m aware of that has 1 super over multiple schools Are you writing that most HS have their own superintendent? Thats interesting, its very different from places I have been, where most districts have 4-8 HS within the district & the superintendent oversees them all. Rural state. Our districts are pretty spread out. Pretty much every HS in the state has its own super. |
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Post by freezeoption on Apr 21, 2021 8:37:35 GMT -6
You mean every district. Some districts are large here with 5 or 6 high schools and countless middle and elementary schools. Then we have a district that only has about 40 kids k-12.
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